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Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

Posted on: April 25, 2011 12:25 pm
Edited on: April 25, 2011 7:02 pm
 

As predicted in this space, the NCAA is fast-tracking the Ohio State/Tressel case, and no matter what happens it looks like Jim Tressel has not coached his last game at Ohio State. If there is any good news to the school getting its notice of allegations from the NCAA, that's it.

The notice comes less than four months after the Buckeye Six (soon to be five) were suspended in late December.

To no one's surprise, Tressel is accused of unethical conduct for hiding those emails and knowingly playing ineligible players. The NCAA says that Ohio State could be treated as a "repeat violator" meaning that technically it is eligible for the death penalty. (Settle down Bucknuts, it won't happen).

It is compelling to finally see in print that the NCAA has officially alleged that Ohio State competed with ineligible players on the field. Beyond Tressel's unethical conduct, that is the essence of the case. USC competed with one ineligible player (Reggie Bush) and look what it got -- a two-year bowl ban and the removal of 30 scholarships over three years.

Using that as example, is it fair to assume that Ohio State will receive similar penalties? If so, it doesn't look like those will impact this season. In other words, Ohio State could compete for the Big Ten and national championship in 2011, less than a year after the school announced the initial player suspensions.

That's the same reason why it seems that Tressel will coach this season. Ohio State will reportedly appear before the NCAA infractions committee on Aug. 12. Typically, penalties follow six to eight weeks after such a meeting. Considering the depth and scope of the case, finalizing this case could take much longer. Tressel already has been suspended for the first five games of the 2011 season. Using UConn basketball coach Jim Calhoun, as an example the NCAA isn't likely to add to the suspension this season.

UConn's penalty came down in the middle of last season. Because of that, Calhoun's three-game suspension was put off until the 2011-2012 season. That makes things even more sketchy at Ohio State. Applying that history, a bowl ban, scholarship reductions, etc., would be put off until 2012 as well.

Then if the NCAA decides to add to Tressel's five-game suspension, does it, say, add on five games at the beginning of the 2012 season? And at that point, does Ohio State figure the hit is too big and take further action on Tressel? Yes, I'm suggesting the f-word. Firing. But not this year. When he is actually on the sideline, the man wins a lot of games.

Are five games enough? On page 5 of the notice (NOA), Ohio State is asked to provide a detailed description of disciplinary actions taken against athletic department officials involved in the inquiry. Specifically, " ... explain the reasons that the institution believes these actions to be appropriate ..."

Will Ohio State be vacating or forfeiting games? The NCAA also asked for the school's win-loss record the last four seasons and the dates and results of postseason competition.

Most damning for Tressel: The NCAA says he had knowledge (through the now-infamous emails) that two players -- Terrelle Pryor and DeVier Posey, though the names are redacted in the notice -- were selling memorabilia to local tattoo-parlor owner Eddie Rife. That means that players competed while ineligible with Tressel's knowledge, a significant violation. Tressel already had signed a document on Sept. 13 saying he was unaware of any wrongdoing. In the NOA, the NCAA has asked for a copy of that form.

Tressel said on March 8 he did not reveal the emails with superiors due to "confidentiality" concerns. However, Tressel did share them with a Jeanette, Pa. businessman Ted Sarniak who has a relationship with Pryor.

Former USC coach Todd McNair was accused of unethical conduct in the Reggie Bush and given a one- year show cause order that essentially did not allow him to work in 2010. He is appealing that ruling separate from USC's appeal of the June penalties.

Columbus Dispatch research showed that since 2006, the NCAA has penalized 28 schools for violating bylaw 10.1 dealing with unethical conduct. There were 13 head coaches involved in those cases. Only one kept his job.

The NCAA did seemingly have a sense of the dramatic. The NOA was delivered to Ohio State president Gordon Gee on Friday, the day before the spring game.

Comments

Since: Apr 26, 2011
Posted on: April 26, 2011 8:16 am
 

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

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Since: Jan 16, 2010
Posted on: April 26, 2011 8:06 am
 

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

What I find funny is how many here want to place blame on the NCAA or the system itself. This is the same system that hands over 87% of the revenues to the so called 6 power conferences while doing all they can to prevent non BCS programs from competing or getting a bigger piece of the pie. One of the biggest defenders of the system was OSU President Gee. I guess the saying goes he who lives by the sword dies bye it.

Lets face it these schools are admitting kids that do not belong on a college campus or could not qualify for admission other than the fact they can run a 4.4 forty. Each morning you see kids under arrest for charges that are far more severe than under age drinking. You see alumni handing over huge sums of cash tp prospects so they can feel speceial on a Saturday afternoon by getting a kid into Auburn rather than Alabama. How much more embarrassment are the Presidents, ADs, and Coaches, and Alumni are willing to put up with in the hopes putting a winning product on the field.

The system is clearly broke if Gee remains President @ OSU maybe its time he stands up for something other than the free flow of money into the OSU vault.



Since: Jun 11, 2009
Posted on: April 26, 2011 7:13 am
 

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

You have to admit, this entire story is NOT your ordinary run of the mill NCAA investigation.  All of Tressel's violations (and YES they were "NCAA" violations) occurred in the midst of an ONGOING federal investigation. An ongoing FEDERAL investigation people...one in which the accused, a tatoo parlor owner named Eddie Rife was facing a possible 10 yr. sentence...for what EXACTLY, i don't know and neither do you or the NCAA. Last time i checked the FEDS do not have an obligation to inform the NCAA about info it aquires involving players or coaches during an ongoing federal investigation...i believe they have more important things to worry about, like the integrity of their case, possible undercover agents etc...who knows?  I don't, you don't (unless you're involved in the case or were on the grand jury) and probably the NCAA doesn't...yet.  I would guess it plausable that Tressel and or Ohio State were specifically told NOT to discuss anything involving said investigation while it was ongoing.  That's not a stretch, that's how these things work.  Can you imagine Mr Rife's reaction, sitting there one day oblivious of any heat, watching TV only to see Jim Tressel or some OSU official or NCAA crony come on discussing this?  You think that might compromise the investigation?  "How the heck do THEY know...and if Ohio St. knows, who else knows?  Oh crap, shut it down boys they're onto us!"  This is a BIG part of this story and I find it interesting that NO ONE is discussing this angle because none of us really feel Tressel being just plain stupid after so many years in this game is any more plausable. 




Since: Jan 1, 2007
Posted on: April 26, 2011 6:33 am
 

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

As a Florida fan, an Ohio State loather, I want Jim Tressel to lose. But not to the NCAA. This incident is not the least horrendous crime committed by a football coach, nor the most. I am sure penance will be paid. But when the dust settles, who will look worse, Jim Tressel or the NCAA? I am not justifying what the coach did, but the NCAA is the epitome of hypocrisy. Superdomes for the final 4.... for money. 34 bowls games....for money. Lucrative TV contracts.... for money. While the NCAA is screaming student-athletes, the student in the athlete is doing "sport" when they probably should be studying. Yes, the money programs of men's basketball and football pay for many other obscure sports, but once again, the student-athlete is playing, instead of studying. So. Who will look the worst when the dust settles? The same one who, IMHO, looks like a farce now. My nickel is riding on the NCAA.....Oooooops. Did I just insinuate gambling? Guess my life is over.



Since: Feb 11, 2009
Posted on: April 26, 2011 3:56 am
 

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?




Since: Jan 3, 2007
Posted on: April 26, 2011 3:36 am
 

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

I really find all this comical.  The fact that everyone, now myself included, has waisted so much time on something so trivial is amusing to me.  I respected what the Alabama fan said in an earlier post as I too have always respected other traditions at schools that people love to hate like Notre Dame, Michigan, etc...so calling for someone's job that has an impeccably clean record in his 10 years is rediculous.  All of those who are calling out Tressel may want to slow down just a bit.  He obviously made a poor decision and deserves to be punished but lets not get carried away here.  I mean seriously, I am not even sure that if every coach knew the rules to the letter of the law would they think that tattoes and some gold pants are an infraction much less report them.  Even more comical that in the midst of this so called scandal the SEC has done its best USC impersonation with all of the HBO coverage of allegations of payments in brown envelops and I am not even referring to the obvious Cam Newton story.   Ya, he had no idea that dear old dad was shopping him.  I like that everyone climbs on these sites to defend their school and call out the ones they don't like when truthfully every big school has at least had a booster or 2 walk that fine line at one point.  The only bigger offenders here than Ohio State players and Tressel is the NCAA who suspend the players but then conveniently allowed them to play in the Sugar Bowl!  Huh??  Funny when money is going into their pocket how their loyalties and values are easy adjusted and comprimised.  Hey NCAA, come down off that moral high horse long enough to take a good look at yourself in the mirror.  The bottom line is that the system is broke and needs fixed or tweeked or whatever your thoughts are on that subject and I have neither the time nor energy to get into that problem right now.  The NCAA may want to quit worrying about players receiving tats and worry more about the kids that are serisouly getting paid to play or at the very least do something constructive like starting to figure out that playoff system.  I mean the thought of settling the National Championship on the field...hmm...what an interesting idea.  



Since: Mar 15, 2011
Posted on: April 26, 2011 2:50 am
 

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

If OSU is forced to forfeit all of last year’s games, I wonder if Michigan might not bring back Rich Rodriguez?



Since: Apr 12, 2008
Posted on: April 26, 2011 2:06 am
 

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

Come on everyone, let's sit back and really consider this. 

First, I was born and raised in Alabama and attended the University of Alabama, graduating in 1984.  Saying I bleed Crimson is quite an understatement.

Like most of you I loath Ohio State.  I can't stand the Big 10.  Boring, slow, and gets mauled everythime a member faces an SEC opponent.

But I do love College football.  Part of my love for it is that I can "hate" Notre Dame, Tennessee and even the way Tressell dresses.  I for one don't want that to go away.  The loathing I feel for Auburn is almost unhealthy.  Yet I don't want them to simply disappear.  I want to see Ohio St lose but with Tressell, not without.

And seriously, I try my best to live a moral and Christian life but rarely does a day go by that I don't do something far worse than Ohio States coach did.  Come on, he lied about an email to protect his players, and his team and therefore the fans and the State of Ohio. I am not condoning his actions, far from it, but the man got 5 games, public humiliation and embarrassment, lets move on.  He is not a Minister, or a Supreme Court judge, he is simply a football coach.

Coach Tressell, I for one wants to see you on the sideline in Game 6, and for years to come.  I would love to see my beloved Bama kick your tail in a not to future National Championship game.

I am really starting to dislike sportswriters
5 stars sir. 

Heck BSU is the "Little Sister of the Poor" in the Buckeye's eyes.  The Sweter Vest annoys me.

At the end of the day I believe Tressel to be a good guy, and he acted to protect his players.

Wrong?  Absolutely yes in the NCAA eyes.  In mine, maybe yes.

But Loyal, absolutely.  And in these days, I almost like Tressell more.  But don't worry I still hate tOSU.



Since: Oct 3, 2006
Posted on: April 26, 2011 1:30 am
 

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

I'm not comparing what OSU did to the problems with arrests at Florida a few years back but why didn't he jump all over Urb when half his team was getting arrested for various crimes? That's right, because he went to Floirda.  

No, he went to Missouri. 



Since: Oct 3, 2006
Posted on: April 26, 2011 1:09 am
 

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

Have you heard the name Cam Newton?  Did you know Cam's story does not start at Auburn?  Did you know some of the things he got away with at FLA? FLA lost him to a higher bidder but man they put up with quite alot I am told from inside sources.  Investigate that.

Oh really?????  

From the NY Times:  "A person briefed on Newton’s situation confirmed Tuesday the that Newton left the after the fall semester in 2008 rather than face suspension or expulsion in part because of instances of academic cheating."

and from wikipedia:  On November 21, 2008, Newton was arrested for alleged theft of a laptop computer from a student at the University of Florida. He was subsequently suspended by the team after the laptop was in fact found to be in his possession.  Newton withdrew from the University of Florida after the Fall 2008 semester.  


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