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Texas to the Pac-12 makes sense

Posted on: August 11, 2011 11:57 pm
Don't look at this Texas A&M thing as conference realignment. Look at it through the stakeholders' eyes.

The stakeholders being ESPN, Oklahoma, A&M and Texas. It's likely that ESPN CEO John Skipper is evaluating at this moment how to maximize his profits through Oklahoma, Texas A&M and Texas if there is another round of conference shuffling.

Where those schools end up is less important than how the three current Big 12 schools can be profitable for ESPN (and Fox).

Whether or not A&M ends up in the SEC, watch for the Pac-12 to sooner or later take another run at Texas. The Big 12's instability dictates it. Commissioner Larry Scott told the Austin American-Statesman last month after the formation of the Pac-12 network one could "imply" that the Longhorn Network would be a "huge impediment" to Texas joining his league.

How quickly things change -- or possibly change. In a strange way, the Pac-12 could now make it more likely that Texas make the jump if it deems the Big 12 not worth the effort.

"At this point I don't think Larry does anything," one source close to the situation said, "He's got to let it come to him. He's the one who is sitting there with all the firepower. There is no one in a better position to monetize expansion than Larry Scott is. Not the SEC, not the Big East, not the ACC, not the Big 12. He's sitting in the catbird seat."

Why? Because he can. Remember, Scott was the guy who had invited six Big 12 teams, including Texas, last year. Consider it a still-open invitation. One that Texas would have to seriously consider.

One source painted it this way: The new Pac-12 Network is made up of six regional networks. Why couldn't the Longhorn Network be folded into the Pac-12 as a seventh regional network?

The source emphasized that ESPN is desperate to make TLN profitable. It has sunk hundreds of millions into the venture and there is no certainty whether it will work. To date, only the Big Ten Network has been profitable among collegiate networks.

It didn't help Thursday that the NCAA ruled against the televising of high school games on school/conference networks.

There are a few hurdles. Texas supposedly would have to surrender its third-party rights (re: archival, historic properties). But if Texas shows interest, that's nothing more that details. The new Pac-12 shares revenue more or less equally. Again, that can be worked out because it's, well, Texas.

Pac-12 schools would have consider working around those barriers to get the No. 1 revenue-producing athletic department into its conference.

That takes care of Texas. Oklahoma? If A&M bolts, it is seemingly a swing team between the Pac-12 and SEC.

Here's why ESPN would like A&M in the SEC: The Aggies would make ESPN's (and CBS') 15-year, $3 billion deal with the league more profitable. Some at A&M obviously see it as a more stable home.

If the Big 12 crumbles, the Longhorns most likely aren't going to the SEC or Big Ten. Texas has always looked down its nose at the SEC. Texas AD DeLoss Dodds is on record as saying he is against independence.

The Pac-12 makes the most sense for Texas almost because of TLN. It would increase the value of Pac-12 Network as well as increase the value of TLN.

"Something is wrong with your conference," a source said. "when Washington State is getting more from its conference than the University of Texas."

The source was referring to the fact that some Pac-12 projections have the league making $30 million per school once its network gets up and running. Even when the Big 12 renegotiates its primary rights in a couple of years, it is expected to top out at $20 million per year. That was with A&M.

So where does that leave us? Scott and SEC commissioner Mike Slive declined to comment through spokesmen. Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe did not return phone and text messages.

But I learned last year during the conference merry-go-round to start with the stakeholders. Last year, it was Texas and Notre Dame. Both stayed in place, minimizing conference realignment.

This year the main players are Oklahoma, Texas and A&M. The question seems to be whether the Big 12 will hold together (with nine schools, or more with new expansion) if A&M leaves. That decision is up to Texas and ESPN (and Fox).

That combination kept the Big 12 together last year. Is the negativity such that the league couldn't go on after the loss of A&M? Is an enhanced SEC and Pac-12 worth more to ESPN than a damaged or non-existent Big 12?

The answers, seemingly, are coming soon. Despite reports that A&M-to-the-SEC was a done deal, it's likely that nothing will be officially decided until the Aug. 22 A&M regents meeting.

While Nebraska was a slam dunk to go to the Big Ten last spring, it wasn't official until AD Tom Osborne and chancellor Harvey Perlman made their official presentation to the regents.

Through an A&M spokesman I was able to determine this much about the process:

--A conference call among the regents is scheduled for Aug. 22. The fiscal year budgets for the entire A&M system will be discussed.

--An agenda has not been published beyond the budget discussions. An official agenda for the meeting will be available 72 hours prior.

--The spokesman would say whether conference membership would be discussed.
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Since: Sep 5, 2011
Posted on: September 5, 2011 1:07 pm

Texas to the Pac-12 makes sense

Big Daddy > I was ok w/what you were saying until the "simply afraid of the SEC." Afraid of the SEC??? You are kidding, yes?  Texas has a winning record against EVERY SEC football team.  We own Alabama...we would have beaten Alabama a couple of years ago in the BCS.  We were kicking their butt when our QB got hurt.  our record vs. Alabama is afraid of the SEC???  I don't think so....take off your SEC glasses and come back to reality.

Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: September 3, 2011 4:52 pm

Texas to the Pac-12 makes sense

The move of Texas to the PAC-12 would make more sense than most realize. The Texas AD De Loss Dodds,  has indicated he would not be in favor of Texas being an independent. Texas don’t think highly of the Big-10 and hate the sec. It has nothing to do with Texas not having a winning record or losing record against the sec

I am not sure but I think this feeling is a hold over from Arkansas bolting from the South West Conference, engineered by the Arkansas AD Frank Broyles. When Arkansas left the SWC, it cause the other programs to look for a replacement or join another conference, thus the Big-8 expanded to the Big-12, with the addition of former members of the South
West Conference.
The PAC-12 has regional television networks for their conference and could easily merge the Long Horn Network and make it one of the regional networks.

The conference is no longer a viable conference. Texas A&M to the sec is a done deal. Programs as high profile as Texas A&M don’t make that many mistakes and not have guarantees in place before taking action. Behind the scenes the sec has given the green light that it would accept Texas A&M.

Texas A&M has requested their release from the conference. The only thing that is in doubt now is the cost for Texas A&M to leave the conference.

Once these legal matters are done the sec would issue an invite to Texas A&M.  

Oklahoma has place feelers to find out which conference they would best fit into. Not to lose sight that the conference could no longer be around Oklahoma state has hitched it’s wagon to the coattails of Oklahoma and has indicated that where Oklahoma goes so would State.

I was at one time under the impression that the PAC-12 would pick up perhaps 2 teams from the big-12. I am not of the opinion that the PAC-12 would pick up 4 teams from the Big-12 making the PAC-12 that a 16 team conference. I am sure the PAC-12 would want Oklahoma and Texas and would make accommodations to accept Oklahoma State Texas Tech if they are a package deal

I am sure the sec would not stand idly by and not expand to a 16 team conference if the PAC-12 does so. The sec would definitively go after Mizzo. I am not sure they would be interested in other programs in the conference.

What the PAC-12and sec fail to pick up would probably  go to  the Mountain West, C-USA or Western Athletic. I can not see the Sunbelt or ACC being major players in this conference realignment.


Since: Aug 16, 2011
Posted on: August 16, 2011 10:02 am

Texas to the Pac-12 makes sense

Texas scared?

Series Records: Texas leads all SEC teams as listed below

Alabama    7-1-1
;  5-3
Florida    &nbs
p;  2-0
Georgia    &nbs
LSU     &n
bsp;     9-7-1
Ole Miss    5-1
Miss State  2-2
Tennessee 2-1

Yeah we are scared to death. We didn't become the 2nd winningest program in NCAA by losing to teams like Georgia. We apparently have more options than Georgia who is locked into a conference they can't seem to win in. Must be frustrating.

Since: Jan 5, 2007
Posted on: August 14, 2011 12:18 pm

Texas to the Pac-12 makes sense

Yeah, because the NCAA uses the basketball money to fund the NCAA tournament.  If that doesn't tell you anything, you are blind.  I'll copy/paste the numbers for you to prove that the basketball money KU makes is greater than the football money of other programs!

Here's a listing of the top 10 schools nationally.

  • 1. Texas: $120,288,370
  • 2. Ohio State: $117,953,712
  • 3. Florida: $106,030,895
  • 4. Michigan: $99,027,105
  • 5. Wisconsin: $93,452,334
  • 6. Penn State: $91,570,233
  • 7. Auburn: $89,305,326
  • 8. Alabama: $88,869,810
  • 9. Tennessee: $88,719,798
  • 10. Oklahoma State: $88,554,438

And here's a list of the rest of the Big 12 schools and their national rankings, according to the Sentinel's chart.

  • 11. Kansas: $86,009,257
  • 17. Oklahoma: $77,098,009
  • 20. Nebraska: $75,492,884
  • 21. Texas A&M: $74,781,640
  • 43. Colorado: $52,631,896
  • 46. Missouri: $49,113,786
  • 47. Kansas State: $48,160,113
  • 56. Baylor: $44,151,763
  • 58. Texas Tech: $42,844,855
  • 63. Iowa State: $38,642,013
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Since: Dec 19, 2006
Posted on: August 14, 2011 11:43 am

Texas to the Pac-12 makes sense

No one ever realigned a conference due to basketball, period. 

Since: Dec 19, 2006
Posted on: August 14, 2011 11:41 am

Texas to the Pac-12 makes sense

Basketball money is horse**it compared to football money.  Kansas is irrelevant, get over it

Since: Jan 5, 2007
Posted on: August 14, 2011 11:32 am

Texas to the Pac-12 makes sense

If you guys think KU doesn't matter, read this:


and see for yourselves!  Just saying but a big time basketball program can make up for a lackluster football program.  #3 and ahead of pre-season #1 OU is pretty amazing! 

Since: Sep 20, 2009
Posted on: August 13, 2011 9:57 pm

Texas to the Pac-12 makes sense

For all those who say VA Tech is going to the SEC please note that the ONLY reason VA Tech even was invited to the ACC was the VA politics at the time ordered the university of VA to vote to include VA tech. The ACC was going to take Syracuse look it up. This will hold true to any moves this go around if any ACC teams go it will be Clemson or GA Tech both have in state SEC rivals big tv markets.The ACC will survive just fimn and replace them with( choose from at least ten possible schools, The real prize in this whole thing is Oklahoma (but they have OSU baggage)

Since: Jul 21, 2011
Posted on: August 13, 2011 8:22 pm

Texas to the Pac-12 makes sense

Please ku just go away!!!!!!!!

Since: Jun 8, 2008
Posted on: August 13, 2011 12:18 pm

Texas to the Pac-12 makes sense

 It wouldnt cause a problem in the Pac 12 because the other teams wouldnt let it happen. They wouldnt be able to push around the schools in the Pac 12. Why go independent when you can sit in your crappy conference much like Boise St and curb stomp everyone week in and week out and play 1 OOC tough game to round out an undefeated season? Texas is hard headed and so is Beebee, I see them adding more medicore teams just to run the show and have an AQ for them and Oklahoma.

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