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Oklahoma's 'sole focus' is Pac-12

Posted on: September 3, 2011 6:04 pm
Edited on: September 3, 2011 7:39 pm
ARLINGTON, Texas -- Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott came to the Metroplex Saturday and a college football game broke out.

Sorry, but LSU-Oregon just got knocked off center stage here. The Oklahoman is reporting that Oklahoma's "sole focus" is on the Pac-12.  The implications are as significant as you think. The guy who wrote the story, columnist Berry Trammel, is as solid as they come. You can it to the bank.

It seems as if the Big 12 stands on the brink of breaking apart.

"You put something like that [Oklahoman quote] out there and it just reinforces that image of being unstable," Missouri's Mike Alden said from Columbia, Mo. "How do you recover from that? I don't know."

Scott is scheduled to meet with the media here at Cowboys Stadium press box at 7 pm ET. Stay tuned.

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Since: Dec 20, 2006
Posted on: September 6, 2011 2:02 pm

Oklahoma's 'sole focus' is Pac-12

If you can get to four 'Super Conferences', then it will be much easier to format a playoff system. A lot of these BCS Bowls of today are going to get used to the fact that they will be selecting at large teams instead of conference champions. The demand to watch two non conference winners will not be high, thereby lowering the guaranteed money for the schools.

And herein lies the reason the superconferences will NOT happen.  The BCS schools do not want a playoff system.  Fans keep talking about 4 superconferences because FANS want a playoff.  The BCS schools and conferences have no interest in a playoff system.  This is not a motivating factor.  If anything, it will discourage conferences from forming super-conferences.

Since: Nov 19, 2008
Posted on: September 5, 2011 8:56 am

Oklahoma's 'sole focus' is Pac-12

@don sowell
I agree that the PAC 12 is a solid conference, and though I do not agree with the conclusions that you have raised, mainly because the sole source you have used is the Sagarin ratings which have many flaws, and are also based on subjectiveness. It is hard to argue with the SEC's championships lately, especially when the sole PAC alternative was disgraced and had its only championship vacated.
The bottom line is that the PAC 12 may be the recipient of the Top College Football Program since WWII in Oklahoma, one of the top up and coming programs in Oklahoma State, and if Texas can ever get over itself, one of, if not THE top brand in college football. Even without Texas the PAC 12 gains enough to make it more than just a regional conference. OU will bring Dallas/Ft Worth and OKC tv markets, and Texas recruiting, if Texas comes the PAC 10 will gain the other Texas TV markets and even more Texas recruiting visibility.

Dont be fooled by the legalese coming from the PAC 12 about not actively seeking this move, much like the SEC and A&M, they are listening to their lawyers, but they have made it clear that they would like nothing better, this is a huge win for the PAC 12. It has the capability of being a huge win for OU, but frankly OU has other options, the SEC has already offered them once and if it comes down to it, they would not hesitate to bring OU in.

Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: September 4, 2011 8:47 pm

Oklahoma's 'sole focus' is Pac-12

Even though there might be 4-5 large conferences in college football, I am still oppose to a playoff and sorta crowning a national champion.

This is done on Sunday of each NFL football season, therefore if you are looking for a national champion, go to the professionals.

The college football enthusiasts and fans are pretty happy with the way things are, though we could get rid of this BCS crap.

If you are not pleased with the way college football is currently please take this opportunity to dial in on Sunday to your favorite Professional football team. These teams need finality and a champion. This is  a money league that their fans.

College football is suppose to be an amateur sport, yet you would want to make it all about money.

You are the same ones that decry student athletes when they get extra money for themselves. Yet  you would still want the players to be amateurs. Look at the public out cry of the Bush situation, as well as the situation with Ohio State and the Cam Newton shopping around by his father. We all know what is happening now at Oregon and Miami

Those things would cease to be isolated  and more common place with the more money that would be involved. Betting in Las Vegas and Atlantic City would increase along with the boosters and unsavory characters trying to get the right players in the right schools.  

Apparently you can’t see that a national championship would be even more devastating to college sports.

There would be more of those that would be willing to pay to get into the national championship game and do more illegal things to accomplish this goal?


Since: Mar 28, 2009
Posted on: September 4, 2011 12:16 pm

Oklahoma's 'sole focus' is Pac-12

I think everyone's missing the big picture. If you can get to four 'Super Conferences', then it will be much easier to format a playoff system. A lot of these BCS Bowls of today are going to get used to the fact that they will be selecting at large teams instead of conference champions. The demand to watch two non conference winners will not be high, thereby lowering the guaranteed money for the schools. However, the money to watch two 'Super Conference' champions play will be enormous. Now that the Big XII is going up in smoke, we just got to figure out the other conference (Big East, ACC) that will be scavenged from by the remaining 'Super Conferences' (SEC, Big Ten, PAC-12, and whomever is left). The NCAA, left with a bunch of meaningless BCS Bowl games, will be forced into agreeing to a playoff system, because the guaranteed money will definitely lean in that direction.

Since: Oct 9, 2006
Posted on: September 4, 2011 3:28 am

Oklahoma's 'sole focus' is Pac-12

Don't forget Utah is PAC-12 now, Utes have played in the Fiesta Bowl and the Sugar Bowl in the last 8 years and won both, and thumped SEC power Alabama!

Since: Jan 3, 2007
Posted on: September 4, 2011 2:39 am

Oklahoma's 'sole focus' is Pac-12


So by not even addressing the Sagarin conclusion - which takes into account all of the bowl games- that the Pac-10 was the better conference,  you utterly concede the point. Feel free to cherry pick games wherever you like, but the fact remains that you've still cherry picked stats. Sagarin took into account every game played.

But since you want to bring up bowl games and compare the conferences, guess which conference wins the Pac-10/SEC matchups most often? That's right, it's the Pac-10.




You might want to start looking at the whole picture. Like how the SEC fattens up it's schedule with pathetic schedules that include massive amounts of lower division opponents. How they set it up to only need 2 wins in conference to become bowl eligible. How they refuse to play decent competition on the road. These things matter.

The SEC takes the cheap way out and uses every scheduling, home field, and lesser opposition trick they can get away with. Despite these parlor tricks, the fact remains that when the rubber hits the road, the Pac-10 beats the SEC more often than not.

Feel free to keep researching. Perhaps you'll find more information than your current tunnel vision allows. Because if you are telling the truth and you are not an SEC homey, you will start to look at these things and include them into your argument instead of simply finding whatever pieces might support your SEC biased outlook.

Since: Jun 21, 2010
Posted on: September 3, 2011 11:01 pm

Oklahoma's 'sole focus' is Pac-12

And in Dallas this year 4th quarter, LSU 33, Oregon 13

Since: Jun 21, 2010
Posted on: September 3, 2011 10:26 pm

Oklahoma's 'sole focus' is Pac-12

" Don "

In bowl games on January 1 thru January 10, the SEC went 5-1 and the PAC went 1-1 losing in the BCS Championship to the SEC ( Auburn and Oregon ).

I'll break this down for you.

Cotton Bowl LSU 41     &nb
sp;     &n
bsp;  Texas A&M 24
Sugar Bowl  Ohio St 31     &nb
sp;   Arkansas 26
Gator Bowl   Miss St 52     &nb
sp;    Michigan 14
Capital 1    Alabama 49     &nb
sp;  Mich St   7
Outback     Florida  37     &nb
sp;    Penn St  24
; Stanford 40     &nb
sp;   Va Tech  12

There were 12 bowls in this time span, and the SEC fielded 6 teams in those games winning 5 of them.  The PAC fielded 2.  For the bowl season last year, prior to January 1 the SEC and PAC fielded:

Alamo Bowl     Oklahoma St  36     &nb
sp; Arizona 10
Holiday    &nbs
p;      Washington 19     &nb
sp;    Nebraska 7

Music City     &
nbsp; UNC     &n
bsp;    30     &nb
sp;     Tenn      27 2 OT
;     &nbs
p; UCF     &n
bsp;     10     &nb
sp;     Georgia   6

I am not an SEC homer.  I just look at what I see.  Where are the rest of the PAC teams?  The only PAC teams in a bowl last year are the ones I listed.  Half of the conference did not go to bowls, so I do not know where that is coming from.  What you could say is that the SEC sent half, or almost half the conference to bowls last year.

The PAC may have played the most difficult schedule, but that does not make the PAC the best football conference.  All that tells me is that they lose a lot.    I do my OWN research.  " Superstar " ranking ?  LOL

Since: Jan 3, 2007
Posted on: September 3, 2011 8:33 pm

Oklahoma's 'sole focus' is Pac-12

If Oklahoma joins the PAC the credibility of the conference is certainly raised.  Dare we say Oklahoma becomes the best football school in the conference.  Oregon is still viewed as a new kid on the block, though successful.  USC is down for now, but although young, will field a top team in the next couple of years.  Stanford is riding the talent of Luck, but when he leaves the team is a shell of what they had for the past four years.  The remaining teams are " role players ".  If the PAC can land Oklahoma ( and Oklahoma State ), they really need to.  It is football that makes the cash for the conferences, and the PAC does not have much going for it other than Oregon and Stanford since USC cannot go to a bowl.  The remaining teams in the Big 12 need to figure out where they can land.

You really don't bother doing any actual research before blithely stating this kind of nonsense, do you?

According to Jeff Sagarin in 2010, the Pac-10 was the strongest conference in college football. In addition to that, Pac-10 teams played the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, and tenth hardest schedules in all of college football.

You heard that right. There isn't a single team in any conference anywhere who played a tougher schedule than the easiest schedule played by a Pac-10 team in 2010.

Despite this monumental degree of difficulty, the Pac-10 put two teams into BCS bowls and over half the conference in bowl games.

The Pac-12 doesn't need Oklahoma or Oklahoma State. They would be welcome additions if that happens, but make no mistake - the Pac-12 is already the strongest conference in the country. The numbers back that up in spades.

Jeff Sagarin NCAA football ratings - 2010


Since: Sep 21, 2010
Posted on: September 3, 2011 8:32 pm

Oklahoma's 'sole focus' is Pac-12

Texas greed (Longhorn Network) is coming back to gore them in the a$$ Wink

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