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Source: Big 12 best to stay at 9

Posted on: September 30, 2011 12:40 am
Edited on: September 30, 2011 12:53 am
 

The Big 12 should not expand in order to maximize its earning power, a source intimately involved in the conference's TV negotiations told CBSSports.com on Thursday.

"If it were me I'd try to stay where I am," said the source. "Nine months ago they had the same money for 10 teams. Is anything going to change if they have nine?"

Texas A&M's formal departure to the SEC this week reduced the Big 12 to nine teams. Missouri is still contemplating whether also to pursue membership in the SEC. With nine teams, the source said, not only would the conference get an expected windfall for its primary rights fees following the 2015 season, it would provide nine more non-conference games as inventory.

"That's more attractive to the networks than BYU-Iowa State," said source who did not want to be identified because of his relationship with the league.

BYU is widely speculated to be joining the Big 12 should it expand. A nine-team league would allow the Big 12 to keep playing a round-robin conference schedule (eight games) while scheduling four non-conference games. The league currently plays a nine-game conference schedule with three non-conference games.

Both Fox and ESPN committed to saving the league in 2010 after the Pac-12 almost raided the Big 12 of half of its team. The 10 remaining schools were guaranteed approximately $20 million each when the conference's primary rights deal with ESPN expired after the 2015-16 academic year.

Fox began to fulfill that promise when the league agreed to a $1.13 billion deal for 13 years for its secondary rights earlier this year. The source said neither Fox nor ESPN were going pay less than promised in 2010 for the Big 12 at nine teams, or perhaps even eight teams. It's not clear if Fox or ESPN have a cancellation clause of their contracts if league membership falls below a certain number.

Staying at nine, said the source, would make it easier for conference schools to get to that $20 million per-team plateau. For example, with nine teams the new Fox deal alone is worth $9.6 million per team. In the latest round of conference realignment schools either are a "brand" or have markets. While more teams would bring more inventory (games) to bid on, the question is: Would each new school bring $20 million to the table individually?

The Big 12 has a long way to go before answering that question. It hasn't been determined whether the schools have committed their primary media rights to the conference for six years. That would essentially hold the conference together but no one is quite sure where that issue stands. Oklahoma president David Boren said a week all the remaining schools had agreed. Missouri chancellor Brady Deaton merely said the issue was being discussed.

The Missouri board of curators will reportedly meet on Tuesday. The board could merely empower Deaton to seek another conference although there is no indication which way the school is leaning.

Big 12 expansion speculation is all over the map -- from staying at nine to going to 16 teams.

 

 

 

 

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Since: Jun 10, 2010
Posted on: September 30, 2011 9:05 am
 

Source: Big 12 best to stay at 9

@usbummer

Please send us a copy of that link!

I don't know if I believe the BIG XII will hold at nine.  DeLoss wants 10 teams and Castiglione is pushing to get back to 12.  It will come down to a conference vote.

Mizzou may jump ship next Tuesday.



Since: Aug 13, 2011
Posted on: September 30, 2011 9:03 am
 

Source: Big 12 best to stay at 9

I disagree with you Dodd. I think the Big 12 needs to add BYU as fast as possible. Many of the blogs on the Deseret News site seem to agree. The sooner (like RIGHT NOW) the better, if BYU can be convinced that we are stable. Keeping Missouri in the Big 12 will go a long way toward reinforcing that image. I then think we should return to 12 by the start of next football season. I would add Boise State to the North. According to Deseret News, the games between BYU and Boise State have been extended for the next quarter of a century. That is a budding rivalry which, if properly marketed by the Big 12, could draw in a MUCH bigger TV audience than your cited BYU / ISU. It won't rival the Red River Rivalry, the old Turkey Bowl, or even the Bedlam Series - yet.

I would then add South Florida to the South. It is a very large public university and would open up a vast new football-crazed state to Big 12 recruiting. (Adding another Texas team won't). It would provide Florida homies with three conferences instead of two from which to choose. Florida (SEC), Florida State (ACC) or South Florida (Big 12). Yes, the travel expenses would be big, especially on the occasion when Boise State may have to travel to South Florida, but if this brought in quality recruits to the Big 12, would that not help compensate? 

If we then decided to expand to 14 we could look to West Virginia to the South (helping South Florida's travel expenses) and, perhaps Cincinnati or Louisville to the North. They would certainly help the Big 12's (14's?) basketball program, if not occasionally produce a football team.

Oh, and CBSSports.com, how about adding a spell check feature to your blog sites?

Just one man's opinion. 



Since: Aug 16, 2011
Posted on: September 30, 2011 8:50 am
 

Source: Big 12 best to stay at 9

Playing a round robin schedule is definitely a positive, but do they really think that a 9-team conference is stronger than having 12 teams?




Since: Sep 6, 2008
Posted on: September 30, 2011 8:49 am
 

Source: Big 12 best to stay at 9

thats because nobody wants to board the Titanic and no leage will take any of the remaining teams.



Since: Aug 13, 2011
Posted on: September 30, 2011 8:48 am
 

Source: Big 12 best to stay at 9

To Stevephoenix:

"To but it to the Big 12 schools and there fans is that you guys suck and can't compete with the likes of the Pac-12, Big 10, or the SEC."

Wow, what a misconception. A competing web site intimately associated with the Texas TV contract published a graph recently comparing all the football conferences. It considered such things as wins against non-conference opponents, national championships, bowl wins, etc. It was a combination of an AP poll and a computerized ranking system. It then assigned a number to each conference for comparative purposes. It is interesting to note that the conferences were bunched together into three distinct groups. I will list them in order of their ranking. Read them and weep:

FIRST TIER:

1. Big 12 (95.9)
2. SEC (93.2)

SECOND TIER

3. Big 10 (62.3)
4. PAC 12 (61.0)
5. ACC (59.9)
6. MWC (56.2)
7. Big East (50.2)

THIRD TIER

8. C-USA (18.2)
9. MAC (14.0)
10. Sun Belt (13.6)
11. WAC (12.7)

Now please publish your non-biased analytical hypothesis that the Big 12 schools and there [sic] suck and can't compete with the likes of the Number 2 listed conference or the other two 2nd tier conferences as indicated on this chart. (possessive "their"). 

Oh, and CBSSports.com, could you please consider putting a spell check on your blog sites? 



Since: Mar 12, 2008
Posted on: September 30, 2011 8:42 am
 

Source: Big 12 best to stay at 9

That's more attractive to the networks than BYU-Iowa State," said source who did not want to be identified because of his relationship with the league.

Yeah because Baylor -Louisiana Tech, or Texas-Elon is exactly what Fox and ESPN are looking for to fill the schedule.
This was my exact thought when reading this. With all of the other conferences growing and losing non-conference games....who exactly is the Big 12 going to put on their non-conference slate?

This mentality also suggests that these Big 12 non-conference games will be home games, and therefore belong to Fox to televise the games. If the Big 12 is going to load their schedule with one and dones, or two for one contracts to facilitate 7-8 home games a year per team, which caliber of teams will they be? I doubt Fox can even "power broker" big home and homes the way ESPN and CBS have done lately.

The four game non-conference schedule will be loaded with FCS and non-AQ teams. But yes...they will have the rights to televise these games.



Since: Sep 6, 2009
Posted on: September 30, 2011 8:18 am
 

Source: Big 12 best to stay at 9

Of course the Big12(-) is going to say that, its called spin control.



Since: Nov 16, 2006
Posted on: September 30, 2011 7:24 am
 

Source: Big 12 best to stay at 9

"That's more attractive to the networks than BYU-Iowa State," said source who did not want to be identified because of his relationship with the league.

Yeah because Baylor -Louisiana Tech, or Texas-Elon is exactly what Fox and ESPN are looking for to fill the schedule.




Since: Nov 29, 2006
Posted on: September 30, 2011 7:12 am
 

Source: Big 12 best to stay at 9

Translation:  Go away TCU. Nobody wants you.



Since: Oct 1, 2007
Posted on: September 30, 2011 6:29 am
 

Source: Big 12 best to stay at 9

That's a great idea, cause being in a small conference has worked so well for the Big East in both quality of football and sustainability.



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