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Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

Posted on: July 1, 2011 3:10 pm
Edited on: July 4, 2011 11:33 am

It turns out Oregon was that dumb.

It did get in bed with a talent scout to lure tailback Lache Seastrunk to Oregon if you draw the thinnest of conclusions from Friday's Yahoo! Sports story. It turns out that talent scout/mentor/third party/opportunist Will Lyles did essentially Photoshop a national recruiting package together follow Yahoo! Sports' initial report.

I didn't think Oregon could be so dumb. I was wrong.

The report details what is clearly a close relationship between Oregon and Lyles. The story says relationship with Chip Kelly goes back to 2007. The NCAA won't even have to try hard to classify Lyles as a representative of the university's athletic interests. In other words, a booster.

The tragedy of it is, Oregon and Kelly didn't have to do any of this. The program had the support of Nike behind it. Kelly himself is a heck of a coach and a tireless recruiter, although even that label must now be in question.

This isn't a case of the media fireflies being drawn to an upstart championship contender. The likes of Kelly, Jim Tressel and Bruce Pearl are making it too easy for us. They're sloppy and arrogant in their alleged wrongdoing. Think about how simpler life would be for Tressel if he had merely walked down the hall to his athletic director with those emails. Pearl would still be coaching if he told the truth. Kelly didn't need Seastrunk that badly. So far, the kid hasn't panned out.

Instead, he allegedly funneled tens of thousands of dollars to a shady character with a relationship to a recruit. My God, it's Texas football. There's plenty to go around for everyone. Was Seastrunk worth it? We know now the answer is no.

Fallout? According to the story, the NCAA has already been in to talk to Lyles. But Lyles said they didn't ask specific questions that Yahoo! Sports did (go figure). You can bet they'll be back in wanting to see Lyles' emails and phone records too. Why wouldn't he cooperate? Lyles has the morals of a slug anyway. It looks to me that the only reason he rolled on Oregon was that they weren't going to pay him again.

Be very concerned Duck Nation. Oregon is in line for major penalties, the kind that burn a program to the ground. USC-like. Kelly's job could be in jeopardy. This is not USC looking the other way while Reggie Bush took money, this is a willful attempt to gain a recruiting and competitive advantage.

Can anyone win big without cheating? The question remains unanswered.




Category: NCAAF
Tags: NCAA, Oregon

Since: Jul 2, 2011
Posted on: July 3, 2011 2:00 pm

Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

I bet NIke has help the Ducks cheat in more ways ! Phil Knight is a sicko !


Since: Oct 31, 2006
Posted on: July 3, 2011 12:20 pm

Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

Rampant cheating in college football. Bring back the death penalty. So what if eventually there will only be about 5 football teams left. They can play each other twice.

Since: Sep 22, 2008
Posted on: July 3, 2011 11:28 am

Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

I don't know if LSU ever used Lyle's recruiting services (I doubt it) but I do know Texas hasn't.  As Seastrunk was being recruited he was initially considered an absolute Texas lock.  He played HS ball less than 90 minutes north of Austin.  However, as his recruiting unfolded Mack and Texas unmistakably backed away. Again, it was odd, as we certainly needed a difference maker at running back.  Nonetheless, we backed off.  While Lyle’s was a well known character in Texas (Good night nurse, I knew about him) I am certainly not privileged to the decisions made within the program.  I don’t know why Texas backed off.  My point is and was that I hope we make as good decisions as Bob Stoops did at OU when he released Bomar et als.  Should UO have known, I think so.  Recruiting talent to sustain a successful program like UO is a difficult proposition and yes, certain areas, due to large population centers and the dominance of HS football have clear natural advantages.  How Nebraska manages is a mystery to me and a credit to a terrific program.  There is a certain fragility of the entire amateur/tax exempt status college football resides.  The rules seem somewhat arcane, ambiguous and way beyond the scope of a coach to perfectly adhere.  Regardless, when a program becomes aware or suspects a stench, ethically, it should investigate and do what can reasonably be done to root it out, that’s all.  The programs currently being most closely scrutinized are the ones that not only looked away, “nothing here to see,” but may have even embraced the behaviors.  Smile

Since: Nov 17, 2007
Posted on: July 3, 2011 10:42 am

Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

So, who won the 2010 Rose Bowl now
Given no penalties at this time, the winner is... Ohio State.

With sanctions vacating wins, the winner still is Ohio State, but the record books will add the note that the win was vacated. Even had Oregon not gotten itself into this fine mess, they would not have been credited with a win.

Amusing question, though.


Since: Jun 15, 2011
Posted on: July 3, 2011 8:46 am

Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

So, who won the 2010 Rose Bowl now>

Since: Sep 9, 2006
Posted on: July 3, 2011 8:41 am

Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

Funny to hear the OSU crowd using this 'potential' scandal as somehow vindicating JT, claiming he was crucified, etc... Trust me Nike and ESPN are already working frenetically behind the scenes to get this buried. Oregon is a great up and coming story in college football, OSU is a fading dinosaur.

Since: Jun 5, 2011
Posted on: July 3, 2011 8:39 am

Lyles isn't an Oregon Booster...

...Lyles is a Lyles booster.  Oregon is about to find out, like THE Ohio State University, that the cover-up is a lot worse than the original "crime."  Lyles sells his services to everyone who will pay him; I find it difficult to classify him as a booster of any particular school.  Before the cover-up, the core issue would have been whether the services he supplies are within the rules.  Now, though, Oregon has admitted that they think they are cheating by their cover-up.  USC, OSU, UNC, and Oregon should start their own National Cheating with Arrogance Association."

Since: Oct 12, 2010
Posted on: July 3, 2011 2:27 am

Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

Not so much....turns out that ole Will Lyles has many clients.  LSU and Texas were reaping his rewards long before Oregon came calling.

Since: Feb 25, 2008
Posted on: July 3, 2011 2:25 am

Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

Probably the most unfulling tri-graph comment in message board history. Kept reading in hopes of getting to the point. Ended up where I started - with a pretentious blowhard who loves reading his own prose.

Since: Mar 31, 2011
Posted on: July 2, 2011 10:42 pm

Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

CHEAT ... YOU DID ... IT WORKED ... BIG TIME DUCKS ... CAUGHT ... BYE BYE NOW ...................................

...........QUACK ...

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