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TCU's Gary Patterson not contacted by Michigan

Posted on: January 5, 2011 11:55 pm

Gary Patterson had not been contacted by Michigan for its opening as of Wednesday night according to a source close to the TCU coach.

Patterson, fresh off a 13-0 season and Rose Bowl win, is thought to be a candidate for the job left open after the firing of Rich Rodriguez by AD Dave Brandon. Brandon said earlier Wednesday he expects to move quickly to fill the vacancy but arguably the hottest coach in the country had not gotten a call 12 hours after Rodriguez had been let go.

Is it too early to speculate? Not with recruiting hanging in the balance. Brandon also said Wednesday that this weekend's recruiting visits would be shuffled as the coaching search takes priority. Patterson has not publicly expressed interest but it is assumed he would listen to Michigan if it called.

The debate rages whether Brandon should hire a so-called "Michigan Man" or the best coach available. Patterson, 50, fits the latter category. In 10 seasons, Patterson has won 98 games at TCU and is seen as the main reason why the school was invited to join the Big East beginning in 2012.

San Diego State's Brady Hoke and LSU's Les Miles -- two coaches with Michigan ties -- seem to be the leading candidates. If Brandon prefers to go off the reservation he could pursue Patterson, a defensive mastermind who has assembled the nation's No. 1 defense each of the last three seasons. Brandon said BCS conference experience would not be a required seemingly opening the door for Hoke and Patterson.

Brandon said earlier Wednesday that he has a "dynamic list" of candidates.


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Since: Nov 21, 2006
Posted on: January 6, 2011 7:04 pm

TCU's Gary Patterson not contacted by Michigan

dont even go there about "plenty" of michigan  people come to ohio state.  that is just plain untrue.  yes a few have crossed but they are few and far in between.  and everyone knows that michigan is the part of ohio no one wanted

Since: Jan 16, 2007
Posted on: January 6, 2011 4:20 pm

TCU's Gary Patterson not contacted by Michigan

I think it's safe to say that in the Big Ten, the strongest defense gives you the best chance to win the Big Ten title. With Rodriguez's offensive system was starting to finally click, it was no where near where it was in his 3rd year at West Virginia. And the fact that he spent little time snagging bigtime defensive prospects alarmed me. Seeing 35 points a game being dropped on Michigan per game was enough to make my eyes bleed. I think Patterson would be a great fit. I hate comparing U of M to OSU, but when they hired Tressell, who was not the sexy pick the fans wanted, the fans were left scratching their heads. Instead of going after the Les Miles' of the game, we should go with a guy we need to bring Michigan back to glory. No offense to Miles, he is a good coach, but his game management is suspect and he never seems to get 100% out of his players. I won't be upset in the least if Michigan hires Patterson, it will be nice to see a top 10 defense in Ann Arbor again!

Since: Jan 3, 2011
Posted on: January 6, 2011 4:04 pm

TCU's Gary Patterson not contacted by Michigan

Moneybags, there aren't a ton of 5-star recruits to go around, which is why landing them is big news.  Also, the player-ranking business is a tricky one and not one I put much stock in, quite frankly.  If you look purely at recruits, James Madison should never beat Virginia Tech, App St should never beat Michigan, TCU should never beat Wisconsin.  So how does it happen?

Some kids have superior talent and some kids have superior talent for your system.  You have to target the kids that are best for what you're trying to do - some years that may lead you to sign a ton of 3-star players, but they might be outstanding prospects for your system.  The consensus is you had a crummy recruiting year, but then maybe you win a national championship 3 years down the road and everyone's like "How did they do that?"  Another variable is academics.  A 5 star kid is no good if you can't get him on the field.  
So some 3 and 4 stars end up wih 5 star careers and maybe some 5 stars have 2 star careers.  It's like taking Ryan Leaf at #2 overall v. Tom Brady at #199 overall.  You never know.

Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: January 6, 2011 3:15 pm

TCU's Gary Patterson not contacted by Michigan

And wow...I never thought we had that good of recruiting those last couple years.  I mean with what I watched on the field, I am very flabbergasted. 

Here is one thing that stands out...since 2008, only 1 "5 star" athlete has come to Michigan. 

Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: January 6, 2011 3:12 pm

TCU's Gary Patterson not contacted by Michigan

I don't know...Brandon sounded really good answering questions yesterday, very smooth in all his answers.  Not to can you say "Brandon isn't as good as a business man as he thinks he is.."??  He has had the job only a short time...and the jobs he had before U of M...were all EXTREMELY successful. 

Since: Jan 3, 2011
Posted on: January 6, 2011 1:35 pm

TCU's Gary Patterson not contacted by Michigan

Here are the 2009 rankings that I was referring to.  OSU #1 (#3 overall) , UofM #2 (#8 overall) in B10.


RR was signing up the kids, no doubt about it.

Since: Jan 3, 2011
Posted on: January 6, 2011 1:25 pm

TCU's Gary Patterson not contacted by Michigan

First of all, let's all thank GOD for little brother MSU.  Michigan's unranked team was smoked on Jan 1, but to be ranked #7 and get burnt to a crisp like MSU did, well, that's just truly more embarrassing. 

Here's my source on the 2010 class and I did make a mistake - Penn St was #1 that year, not OSU:



Since: Oct 21, 2006
Posted on: January 6, 2011 1:14 pm

TCU's Gary Patterson not contacted by Michigan

Facerake Rich Rod didnt have the second best recruiting class in the big ten.  Where did you get that load of crap from? 

Michigan State has been in the top 50 the last 3 seasons and Michigan hasnt.  That means Michigan State is also above Michigan and Penn State plus Wisconsin have been above Michigan State.

Rich Rod has had the 5th (at best) recruiting class in the big ten.

Since: Jan 3, 2011
Posted on: January 6, 2011 1:02 pm

TCU's Gary Patterson not contacted by Michigan

Moneybags, RR had the second ranked recruiting classes in the B10 in each of the last two years (behind OSU, of course).  Granted, there were a couple of blips, but overall, he was out-recruiting almost the entire B10.  

I'm not trying to say he was the right guy.  I don't know if he was and I'll never know now.  I only defend RR because he was not given enough time.  We, the fans, were denied the opportunity to see what his kids could have done with full seasoning.  So we will now nosedive back into the abyss and hope that some miraculous "Michigan Man" comes back to rebuild a program set 5 years in reverse by Brandon's loopy thought process.  To say there was no progress under RR is a lie.  To expect him to win the B10 with freshman and sophomores is a joke.  To fire him at this point, this late in the recruiting season, is a disaster.

A regime change in college football ALWAYS naturally leads to defections.  Players want to play for the guy who recruited them and when that guy leaves, they go home (or to the NFL).  If systems and philosophies change, that also leads to defections just because you have to get the right personnel in place.  Part of the reason Carr "retired" was because he wasn't recruiting well anymore.  RR took a shot at Carr when he came in saying something to the effect "Our last couple of Februarys were not that good and we have to do better."  In the end, Carr was not recruiting with the energy and persuasiveness that are necessary to be successful.  He was riding the Henne, Long, Manningham era out the door.

Brandon is not as good a businessman as he thinks.  He saved them $1.5m by waiting to fire RR, but they just spent $230m (!!) to redo the Big House, which is more than enough to build a modern stadium.  With potentially another 3-5 years of losing and mediocrity on the horizon and several more Ohio State ass kickings to look forward to, he should be wondering if they'll still be filling all those shiny new seats.  RR gave them the best chance to win now.  Oh well...

Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: January 6, 2011 12:37 pm

TCU's Gary Patterson not contacted by Michigan

FACERAKE.....absolutely not true about Mallett.  Mallett loved Michigan, and he loved Ann Arbor.  But he was very upset when Carr stepped down, thinking Carr should have been his coach all the way through since he was the one who recruited him.  And when Mallett heard the spread offense was coming to Michigan, he knew he had to leave. 

RR is a bit of a joke.  Seriously, he is.  He was good in WV because the conference isn't that hard nor the competition.  Not to mention, he has been a bit of a joke with recruiting also.  Michigan has been outside the top 20 almost every year in recruiting since RR came aboard. 

End of the day, Rich Rod wasn't the right coach for a Big 10 position.  Same with the SEC, Rich Rod would suck there also because you need to recruit top defenders.   Rich Rod will be better off in the Big East, the MAC, or the ACC.

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