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Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

Posted on: July 1, 2011 3:10 pm
Edited on: July 4, 2011 11:33 am

It turns out Oregon was that dumb.

It did get in bed with a talent scout to lure tailback Lache Seastrunk to Oregon if you draw the thinnest of conclusions from Friday's Yahoo! Sports story. It turns out that talent scout/mentor/third party/opportunist Will Lyles did essentially Photoshop a national recruiting package together follow Yahoo! Sports' initial report.

I didn't think Oregon could be so dumb. I was wrong.

The report details what is clearly a close relationship between Oregon and Lyles. The story says relationship with Chip Kelly goes back to 2007. The NCAA won't even have to try hard to classify Lyles as a representative of the university's athletic interests. In other words, a booster.

The tragedy of it is, Oregon and Kelly didn't have to do any of this. The program had the support of Nike behind it. Kelly himself is a heck of a coach and a tireless recruiter, although even that label must now be in question.

This isn't a case of the media fireflies being drawn to an upstart championship contender. The likes of Kelly, Jim Tressel and Bruce Pearl are making it too easy for us. They're sloppy and arrogant in their alleged wrongdoing. Think about how simpler life would be for Tressel if he had merely walked down the hall to his athletic director with those emails. Pearl would still be coaching if he told the truth. Kelly didn't need Seastrunk that badly. So far, the kid hasn't panned out.

Instead, he allegedly funneled tens of thousands of dollars to a shady character with a relationship to a recruit. My God, it's Texas football. There's plenty to go around for everyone. Was Seastrunk worth it? We know now the answer is no.

Fallout? According to the story, the NCAA has already been in to talk to Lyles. But Lyles said they didn't ask specific questions that Yahoo! Sports did (go figure). You can bet they'll be back in wanting to see Lyles' emails and phone records too. Why wouldn't he cooperate? Lyles has the morals of a slug anyway. It looks to me that the only reason he rolled on Oregon was that they weren't going to pay him again.

Be very concerned Duck Nation. Oregon is in line for major penalties, the kind that burn a program to the ground. USC-like. Kelly's job could be in jeopardy. This is not USC looking the other way while Reggie Bush took money, this is a willful attempt to gain a recruiting and competitive advantage.

Can anyone win big without cheating? The question remains unanswered.




Category: NCAAF
Tags: NCAA, Oregon

Since: Jun 25, 2010
Posted on: July 2, 2011 12:51 pm

Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

What I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around is why a talented coach with a good team would even consider sacrificing all just to land a player or two! I'm sure there is trouble with every School but it should come from the players not the over paid coaches. I find it hard to say one coach is blameless while another is not, however in this instance the facts seem to stand on their own.

These guys have to be smart right? How many millions do you need to satisfy family and life in general. Why can't they just do the job, make the money then if not successful simply move on?  The Schools and future athletes are going to suffer for what? It's just crazy and I'm glad this is coming out. Perhaps some of these SMART, OVERPAID Coaches will think twice about obvious unscrupulous behavior.

For those who are fast to condemn the NCAA infractions arm think twice. These events are galvanizing the industry and I'm sure in future some smart coach is going to do the right thing, take his money and call it a day. We can only hope.

Since: Sep 10, 2006
Posted on: July 2, 2011 12:47 pm

Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

No positive way to spin this for the Ducks/Kelly...  Regardless of what everybody else is/may be doing.  They (the collective Duck family, including Chip) messed up, and now they've got to take their medicine. A very inopportune time for a Program that was on the rise, to learn a very hard lesson!...

Since: Nov 24, 2006
Posted on: July 2, 2011 11:49 am

Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

Lawrence Phillips was a woman beater there is no question there. This article is about recruiting NOT about players actions once they are on the team. Nebraska has had plenty of players getting in trouble with DUI'S, and of course Phillips who is now in prison for like 25 years. Nebraska does it right when it comes to getting players to Lincoln.

Since: Jul 2, 2011
Posted on: July 2, 2011 11:09 am

Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

peteND you may want to revisit ND's disgusting cover up of a female booster that took players on trips to vegas and slept with them, lavished them with went on for ten years and was proven Lou Holtz covered it are in a glass house 

Since: Jul 2, 2011
Posted on: July 2, 2011 11:05 am

Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

Yeah...Ohio State had players trading trinkets for tattoo's and their coach did not come forward with the info...that is much worse than paying 25k for a player with school funds and then having the compliance department explain how they can work around the rules...pushing mom aside to win at all costs...yeah tattoo's for trinkets vs pay for play and admisions fraud..real similar

Since: Jul 2, 2011
Posted on: July 2, 2011 10:59 am

Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

Nebraska is very clean although no one knows how they get recruits from Texas to the middle of a corn field....oh yeah and they are not that good and when they were LP punched his girl friend and dragged her down the steps then Tom Osborne played him....but yeah no recruiting violations

Since: Nov 28, 2007
Posted on: July 2, 2011 10:45 am

Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

You may want to read the book, Big Red Confidential about drug use and performance payments within the Nebraska football program.  Or Google Lawrence Phillips.

Since: Nov 24, 2006
Posted on: July 2, 2011 9:14 am

Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

Can Anyone Win with out Cheating???? When was the last time you seen Nebraska in the funny papers like this? When was the last time you seen any recruiting violations or any scandals coming from Lincoln Nebraska??? I'm waiting.................Thats right. You can't tell me. Sure it's been since 1997 since the Huskers have won a National Title but the program has and ALWAYS will be a Powerhouse Football program. They take pride in the Walk-On program they have. They take pride in all the Accademic All-Americans they have year in and year out. So There you have it DODD!! Take a look at the University of Nebraska and there is your answer!!!!

Since: Feb 11, 2009
Posted on: July 2, 2011 6:05 am

Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

Well, this figures.  Dodd has to write a piece on this, and of course, he can't do it without somehow bringing in his lastest jump-on scandals, OSU and Jim Tressel, and Bruce Pearl.  Thie piece is allegedly about Oregon and Kelly.  But Dodd couldn't resist an aside to take a shot at Tressel.  What does Tressel or Bruce Pearl have to do with the situation at Oregon?  It's not that I am saying Tressel and OSU are not guilty of some real violations.  It's just that Dodd doesn't seem to be able to write material without having the security blanket of certain familiar referent
s to kick around.  For a couple years, it was Reggie Bush, Pete Carroll, and USC.  Now it's Jim Tressel and OSU. 

Since: Feb 27, 2008
Posted on: July 2, 2011 5:20 am

Will Lyles drops a big, ol' dime on Oregon

Oh yeah Dodd?  Oregon didn't have to do any of this?  Guess what?  The other team in the national championship did the same thing, if not worse, and won the damn thing.  To be competitive in the mess of an assosciation called the NCAA, you have to get a little dirty.  It's obvious.  All the top teams are looking fishy, being probed - even innocent lil' Boise St!  The stairs are broken, and now you have to take the elevator.

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