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Is this it for Jim Tressel?

Posted on: March 25, 2011 12:02 pm
Edited on: March 25, 2011 5:39 pm
ANAHEIM, Calif. -- Gene Smith is supposed to be here in Anaheim on Saturday. As chairman of the men's basketball committee, it is his duty to make the rounds during the NCAA tournament.

Arizona and UConn play Saturday for the right to go to the Final Four. Don't keep a seat warm for Smith. He is also Ohio State's athletic director, which makes him a bit preoccupied these days.

Friday's revelation  that Jim Tressel forwarded emails to a mentor of quarterback Terrelle Pryor might be the deal-breaker for the Buckeyes coach. Remember, these are the emails that he wouldn't share with his superiors because Tressel was worried about "privacy" issues.

Apparently the emails weren't sensitive enough to keep from a 67-year-old owner of a Jeanette, Pa., glass company. It's hard to envision Tressel lasting any longer as this coverup builds. It's only a matter of time and definition -- when the coach will leave and what it will be called. Firing? Resignation? It doesn't really matter at this point.

Here's why Friday's news is so damning: If you remember at the March 8 press conference, Tressel was asked by Yahoo! Sports' Dan Wetzel if the coach had shared the emails with anyone else. As Tressel started to say yes, Smith intervened saying that couldn't be discussed, that there was an ongoing investigation.

Reminds us once again that the cover up is always worse than the crime.

This particular situation doesn't necessarily reflect badly on Pryor or Ted Sarniak, who was well known during the quarterback's recruiting process as a mentor. It was to the point, according to a source, that recruiters were dealing with Sarniak more than his high school coach. I was in Jeanette during that recruiting process and went to interview Sarniak at his Jeanette Glass Company offices. It was unannounced because I couldn't track him down on the phone. I was never able to find him.

The school vetted the relationship between Pryor and Sarniak, according to the Columbus Dispatch .

"He's [Sarniak] not a bad guy and he's got money," a person close to Pryor told me. "I don't think he did it [mentored Pryor] for the money."

This is more about Tressel. On the surface, he not only withheld information regarding -- let's not forget -- a federal investigation from his superiors. He also went off the reservation in sharing the emails with a person outside the university. Not even a parent -- a "mentor." Let's be clear: A glass company owner in western Pennsylvania apparently knew Pryor's name had popped up during a federal investigation before Ohio State's president or athletic director.

Poor Gene Smith. His basketball team is driving for the Final Four. That Final Four is a week away and Smith is in charge of it, the NCAA's top moneymaker. But those issues probably aren't in the top five in his mental Rolodex at the moment. We'll know for sure if there is an empty seat at courtside Saturday at the Honda Center. 


Since: Apr 22, 2009
Posted on: March 28, 2011 12:51 pm

Is this it for Jim Tressel?

((TPCoach Tressel is a good man and the players did not make millions or even thousands (TP, the most) (Heron did sell a uniform) but why Coach Tressel should resign is because he FORWARDED the emails to the mentor.  If he thought it would be in the best interest of TP's mentor to know he should have informed the AD or complaince officer.  Love Coach Tressel and Go BUCKEYES!

Since: Dec 2, 2009
Posted on: March 28, 2011 12:45 pm

Is this it for Jim Tressel?

While there is value in what you say friend, lets face it that is not the world we live in.  Alums put a premium on winning and pay big bucks for that to happen.  With that comes a huge pressure to win.  As such you get...this....Whether its Alabama, Florida, USC, Auburn, Oklahoma, or Ohio State it doesn't matter.  Until a LARGE majority of fans think like what you have stated, it will not change.  So accept it for what it is, this is the price we all pay when we all want our teams to win, just don't tell us about the crap you have to do to accomplish that goal, just win and oh, don't get caught!  What we are seeing in big time collegiate athletics is just a reflection of our current society.  Which why I get upset when people are SUDDENLY indigant and calls for Tressel to be fired.  People like Dodd are part of the problem (as am I as I watch and cheer for the likes of Ohio State). 

Since: Mar 28, 2011
Posted on: March 28, 2011 12:31 pm

Is this it for Jim Tressel?

Yeah, but sure as shootin' someone from ESPN will ask "Dr. Lou" about this ... wait a minute, it's ESPN. Someone won't. Schools are just kidding themselves when they try to hide wrongs and their fans try to make an excuse for them. Personally, I want my alma mater to recruit good student-athletes to give them a chance at an education, to make sure that they progress as student-athletes, and if they somehow or sometime are able to win a conference championship or a national one that makes his proud, great. The true greatness will come 20, 30, 40 years down the line when these student-athletes make their contribution to this being a better world for all. Continue recruiting the bad student-athletes, the ones with their hands out or in the cookie jar, the ones who ultimately will embarrass my university, well, there's the door, Coach, and forget about the reference.

Since: Dec 2, 2009
Posted on: March 28, 2011 12:22 pm

Is this it for Jim Tressel?

While I will not support Gee for his shortsighted comments regarding the little sisters of the poor, think about what it was, he was simply trying to paint his university as more deserving than others.  While a very poor choice of words on his part would you expect him to do any less?  He's paid his price in the form of negative publicity for his stupidity.  He isn't the first nor will he be the last to say something dumb.  All should let it go, sheesh. 

Damage.....I dunno.  I think Coach T should just say what he is no doubt probably thinking.  Look, my guys did something they shouldn't have done, they broke well known rules.  However people lets keep some perspective here.  They weren't selling crack, throwing games, raping girls, or even driving drunk.  They simply traded in on their local fame for some local favors.  Not the first time this has taken place, nor probably the last.  Something that happens beginning in middle school all the way through college.  When it was brought to my attention and knowing the firestorm it would create (as he slowly scans a stadium full of reporters) I nipped it in the bud (assuming of course he did) putting a quick end to what was taking place.  I made the decision then to let it go KNOWING the punishment doesn't fit the crime in this case.  However, I understand I also made a conscience choice to break the rules and must accept the consequences of getting caught red handed.  My fate is to be decided by the appropriate governing bodies beginning with the NCAA and The Ohio State University.  As for the press (especially the press) and the non-Ohio State public, you can kiss my scarlet and gray puckered starfish! 

This story has been taken further than necessary.  Let the NCAA investigate til their heart is content, if they uncover additional violations at Ohio State then the university needs to pay the price.  BUT based on what we know right now, talk like Tressel losing his job is moronic.  Surely people can see this for what it really is and feel sympathetic towards what the player's did and the follow up action by the coach.  Not saying anybody was right in light of current rules, but surely it doesn't deserve this level of vitriol?

Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: March 28, 2011 12:06 pm

Is this it for Jim Tressel?

First let me say that I'm a Canes fan first and foremost and I'm lived most of my life in Michigan so I really like the Wolverines.  Both are reasons to hate the Buckheads.  That said, I've wished for years that Tressel was anywhere else but where he was (well, maybe not Notre Dung) so I could root for his program because I always thought he was one of the good guys.  It's a little depressing to find out yet again that this sport that I love is nothing more than a very dirty business where even the good guys are only a facade.  Success in this game is proving to be only accomplished by those willing to bend or break the rules.  There are good guys who don't break the rules but they don't seem to be in major programs or if they are, they don't last.  The almighty dollar is all that matters.

Whether Tressel survives this incident and rides out the NCAA hammering (a la USC) or whether he's gone is yet to be played out but I long for the days when I still believed this was just a college sport.

Since: Jan 16, 2010
Posted on: March 28, 2011 11:51 am

Is this it for Jim Tressel?

Yeah I think Holtz had some issues and you can include his time at NC State. Last I checked hes been out of the game for over 7 years so whats the point? Im sure Woddy, Bo, and Knute might have sent an illegal message in Morse code, last I checked they dont coach anymore in fact they arent even alive. This has nothing to do with the other 119 coaches on the D1 level they are not under NCAA investigarion Tressel is.

Since: Mar 28, 2011
Posted on: March 28, 2011 11:19 am

Is this it for Jim Tressel?

Someone should ask Notre Dame and one of its May honorary degree recipients, "Dr. Lou" Holtz, if they think Jim Tressel should be fired. Isn't there some NCAA violation in Notre Dame's past when Holtz was the coach there? As there are at other programs he left like Minnesota and South Carolina? Hmmmm.

Since: Jan 16, 2010
Posted on: March 28, 2011 10:41 am

Is this it for Jim Tressel?

Hoff and Gorillia Thanks for your point of view you seem to almost accept the fact that OSU did wrong and perhaps deserves what it has coming. IMO Im surprised more have not been piling on. When Gee came out and threw every non BCS program under the bus while defending the power conferences was uncalled for.

Lets face it other than OSU, The Big 10, ACC, and Big East have been less than stellar on the field. This has given a shot for the Boises, Utah, TCU, Nevada and others to step forword and fill the void while these conferences struggle. We see if given a shot these programs can play given the chance. Just take a look at VCU, Butler and George Mason, in basketball. We had TCU beating the Big 10 champion and Boise beating the ACC champ. Yet we have Gee out front leading the cheers against these programs because they might want to cut into the huge payday.

Mr Gee is responsible for running a university not a cash cow athletic program he hired Smith for that.  If he wishes to continue to hoard 87% of the revenues for himself then send the AD out there to make the case not the guy who should be standing up for education.

Mr Gee had a chance to stand up to the NCAA and try to change some of the silly rules and perhaps make the case for players to be payed. Now that the program was caught in multiable lies and coverup he has no credability with the NCAA. After he threw every non BCS school under the bus Im surprised these programs are not in Columbus with pitchforks and torches demanding his ouster. 

Weather these guys stay or go the damage has been done. The best defense they can come up with is were not as dirty as the SEC which is no defense at all. Everything done here was about the money and it will be the money that will drive the solution to this issue. Both Gee and Smith made a huge mistake coming out and defending Tressel before all the facts were on the table. Now they look more foolish then he does. If all 3 stay the program will be tarnished for the next decade and the University would have made a clear statement that its all about the W's and the Green they are just as dirty and corrupt as the rest.

Since: Dec 31, 2010
Posted on: March 28, 2011 2:22 am

This it for Jim Tressel!

Look we deserve the rocks thrown at us until we deal with it.  tOSU will be measered on how we respond.  We have thrown plenty of rocks at Michigone and the SEC.  We can takse some lumps.

This started out about players selling memorabilia for tatoos and favors.  They got spanked hard; but, so did AJ Green.  Give us a good platform to argue that the NCAA needs to dole out some monthly money for all student athletes under their perview.

It has now turned into a cover up by our Head Coach, playing ineligible players, lieing to the NCAA.  Not just accusations, the proof provided seems to back it all up.

Penalties:  A coach knowly playing ineligible players (all those games myust be forfieted) Basically our entire season is forfieted, Michigan gets their win, we give up the Sugar Bowl victory (and we still wouldn't have beat an SEC team in a BCS Bowl).  Then the NCAA gets to really sling the sludge hammer, to set an example to the next program.  I'm just hoping that Tressel is gone this week, the longer he stays the worse it looks on us.

We need to give the impression that it's not the way tOSU play ball.  I don't want the NCAA looking at Tennesse who fired an extremely popular coach for covering up somethign he did and then the NCAA looking at tOSU that we tried to cover up the fact we knew about the broken rules and didn't do anything and lied that we knew about it.

No way he can survive. 

Get off the press, Major College Football/Basketall is nothing more than a giant soap opera.  We would all have opinions if this was happening to Whisky, MSU or Michigone. 

Honestly this is BIG news, I just hope it plays out the right way.

Since: Dec 4, 2007
Posted on: March 28, 2011 12:56 am

Is this it for Jim Tressel?

If its tressel's time to go, then so be it (from an OSU fan).

But dont say dumb sh@t about OSU fans ar the most suck up, OSU is holier-than-thou, etc. name - calling is for little kids.

Dont act like players at the school of your favorite team dont do DUMB things. Sometimes REALLY dumb. (FOUR AUBURN PLAYRS BUSTED FOR ARMED ROBBERY, HELLO !)

DONT act like other conferences dont do things to their own competitive advantage (hello again SEC for your over-recruiting, offering more scholarships than you actually have avauilable, so you can cut the excess kids that didnt work out for you). THATS an advantage too.

Sometimes its just the fine print that makes somthing right or wrong. Like maybe selling something that was given to you, but oh wait we gave it to you but its not your because we said so in the fine print.

Much that dose get reported starts with the young players themselves, or fans / boosters trying to worm their way into a program so they can feel like a part of something. Coaches and athletic directors will never be abl to stop that, just try to stamp it out when they do.The VEST didnt make the initial mistake here, players and some jerk trying to get what HE wanted were the ones at fault initially. Tressel doesnt "run a dirty program" , he screwed up after the fact. There is a price to be paid, but there is still a difference between doing something like, for example, offering a kid cash to play for you, as opposed to screwing up how to handle something wrong that the players id on your watch. One is a dirty program, th other is a mistake that will have consequences.

And finally, like all things, its just a chance for the mdia to jump up and down and sound the horns and  creat a big of a buzz as possible, bexuase they HAVE to. They need something to write about. Same as when a coachwins consistently, they priase him and make him out to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. And when he does something wrong, well he must be the damn devil himself.

If the final price is Tress leaving , then so be it...pretty tired of all the insults, misconceptions, and gerneral beating up on OSu

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