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Baylor's Jones declared ineligible, another Cam?

Posted on: March 9, 2011 10:29 pm
KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Cam Newton meet Perry Jones III?

Baylor's second-leading scorer was declared ineligible Wednesday for sort of the same reason that Auburn's quarterback went free last year. The NCAA ruled that Jones' mother accepted three, 15-day loans from Jones' AAU coach while the player was still in high school. Baylor said Jones had no knowledge of the loans. 

Sound familiar? Newton was allowed to keep playing in December after the NCAA ruled that the player had no knowledge of his father's solicitation of money from Mississippi State. Baylor said the loans were repaid in a "timely manner." If you want to make a comparison, the difference in this case is that money actually changed hands.  

"This outcome appears to be inconsistent with other recent, widely discussed NCAA decisions," Baylor AD Ian McCaw said.

Baylor officials could barely conceal their disgust. After dealing with this situation since December, they were upset that the ruling came out on the same day of the opening of the Big 12 tournament. McCaw said the school found out about the ruling at about noon, approximately six hours before Wednesday's tip off with Oklahoma. The Bears, 18-13, then officially slid off the NCAA tournament bubble, losing to the Sooners, 84-67.

"I hope no one ever has to go through what we had to go through the last six hours," coach Scott Drew said.

"It's like somebody coming into your house and punching your little brother," teammate Quincy Acy said. 

Baylor is appealing the case. Regardless, Jones' next stop is most likely the NIT or the NBA. If is not reinstated at Baylor, Jones already is considered a top-five NBA draft choice after one season in college. The 6-foot-11 freshman from Duncanville, Texas averaged 13.9 points and was the Bears' second-leading rebounder (7.2). He was Drew's highest-rated recruit having been rated a top-10 prospect by MaxPreps.  

The NCAA is cracking down on third-party influence in both football and basketball recruiting. Baylor contends that Jones had a relationship with his AAU coach since at least the sixth grade. The AAU coach also paid for Jones to go an NFL preseason game in San Diego, according to the school. 

Jones was a finalist for the Wayman Tisdale Award, given to the nation's top freshman.
Category: NCAAB
Tags: Baylor, NBA, NCAA, NIT, Oklahoma

Since: Mar 6, 2009
Posted on: March 10, 2011 3:16 pm

Baylor's Jones declared ineligible, another Cam?

Jack_Sprat is my hero.  Couldn't have said anything better than that.

Is this a joke? That was the craziest nonsense I have read in a long time.

NCAA should be ashamed.

Since: Feb 24, 2007
Posted on: March 10, 2011 3:16 pm

Baylor's Jones declared ineligible, another Cam?

Paraphrasing Jack_Sprat:

He is shocked by those who believe in a basic sense of fair play and perversely blames it on the masses being fooled by an upper-class ideology.


He believes most minorities have no chance, so they HAVE to use sports to climb out of the ghetto because the American Dream is not meant for them.

He is appears to envy those with money...which he claims to detest.

He thinks poor kids "give more” because they are poor...really...studying ACADEMICS two three hours a night is easy as opposed to playing a F****NG GAME?

He uses "the playing fields of Eaton" as a symbol of rich-elitism awash in Pollyanna ignorance toward the plight of the poor.

He thinks we are all fooled by RICH people??? He thinks those that demand others play by the rules do so out of ENVY???

PLEASE, if I missed interpreted this essay, correct this bourgeois.



Since: Nov 10, 2006
Posted on: March 10, 2011 9:21 am

Baylor's Jones declared ineligible, another Cam?

Jack_Sprat is my hero.  Couldn't have said anything better than that.

Since: Dec 1, 2009
Posted on: March 10, 2011 5:56 am

Baylor's Jones declared ineligible, another Cam?

Let me state up front that I competed when steroids were still just a rumor sent back by former schoolmates who'd moved to southern California in the late 1960's. Further, no one about who I've ever had a personal interest has played anything other than midget soccer or golf. 
That said, I am alternately both amused and appalled by the eager willfulness with which so many of you are prepared to indulge thinly-disguised, superannuated upper-class nonsense about "amateurism" and "fair play" in big-time sports. Not a single (mentally stable) working class son would ever forego his (and his family's) only legitimate shot at raising his (and their) place in life for the empty, elitist lies that the monied classes tell one another about the roots of their own successes and privileged positions in the world. 
There are reasons why most of the money sports are dominated by kids who grew up in struggling families. Internalized shame and anger at the common humiliations of life towards the bottom are splendid motivators. People look at the domination of the NBA and NFL by blacks and MLB by foreign-born Hispanics and they invent racial myths to explain them. Black people are "physically superior" at "those sports", "white men can't jump", black kids "learn" to get fast "running from cops", "la Raza" are part of a superior culture that is immune from the failings of Norte society. (Odd that it's MEXICO that was ruled within the lifetimes of most Americans by a man who murdered his nanny when he was only eight years old, just so that he could prove to himself his rightful place in HIS society. How right he was; let Warren Buffett try and construct a life with that base in Omaha, Nebraska!) 
Kids get faster and stronger and quicker and "hoppier" by busting their ***. They give more, every day of their lives, for years and years, most of them. So, yeah, they'll "cut corners" and "cheat." Because it's not a FU**ING GAME  to those who are engaged in the struggle. It's their d*** LIFE!!!! Kindly confine your patrician notions about "cheating" and amateurism to "the playing fields of Eaton." The rest of us aren't destined to rule Empire "for King and Country." 
As for those of you who aren't Koch brothers or "Lords of the Universe," please gouge out your green eyes. Envy, jealousy, and spite are just misdirected self-contempt. Get help, I beg you. Before God makes you upchuck at the viewing of your own cramped soul's life.

Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: March 10, 2011 2:28 am

Baylor's Jones declared ineligible, another Cam?

Alberto Contador. He was found doping in the last year's Tour de France but race officials did not boot his cheating butt. Later it was proven that he did indeed have drugs that should not be in his body. His lame excuse was that he got drunk and ate some bad beef. Later he said that he had drank some contaminated milk that his wife had prepared for his baby. If Lance Armstrong was found with irregular drug levels during the Tour de France he would have been tarred and feathered right away. My point is why have rules when they do not equally apply to everyone. If Reggie Bush and USC had to pay for their "loan" mistakes then how come Cam Newton and Auburn did not. And now we see that Baylor and Jones are going to get punished. I wonder what dirt the SEC has on the NCAA because the SEC always seems to get away from harsh punishments. If you think I'm wrong then provide statements to support it and you might just convince me to see your viewpoint. I don't want to hear "SEC is the best. Go blank yourself" If that's the best you can some up with then apparently a degree from an SEC college isn't as valuable as one from any junior college.

Since: Jan 21, 2010
Posted on: March 10, 2011 12:39 am

Baylor's Jones declared ineligible, another Cam?

The NCAA is a joke, and a lousy one at that.

Since: Nov 4, 2007
Posted on: March 10, 2011 12:36 am

Baylor's Jones declared ineligible, another Cam?

The double standards that go on with the NCAA rulings are just sickening.   I don't have a gripe with the suspension of this kid because of the infraction created by his parent, I have a problem with all the other situations from the power programs that are ignored, get a bye or a slap on the wrist when their infractions come to light.

Since: Apr 9, 2007
Posted on: March 10, 2011 12:31 am

Baylor's Jones declared ineligible, another Cam?

I would go further...The players mom took out a loan and paid it off like any other loan so what is the deal.  She didnt shop her sons BB services to the top high school.  Then compare it with Cam who's dad did shop his services in clear violation of the NCAA rules and NOTHING happens.  The NCAA should be removed and an organization that is consistent placed in the NCAA governing board's place

Since: Dec 20, 2009
Posted on: March 10, 2011 12:08 am

Baylor's Jones declared ineligible, another Cam?

Good article - you could also bring up violations at Ohio State where students violated NCAA rules while in college but were allowed to still play in a BCS bowl.  

This story is absolutely insane compared to Auburn's Newton and Ohio State.  Perry Jones was in high school while his AAU coach handed out 3 micro loans totaling less than $1000 and were all repaid within 15 days.  The coach also was friends with the family since 6th grade.  Perry Jones wasn't even involved.  
My question:   How on earth can a high school athlete or his parents, friends, coaches know what is or isn't an NCAA violation?  To do this the day of the Big 12 tournament was a statements towards all teams or someone in the NCAA has it out for Baylor.   This is about as insane a story as I've seen in my lifetime in college athletics.   I used to be a big fan of basketball, but the more I see of what the NCAA is doing (or not doing) it makes me not be a fan anymore.  

Since: Apr 12, 2008
Posted on: March 9, 2011 10:31 pm

Baylor's Jones declared ineligible, another Cam?

Don't try to make sense of NCAA decisions Dodd.  They make no sense.  Hack jobs, we would call them.

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