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Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

Posted on: April 25, 2011 12:25 pm
Edited on: April 25, 2011 7:02 pm

As predicted in this space, the NCAA is fast-tracking the Ohio State/Tressel case, and no matter what happens it looks like Jim Tressel has not coached his last game at Ohio State. If there is any good news to the school getting its notice of allegations from the NCAA, that's it.

The notice comes less than four months after the Buckeye Six (soon to be five) were suspended in late December.

To no one's surprise, Tressel is accused of unethical conduct for hiding those emails and knowingly playing ineligible players. The NCAA says that Ohio State could be treated as a "repeat violator" meaning that technically it is eligible for the death penalty. (Settle down Bucknuts, it won't happen).

It is compelling to finally see in print that the NCAA has officially alleged that Ohio State competed with ineligible players on the field. Beyond Tressel's unethical conduct, that is the essence of the case. USC competed with one ineligible player (Reggie Bush) and look what it got -- a two-year bowl ban and the removal of 30 scholarships over three years.

Using that as example, is it fair to assume that Ohio State will receive similar penalties? If so, it doesn't look like those will impact this season. In other words, Ohio State could compete for the Big Ten and national championship in 2011, less than a year after the school announced the initial player suspensions.

That's the same reason why it seems that Tressel will coach this season. Ohio State will reportedly appear before the NCAA infractions committee on Aug. 12. Typically, penalties follow six to eight weeks after such a meeting. Considering the depth and scope of the case, finalizing this case could take much longer. Tressel already has been suspended for the first five games of the 2011 season. Using UConn basketball coach Jim Calhoun, as an example the NCAA isn't likely to add to the suspension this season.

UConn's penalty came down in the middle of last season. Because of that, Calhoun's three-game suspension was put off until the 2011-2012 season. That makes things even more sketchy at Ohio State. Applying that history, a bowl ban, scholarship reductions, etc., would be put off until 2012 as well.

Then if the NCAA decides to add to Tressel's five-game suspension, does it, say, add on five games at the beginning of the 2012 season? And at that point, does Ohio State figure the hit is too big and take further action on Tressel? Yes, I'm suggesting the f-word. Firing. But not this year. When he is actually on the sideline, the man wins a lot of games.

Are five games enough? On page 5 of the notice (NOA), Ohio State is asked to provide a detailed description of disciplinary actions taken against athletic department officials involved in the inquiry. Specifically, " ... explain the reasons that the institution believes these actions to be appropriate ..."

Will Ohio State be vacating or forfeiting games? The NCAA also asked for the school's win-loss record the last four seasons and the dates and results of postseason competition.

Most damning for Tressel: The NCAA says he had knowledge (through the now-infamous emails) that two players -- Terrelle Pryor and DeVier Posey, though the names are redacted in the notice -- were selling memorabilia to local tattoo-parlor owner Eddie Rife. That means that players competed while ineligible with Tressel's knowledge, a significant violation. Tressel already had signed a document on Sept. 13 saying he was unaware of any wrongdoing. In the NOA, the NCAA has asked for a copy of that form.

Tressel said on March 8 he did not reveal the emails with superiors due to "confidentiality" concerns. However, Tressel did share them with a Jeanette, Pa. businessman Ted Sarniak who has a relationship with Pryor.

Former USC coach Todd McNair was accused of unethical conduct in the Reggie Bush and given a one- year show cause order that essentially did not allow him to work in 2010. He is appealing that ruling separate from USC's appeal of the June penalties.

Columbus Dispatch research showed that since 2006, the NCAA has penalized 28 schools for violating bylaw 10.1 dealing with unethical conduct. There were 13 head coaches involved in those cases. Only one kept his job.

The NCAA did seemingly have a sense of the dramatic. The NOA was delivered to Ohio State president Gordon Gee on Friday, the day before the spring game.


Since: May 9, 2009
Posted on: April 25, 2011 8:34 pm

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

Okay I dont have a dog in the race but here is the way I see it....first and foremost all you Buc fans whining about Dodd's article get over it. Dont kill the messenger and just so you know I am an Irish fan and he blasts us all the time. Not saying we dont deserve it sometimes...just saying so he is not selective in his dressing down of teams. I liked Jim Tressel. I thought he was an upfront honorable kind of guy. Not a B10 fan but I was a fan of his. Fast forward to now...HE LIED...plain and simple. These coaches either think they wont be found out or they somehow think they are exempt from the rules because they are winning or they coach at a school they believe is untouchable. We know that is a fallacy ask USC. By the way I live in Tennessee so the sports stations here were all over the Bruce Pearl screwup. He was a good coach but the school could not condone his lying and their fear was the school would be treated more severly if he remained as coach. Throw in the fact he was arrogant about the whole thing and bingo you have a PR nightmare which we all know affects recruiting, donors, etc....I still cannot understand why he didnt at least tell his AD or the Legal Dept at Ohio State. Is it because he already knew how they would respond? I did relate to the panic mode he must have been in so he doesnt forward the email - or so he says - and then we find out he did let Pryor's mentor know? Why? So it doesnt matter if you think the rules are stupid - they probably are but they are what they are and you dont get to pick the ones you comply with. Of course other schools have committed more serious infractions - so what - that is such a lame argument because it is about YOUR school. Sounds like one of my children saying everybody else is doing it...didnt work for them and it wont work for Ohio State. I just dont see how you can maintain the integrity of the school you claim you have and keep him as coach. He is the person the players look up to. What message are you sending to them? I think Ohio State would have been better served if they had suspended the players for the Sugar Bowl. That would have been an example of integrity. I wonder how Jim Tressel kept his game face on when all that drama was going on and he knew all along. I have no clue what Ohio State will do or the NCAA. I have a good friend who is a die hard Ohio State fan who thinks the only way Ohio State can salvage their reputation is to fire him.

Since: Mar 19, 2008
Posted on: April 25, 2011 8:22 pm

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

the players were reinstated by the NCAA for the sugar bowl which means they will probably forfeit the season but keep the bowl game. Again the NCAA reinstated the players for the Sugar bowl

Since: Apr 1, 2011
Posted on: April 25, 2011 8:21 pm

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

It may be fair game to take issue with what Dodd writes or how he approaches it, but for goodness sakes don't blame him or other media figures for causing a "stain" on Ohio State.  The fabulous five players started that process off just fine and coach Tressel did most of the job by withholding information and knowingly playing ineligible players for much of the season, finally culminating in not having the stones to suspend them for the Sugar Bowl for clear money reasons.  OSU AD and president Gee then put the icing on the cake by joking that they are lucky not to be dismissed by Tressel.  Even giving full benefit of the doubt whether it was just humor or whatever, a leader needs to acknowledge the seriousness of the situation and step up with some principle to correct the situation.  I haven't seen any of the above yet from the entire OSU leadership.  In my opinion, that is the essence of lack of institutional control.  Perhaps the initial misdeeds were not as serious as USC, but the response has been comparatively pathetic.  If the NCAA has any guts they will say so and act accordingly.  Oh, and by the way, none of it will be Dodd's fault.

Since: Mar 22, 2011
Posted on: April 25, 2011 8:13 pm

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but why do conservatives (Republican Tressel) seem to think breaking the rules or lying is OK if it's them, but not OK for any one else? Just a thought, and I have no idea what political party Bruce Pearl belonged. For the record, I'm an Independent.

Since: Dec 2, 2007
Posted on: April 25, 2011 8:02 pm

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

It does not matter if you coach Ohio State, Auburn, USC, LSU, or FL or whoever, what matters is that the coach is above all the BS. Tressell needs to be removed. He hid information he lied and now he is going to cost the university bowl games and scholarships. Protect him all you want but he needs to be fired. Why should he be fired? He basically told and showed his kids it is ok to be a liar and cheat and I will take care of it all. We want our kids to go and play for a coach who is upstanding and honest and make millions for our shools, but when the kids break the rules we want to punish them, but when the coach breaks the rules we want to forgive him and let him continue to make millions. It is time for all of this to stop and it is time Tressell became the first coach to get fired and the ncaa fire some more or suspend more, if not fire tressell suspend him for a year and maybe we can clean up college sports. Someone has to be made the example Pete Carroll left to go to the NFL because he knew the hammer was coming down, Tressell should probably resign and save the U.

Since: Jun 30, 2009
Posted on: April 25, 2011 7:54 pm

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

What a tool Dodd.  Where is the negative article about FL and the drugs?
Here you go. Now get your panties out of the wad and quit crying...other schools are being cited for wrong doings; it's not just your little buckeyes getting picked on.

I didnt see Dodds name on that article... I have not problem with the negative articles, tOSU screwed up and that is what they get.  My point was that is all Dodd ever writes about tOSU and usually the B10.  Take a look at his writing.  The only positive seems to be SEC. 

Since: Jan 5, 2011
Posted on: April 25, 2011 7:42 pm

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

Hold up hold up. Are they seriously comparing this to usc? Last i checked no one aksed for a house a car or recieved hundreds of thousands of dollars from boosters. This should be handled by simply suspending the players for 5 games and suspending tressel for the whole season. Just to avoid looking overly bias for neglecting to investigate further into the greatest theft of all time last year involving auburn.

Since: Jul 17, 2008
Posted on: April 25, 2011 7:41 pm

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

WOW, this smells like the SEC!  Now i do hate the SEC, its coaches, players, and fans, and Tressels actions seem to remind me of how the SEC "plays" football.  So if this was an SEC coach I would rag in him all day and night and call for his head.  Well I am calling for Tressels head right now!  HEY "The Ohio St. University"  (they sound sooooo stupid whey they say that) DO THE RIGHT THING HERE!  The SEC is dirty but they are so much better than the BIG 10, the only thing i could respond with was, "well at least we are semi-clean", thanks Tressel, now I dont even have that.  Do the right thing, tell the truth, and be an example, not a lying D-BAG!!!

Since: Nov 17, 2006
Posted on: April 25, 2011 7:27 pm

Ohio St. case takes another step toward ... what?

IF ... Ohio State knowingly played ineligible players, the NCAA should require them to forfeit all games where they did so and to repay any financial gains that they received as a result of playing in the Sugar Bowl.  

IF ... Tressel lied about what he knew, when he learned of it and or whom he reported it to (as he claims to have not told anybody), he should be immediately fired and Ohio State should receive NCAA sanctions on par with other Universities that committed major infractions (i.e. USC).

IF ... the NCAA grows a set of balls in the next few weeks some of the above will happen, but as we all know full well, THAT will most likely never happen!

The sad truth to all of this is that the NCAA and it's BCS partners can and will continue to collude, cover up and rationalize these kinds of actions on behalf of its selected few member institutions with the objective of continuing the farce and fraud that is the BCS system until somebody steps up and stops them.  With the crooks guarding the loot, nothing will change.  A Sherman anti-trust review of the BCS needs to begin immediately and thanks to recent numb-nutted behavior on a few fronts (see John Junker comportment) the tax exempt status of the BSC should be revoked.  The money would be better spent in tax dollars to help reduce our crippling deficit than on lap dances for BCS cronies at strip clubs in Arizona!

Since: Jan 24, 2007
Posted on: April 25, 2011 7:18 pm

Wollam11-Get head out of sand

Suckeye athletic director and president now are equally at fault. They did not take appropriate action when they found out the facts. Slimeball Tressel should have been FIRED as soon as the AD found out. Idiot Gee said he was more worried about being fired than firing slug Tressel. All are in bed with each other. NCAA should give death sentence to SLUG Tressel and put Suckeyes on probation-forfeit all 2010 games,give back Sugar Bowl monies,NO TV or bowls for minimum of 1 year and lose scholarships.

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