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Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

Posted on: April 25, 2011 12:25 pm
Edited on: April 25, 2011 7:02 pm

As predicted in this space, the NCAA is fast-tracking the Ohio State/Tressel case, and no matter what happens it looks like Jim Tressel has not coached his last game at Ohio State. If there is any good news to the school getting its notice of allegations from the NCAA, that's it.

The notice comes less than four months after the Buckeye Six (soon to be five) were suspended in late December.

To no one's surprise, Tressel is accused of unethical conduct for hiding those emails and knowingly playing ineligible players. The NCAA says that Ohio State could be treated as a "repeat violator" meaning that technically it is eligible for the death penalty. (Settle down Bucknuts, it won't happen).

It is compelling to finally see in print that the NCAA has officially alleged that Ohio State competed with ineligible players on the field. Beyond Tressel's unethical conduct, that is the essence of the case. USC competed with one ineligible player (Reggie Bush) and look what it got -- a two-year bowl ban and the removal of 30 scholarships over three years.

Using that as example, is it fair to assume that Ohio State will receive similar penalties? If so, it doesn't look like those will impact this season. In other words, Ohio State could compete for the Big Ten and national championship in 2011, less than a year after the school announced the initial player suspensions.

That's the same reason why it seems that Tressel will coach this season. Ohio State will reportedly appear before the NCAA infractions committee on Aug. 12. Typically, penalties follow six to eight weeks after such a meeting. Considering the depth and scope of the case, finalizing this case could take much longer. Tressel already has been suspended for the first five games of the 2011 season. Using UConn basketball coach Jim Calhoun, as an example the NCAA isn't likely to add to the suspension this season.

UConn's penalty came down in the middle of last season. Because of that, Calhoun's three-game suspension was put off until the 2011-2012 season. That makes things even more sketchy at Ohio State. Applying that history, a bowl ban, scholarship reductions, etc., would be put off until 2012 as well.

Then if the NCAA decides to add to Tressel's five-game suspension, does it, say, add on five games at the beginning of the 2012 season? And at that point, does Ohio State figure the hit is too big and take further action on Tressel? Yes, I'm suggesting the f-word. Firing. But not this year. When he is actually on the sideline, the man wins a lot of games.

Are five games enough? On page 5 of the notice (NOA), Ohio State is asked to provide a detailed description of disciplinary actions taken against athletic department officials involved in the inquiry. Specifically, " ... explain the reasons that the institution believes these actions to be appropriate ..."

Will Ohio State be vacating or forfeiting games? The NCAA also asked for the school's win-loss record the last four seasons and the dates and results of postseason competition.

Most damning for Tressel: The NCAA says he had knowledge (through the now-infamous emails) that two players -- Terrelle Pryor and DeVier Posey, though the names are redacted in the notice -- were selling memorabilia to local tattoo-parlor owner Eddie Rife. That means that players competed while ineligible with Tressel's knowledge, a significant violation. Tressel already had signed a document on Sept. 13 saying he was unaware of any wrongdoing. In the NOA, the NCAA has asked for a copy of that form.

Tressel said on March 8 he did not reveal the emails with superiors due to "confidentiality" concerns. However, Tressel did share them with a Jeanette, Pa. businessman Ted Sarniak who has a relationship with Pryor.

Former USC coach Todd McNair was accused of unethical conduct in the Reggie Bush and given a one- year show cause order that essentially did not allow him to work in 2010. He is appealing that ruling separate from USC's appeal of the June penalties.

Columbus Dispatch research showed that since 2006, the NCAA has penalized 28 schools for violating bylaw 10.1 dealing with unethical conduct. There were 13 head coaches involved in those cases. Only one kept his job.

The NCAA did seemingly have a sense of the dramatic. The NOA was delivered to Ohio State president Gordon Gee on Friday, the day before the spring game.


Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: April 26, 2011 12:35 am

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

Lying to the NCAA is enough to be fired.

Covering up the lie from the NCAA, results in major NCAA penalties.

Is Tressel still in Columbus?  I feel bad for OSU fans, but NOT for Tressel.  He is a hypocrite for making a deal with those suspended players, by making them agree to come back for another year...all the while doing all of this.  Hey, I make mistakes too, but I have to pay for them.  So far, Tressel has suffered 0.  He can still coach 6 out of 7 days a week.  OSU made a huge mistake, by not firing him back when all this first came out.  Now they are making this really bad on themselves.  Its over for Tressel, cut your losses now!

Since: May 9, 2007
Posted on: April 26, 2011 12:10 am

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

I only got two or three posts into this when I had to stop.  The first post I read said that five games is enough of a punishment because he is "simply a football coach", not a minister or a judge.  I'll just say that I don't find it hard to believe that the poster is an SEC fan.  Given the loose interpretation of the term "student athlete" across the SEC, I would expect no less of a response from a fan.  I will agree that Tressel is "simply a football coach" but I would add "who cheats" to the end of the description.  He cheated when he let these players participate in games, he lied when he told the NCAA that he did not know of any possible violations and he was extremely unethical when he notified a "mentor" his star QB but apparently didn't notify his AD or Compliance Department.  Tressel cheated.  If he wants to coach in an environment without those pesky rules about being a student and not being paid to play, then he should go coach in the NFL.  He should not be allowed to coach college athletics.
As for the guy talking about BYU, I say "So what".  Yes, if true (I have no idea), the things that BYU is doing are much worse.  So what.  Just because you can name things that are worse does not lessen the severity of what Tressel has done.  I'm not suggesting that Tressel go to jail or worse.  I am suggesting that he has forfeited the privilege of coaching NCAA football by the actions he has taken.  
Just my 2 cents worth...

Since: Dec 8, 2006
Posted on: April 25, 2011 11:04 pm

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

Come on everyone, let's sit back and really consider this. 

First, I was born and raised in Alabama and attended the University of Alabama, graduating in 1984.  Saying I bleed Crimson is quite an understatement.

Like most of you I loath Ohio State.  I can't stand the Big 10.  Boring, slow, and gets mauled everythime a member faces an SEC opponent.

But I do love College football.  Part of my love for it is that I can "hate" Notre Dame, Tennessee and even the way Tressell dresses.  I for one don't want that to go away.  The loathing I feel for Auburn is almost unhealthy.  Yet I don't want them to simply disappear.  I want to see Ohio St lose but with Tressell, not without.

And seriously, I try my best to live a moral and Christian life but rarely does a day go by that I don't do something far worse than Ohio States coach did.  Come on, he lied about an email to protect his players, and his team and therefore the fans and the State of Ohio. I am not condoning his actions, far from it, but the man got 5 games, public humiliation and embarrassment, lets move on.  He is not a Minister, or a Supreme Court judge, he is simply a football coach.

Coach Tressell, I for one wants to see you on the sideline in Game 6, and for years to come.  I would love to see my beloved Bama kick your tail in a not to future National Championship game.

I am really starting to dislike sportswriters.

Since: Mar 7, 2011
Posted on: April 25, 2011 10:11 pm

CougarFan27 what about BYU's issues?

Every time I read and article about any type of violation, this cougarfan is making a comment.  Dude, you need to look in your backyard.  Do you know how corrupt BYU is?  They are getting tax exempt status, and at the same time putting whites ahead of all other races.  Jim Crow laws are alive and well in Provo.

How do you explain all the selective enforcement of the honor code?  Why are 60% of the violaters black even though only 0.4% of the school is black?  Why do the white players get away with drinking and orgies?

There is a wonderful article on about how BYU runs their school.  You should be ashamed.

Since: Nov 30, 2008
Posted on: April 25, 2011 9:53 pm

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

Tressel has been cheating since his Youngstown Sy days so it's about time it caught up with him ! I'm sure Woody Hayes is turning over in his grave !

Since: Nov 17, 2007
Posted on: April 25, 2011 9:37 pm

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

1. He lied.
2. His signed a legal document in which he presented false information - the equivalent of perjury.
3. He played ineligible players and knew it.

Should he and OSU get less than MSU did in 1994 and augmented by NCAA in 1996? Self-reported ineligible player. Self-imposed 2 year probation. Self-imposed reduction of 2 scholarships. NCAA added 2 extra years of probation, loss of an additional 7 scholarships, and vacated the wins in 1994. Perles was fired in 1994 but exonerated by NCAA in 1996.

Tressel and OSU should get more than a slap on the wrist for this.

Since: Jun 8, 2008
Posted on: April 25, 2011 9:12 pm

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

 So he ineligible players play, the NCAA let him play ineligible players in the bowl for tv ratings. Resign? Screw that, If he was paying player's .... yeah maybe. But I can live with this guy's 1 screw up.

Since: Oct 10, 2006
Posted on: April 25, 2011 8:58 pm

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

I like Jim Tressel, always have, despite his hokey Christian stuff, but I still can't understand why he hasn't resigned. The NCAA just can't allow him to coach again. He lied to win... it's time to do the right thing Jimmy. Resign. How in heavens name do you think you can be a role model for you athletes after this? Find a job as an assistant in the pros. The downside of taking a job that requires high moral standards is, if you don't measure up, you don't get to keep the job. It's not rocket science.

Since: Jun 30, 2009
Posted on: April 25, 2011 8:40 pm

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

Those that have not seen enough of Dodds dribble obviously do not understand what the problem we find is.  I am not blaming the messenger, it is not Dodds fault we have the black eye we do.   The probem comes in when he only writes the one sided articles with regard to tOSU and B10.  tOSU brought all this negative press on themselves.  But the dribble from Dodd was way before this. 

Since: Dec 3, 2010
Posted on: April 25, 2011 8:39 pm

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

jsullinger00 - Speaking of hold up, hold up, you have a very short memory, or you never bothered to read any details of the Reggie Busch case.  Boosters were not involved.  The sum total of the school's involvement is the NCAA implied that Todd McNair knew of Reggie's relationship to agents, because the 2 men, family friends who had never represented anyone as an agent, were mugging behind a rapper friend of his in a night club.  Even the 2 scumbag, wanna be agents never told the NCAA that they told McNair they were or wanted to be Bush's agents, but rather that Reggie introduced them as friends of the family.  The NCAA case against McMair for lying is entirely based on misreading a phone call date in early 2006 to McNair when the 2 scumbags tried to blackmail USC and Reggie because he did not sign with them, as having occured in 2005.  The NCAA said, they did not believe McNair met them in 2006 because of that phone call, and that phone call date was clearly misread my the NCAA.  The only other school involvement is that they held that USC should have suspected Reggie was getting benefits when he first showed up with a 9 year old Chevy Impala that had new paint and fancy wheels.  Of course, the only photos anyone has seen of the car are the ones taken after DUB magazine tricked it out for him AFTER he was drafted.  Before that, if was a 9 year old Chevy Impala with new paint and fancy wheels.  The NCAA also ruled that with no paperwork showing a purchase date, but a rough recollection of the beginning of December by the scumbag agent, that Reggie had the car on December 1, the day before USC played UCLA.  Yeah, Reggie was almost certainly car shopping and not at practice on that Friday.  Even when Reggie turned in his notice of the different vehicle (well after he should have), he only listed the date December 2004 as the acquisition date, and there was no hint of scandal and no reason for a coverup by Reggie yet, so again, 12/1 as the buy date is just a convenient way for the NCAA to find a violation in the 2004 regular season, otherwise, all of Reggie's provable and documented (including every scrap of paper shown by the scumbags to the Yahoo reporters) was after the 2004 regular season.  Now, we know Michaels and Lake were on Reggie's dad during the season, but they did not have one single bank or ATM or any kind of reciept to back up claims they did anything other than start to form the agency partnership during the 2004 season - a partnership agreement that was never fully signed, never signed by Reggie, and never modified to have Reggie's name removed and signed by Reggie's father until well into 2005.

None of that is booster involvement, and none of that is school is school knowledge.  Did the school do everything it could to have discovered Reggie?  No, but they were not nearly so lax as the NCAA findings made out with either factual mistakes or leaps of logic.  USC deserved to be punished for the events, but finding knowledge of an inelligible player is not supported by the facts.

And not that it matters, because whether getting $5,000 or $500,000, it is still unacceptable, but if you total up all the separate amounts in the NCAA findings, it is around $120,000, including a valuing the unpaid rent on the house of around $70,000 or so.  The hundreds of thousands of dollar amounts come from the lawsuits filed by Lake and Michaels, trying to claim every penny spent in forming the Agency partnership, plus money they charged to the agency for refurnishing their homes.  But people parrot every allegation they hear in a paper, on talk radio, or in blogs like this, without doing any research, and facts go out the window.

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