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MWC, CUSA discuss first super, duper conference

Posted on: September 19, 2011 8:48 pm
Edited on: September 19, 2011 11:09 pm
 
Don't you dare try to copyright the latest (possible} conference on the horizon.

I'm calling it the Big Country.

CBSSports.com has learned that merger talks have heated up again between the Mountain West and Conference USA on a possible 22-to-24-team combination that would span the country and result in an automatic BCS bowl berth for the winner of the amalgamation.

As CBSSports.com initially reported, officials from each conference first discussed the arrangement last year. Each league would produce individual champions who would then play off in a championship game for the BCS berth. Officials from each conference have met recently on the subject CBSSports.com also learned.

There are complications. The Mountain West is still waiting to learn if it will receive temporary BCS status in 2012 and 2013 as a result of meeting a series of benchmarks over a four-year period that concludes after this season. Aside from that, with conference realignment in full swing, college athletics' first super, duper conference just might work. Assuming the remains of the Big East and Big 12 merge, there will be one less automatic BCS berth. The Big Country snatch that up, spanning from the Carolinas, Florida and Mississippi to Texas and the West Coast and Hawaii.

There were no details on how the champions in the individual conferences would be decided. Conference USA is a 12-team league, that is decided by a championship game between the two division winners. The Mountain West is currently an eight-team league that will be 10 teams in 2012. It is losing TCU to the Big East next year and getting Nevada, Hawaii and Fresno from the WAC. It's not clear if the conference would or could expand further to 12 teams.

"It would strengthen our league and give us more television sets," said an administrator from the possible Big Country. "I think it's a big picture thing for us."

Using the current configuration, think of a Boise State-Central Florida Big Country champ game for a berth in, say, Orange or Fiesta Bowl. Not sure how the Orange or Fiesta feel about that. That's another blog for another time.
Comments

Since: May 14, 2008
Posted on: September 20, 2011 12:18 pm
 

MWC, CUSA discuss first super, duper conference

Well said regarding the BCS title game, it is a joke.  I do like the 16 team leagues though.  BUT, the BCS is setup to lean heavily toward the SEC every year, that is a fact.  One SEC each year will more than likely play in the BCS title game by beating up on approximately 7-8 very average opponents and then the 4 or so really good SEC teams battle each other until one eventually is at the very least 11-1 and has a high enough ranking for the title game.  It is such a horrible way to win a NATIONAL TITLE.  Auburn was good last season but should have lost to Clemson on their home field.  I am sorry but I don't think any team that wins their league title and then wins ONE GAME against a team from another quality conference on a neurtal field is all of a sudden the absolute best.  I think an 8 or 16 team playoff would satisfy everyone and make people feel like the team that wins it actually deserves it.



Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: September 20, 2011 11:42 am
 

MWC, CUSA discuss first super, duper conference

I believe it is morally wrong and I believe the big conferences are doing the 16 team conference thing to keep more money for themselves and not share it with the MWC, Conf USA, WAC, MAC and Sun Belt.     The dreams of the Mountain West to join BCS is only a dream.  If they make the AQ status or if Boise ST ever makes it to the title game the BCS will magically disappear and re-appear as something else that will not allow those small conferences to be an equal.    It is sad that is the case, I wish we had a fair playoff system in College Footbal that all 120 teams have a chance in August to win the national championship by winning all their games on the schedule and in a playoff.  



Since: Sep 20, 2011
Posted on: September 20, 2011 9:20 am
 

MWC, CUSA discuss first super, duper conference

why is everyone making this so complicated sounding.  Sounds like a good idea to me.  The two conferences stay independant & keep scheduling like they are, the winner of each conference plays a game against the other confrence for the right to go to a BCS game...better system than we have now where C-USA, MWC & all the other 'mid-majors' are put in a recruiting disadvantage b/c they don't have an automatica BCS spot without winning out. 



Since: Aug 6, 2007
Posted on: September 20, 2011 8:33 am
 

MWC, CUSA discuss first super, duper conference

"A few guys sell their own trinkets at Ohio State, and all hell breaks loose because of the supposed "purity" of the game."

CavsFanInNW....you seem to be another guy that just doesn't "get it".  All hell did not break loose because they sold some trinkets.  The scandal was not about some trinkets.  It was about the head coach lying to the NCAA, covering up illegal activities, lying some more....
You don't lie to the NCAA.  Had he come clean, they would have been suspended a few games, everything would have been over....but by lying, it opened up a can of worms.

Also, college football does not "benefit" from those matchups.  Do you really think that they are doing these things now in the best interest of college football....They are looking at the end result...Money.  Which is sad....They obviously are not taking into account the costs of travel for every other sport.  I realize football brings in the most dough and pays for alot of the smaller sports, but you may see universities lose some programs



Since: Dec 20, 2006
Posted on: September 20, 2011 5:49 am
 

MWC, CUSA discuss first super, duper conference

At this point it has just gotten plain ridiculous. I love collegiate sports and can't really get enough. But  what happened to loyalty and good common sense over greed? I don't even know what else needs be said about the mockery all this realignment crap has led to.




Since: Jan 22, 2007
Posted on: September 20, 2011 2:33 am
 

MWC, CUSA discuss first super, duper conference

Not the worst idea I've ever heard.
Not by a long shot.  How many of these teams were more deserving of a BCS bid than UConn last year?  I'm surprised it's taken this long to come to this, though I will admit I figured it would have been the WAC and MWC that combined originally, but with the MWC getting the best of the WAC already, it basically is.  

It ought to be interesting how this would work out since there is no chance that every team could play each other in any reasonable span of time.  I still think with only 12 games a year, 12 is the biggest a conference should aspire towards in any attempt at equality.  With 12 teams a team could do as the B10 and PAC were planning to do and play 9 IC games and 3 OOC games, thus only 2 teams wouldn't be played in any given year.  With 14, that number jumped to 4, and with 16, we'll be at 6, and with 20+?  This is like making the entire season into a playoff for a division or something.  2 10-12 team divisions playing each other and than a CCG to decide who's the best.  What is CFB becoming?
Like I said, it would be more like a partnership than a true merger.  Have the MWC play an MWC schedule, the CUSA play a CUSA schedule, and have the winner of each conference face-off in a Championship Game



Since: Dec 10, 2007
Posted on: September 20, 2011 2:14 am
 

MWC, CUSA discuss first super, duper conference

Good luck selling that 12 hour plane flight from Central Florida to Hawaii to recruits.

Exactly. I don't know of any 18yr old kids who would want to go to Hawaii. 

Don't all these non-AQ schools know their role?  How dare they look out for themselves.  UCF should stick to playing FIU, FAU, Troy; East Carolina should be playing Appalachian State and Marshall; Boise State should stick to playing Idaho and Montana. 


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Since: Oct 1, 2006
Posted on: September 20, 2011 2:03 am
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Since: Mar 6, 2010
Posted on: September 20, 2011 2:01 am
 

MWC, CUSA discuss first super, duper conference

Nothing would get me more excited than anticipating that pivotal Central Florida-Hawaii showdown. I've about had it with college football. A few guys sell their own trinkets at Ohio State, and all hell breaks loose because of the supposed "purity" of the game. Meanwhile, these greedy bastards who run these universities and conferences are throwing any semblance of purity out the window in the quest for "more TV sets". Tell me how a yearly game pitting Ohio State against Rutgers (which could happen), or East Carolina vs. Boise State (another potential) benefits college football? College football's fame has been built around it's REGIONAL rivalries like Ohio State-Michigan, or Alabama-Auburn, or Florida-Florida State, etc. Good luck selling that 12 hour plane flight from Central Florida to Hawaii to recruits. All of this crap is just assinine, and is a perfect example of what happens when a bunch of guys with Ph. D's are given the keys to the car.



Since: Sep 5, 2011
Posted on: September 20, 2011 12:39 am
 

MWC, CUSA discuss first super, duper conference

I don't know if this would happen or not, there seems to be a small amount of buzz about it.  What is aggravating is that UCF and GOL seem to be sitting quiet and watching how things fold.  I see no lobbying for our school by him or the school in general.  I know we are new to the scene by joining CONF USA in 05 but since we did we have had fairly good showings, 3 division titles and 2 conf titles.  Not bad for a 5 year stretch with ECU winning the other two.  A good school in its own right.  If this did happen, I just don't see UCF ever playing HI, that is just too far for the students to travel even if it was for a division title game.  Bowl game I can see that but the division title game, no way. 

Don't get me wrong, i am UCF Alumn and live in HI and would love nothing more than to root for my team in that horrible stadium they have on Oahu.  Fricken disaster waiting to happen..but this just doesn't seem viable, the BE is done, the B12 is done.  I think they will merge and pull away top teams from CUSA, I just don't see CUSA merging, even if they did all the good teams will have been taken away so no one would pay us attention anyway. 

UCF is screwed for now due to its lack of history.  Eventually we will get to the big time but I don't see it happening for a few more years. GOD I HOPE I AM WRONG.  If we continue to win back to back title games and have seasons like last year then we can't be ignored.  We have to get deep into the top 25 and stay there before anyone will take us seriously.  Right now we're just an afterthought that can't be taken seriously when we have losses to schools like FIU.  I am a knight fan through and through and am proud to have gone to UCF but I am frustrated like the rest of us knights and want a change now.  Time will tell....



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