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Big 12 moves closer to unity, or does it?

Posted on: October 3, 2011 12:02 pm
Edited on: October 3, 2011 1:33 pm

The Big 12 sent out an encouraging press release Monday morning.

But that’s all it was: encouraging.

The league said the conference board of directors “announced adoption of a position” to share revenue from primary football and basketball television deals. Without getting into the details, this is exactly what Oklahoma president David Boren said had occured 10 days ago. It’s also what Missouri chancellor Brady Deaton put in doubt a few minutes later when he said only that the matter was being “discussed.”

Essentially, nothing has changed. None of this is formal until each individual school adopts the policy. It seems that Texas is on board, although sharing of Longhorn Network revenue continues to be non-negotiable. How each school goes about addressing the issue differs. Interim Big 12 commissioner Chuck Neinas indicated it was something other than a rubber stamp.

When asked if each school would formally adopt the all-in rights plan, he said: "I hope so" 

It seems that Missouri is on board, at least philosophically -- for now. But there is one, giant, pregnant question still out there. What good is an “adoption of a position” if Missouri doesn’t actually stay in the conference? The SEC remains an option, a big one. Missouri fans are reportedly lobbying administrators heavily via email to leave the contentious Big 12.

The Missouri board of curators meets Tuesday at noon. The board could go as far as empowering chancellor Brady Deaton to seek admission to another conference. That would make Monday's press release fairly worthless.

It's still an issue that Deaton continues to serve as Big 12 board chairman and is a member of the expansion committee. That could be a perceived a conflict with Deaton serving two masters while Missouri evaluates its options.

Neinas said Deaton recused himself from a part of a Sunday conference meeting on the advice of his legal counsel. Meanwhile, the lobbying goes on. 

"It's one thing to talk about Southeastern Conference," Neinas said, "but how many people are going to be able to afford to travel to Gainesville, Fla. or Tuscaloosa, Ala.? John Q. Fan can get in the car and drive to Big 12 games. Besides, Missouri is Midwestern school, not a Southern school."

Category: NCAAF
Tags: Big 12, Missouri

Since: Nov 11, 2008
Posted on: October 6, 2011 12:55 am

Big 12 moves closer to unity, or does it?

I'm a Tiger fan hoping that Chuck the Commish can work a miracle and get the LHN rolled into ESPNDallas and then a new B12 Network should take it's place.

From what I hear, demand from UT fans for this content has been lackluster.  UT has so much to gain from doing this, without losing all that much money, like strengthening the conference.

One option I've heard is that the B12 Network be formed anyway.  Any team that opts to keep 100% of it's tier 3 does not get a slice of the conference network money. Call it tier 4. The majority of the teams will pass it, and then the ball is back in Texas' court.

I don't want them to run us off like cowboys and indians. We were here since 1907. Texas may be the 500 pound gorilla but we outnumber them 8-1. Right?

JackMO Rob

Since: Oct 5, 2011
Posted on: October 5, 2011 12:13 pm

Big 12 moves closer to unity, or does it?

Souperman, are you saying that the Big 10 added Nebraska in part because of its academic reputation? C'mon. What Nebraska brings to the table is football $$$, and that is all that got them into your esteemed conference--plain and simple. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Nebaska the only Big 10 school that is not a member of the AAU? In fact, weren't they just booted out of the association (first time ever a school has been ousted) and didn't Big 10 "colleagues" Michigan and Wisconsin vote against them? How's that for strong conference relationships. But in the end, it's all about football. Nebraska makes the Big 10 weaker academically, but it doesn't matter because the conference is stronger on the grid iron.

Since: Aug 31, 2011
Posted on: October 5, 2011 11:05 am

Big 12 moves closer to unity, or does it?

Good post Souperman. Thanks!

Since: Jan 19, 2008
Posted on: October 4, 2011 9:17 am

Big 12 moves closer to unity, or does it?

I've worked at a Big 10 university for 30 years, and you are actually mistaken in your point of view. For sure, the realignment thing is being driven by money. No argument. But for the Big 10 and ACC, two factors have to align: athletic income and academic reputation. For the Big 12, this is not as much of an issue, granted. For the SEC, it is not an issue at all. What you apparently don't realize is that a Big 10 university, for example, may receive *hundreds of millions of dollars* a year in research grants, and that the university gets to keep 50% off the top of most grants just for overhead! Those numbers dwarf the income of any athletic department. Only a handful of athletic departments in the NCAA even break even. Alumni love football championships. College presidents like those, too, because it keeps the alumni happy. But what the presidents are deeply committed to is maintaining the academic reputation of their university so that they grants and industrial contracts will keep pouring in. If they had to choose, they would drop football in a heartbeat before they would drop research. You may not believe that, but I assure you it is true. And part of academic reputation is based on the company you keep as a university. Conferenece affiliations make collaborative projects much easier, and in research collaboration is the name of the game. Bottom line: conferences that are based around strong academic relationships--which includes the Big 10 and ACC, and to a lesser extent, the Pac--are extremely committed to keeping the academic bar high for member institutions. It's not snobbery. It's about succeeding as a major research university.

Since: Mar 6, 2009
Posted on: October 4, 2011 3:32 am

Big 12 moves closer to unity, or does it?

your right  it s a sucker deal Texas still gets its way 30 million a year for the next 10 years and no spliting with no one plus the 15-20 mill the conference will give Texas in the revenue sharing. What a joke Big 12 needs to get it together. Teams are jumping ship.

Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: October 4, 2011 12:48 am

Big 12 moves closer to unity, or does it?

Although Deaton wants Missouri to stay in the Big 12, he sees the writing on the wall.
He knows that Pinkel, Alden, and the Board of Curators want to take the sure thing and go to the SEC.

In turn, the SEC wants access to the St. Louis and Kansas City television markets.
If Missouri's Board of Curators gives approval to Deaton on Tuesday to look elsewhere, the SEC will likely have their 14th team soon.

Since: Aug 28, 2006
Posted on: October 3, 2011 10:52 pm

Big 12 moves closer to unity, or does it?

Within the year this will be a nonissue when the SEC Network is in place with ESPN.

Since: Nov 29, 2006
Posted on: October 3, 2011 10:32 pm

Big 12 moves closer to unity, or does it?

Don't understand all of these posts touting academics. Are we talking sthletics or academics here? If academics are the big thing, then wouldn't logic dictate that the Ivy League is the premiere sports conference? Game. Set. Match. Ivy rules. If, those academic snobs reply that the Ivy League doesn't count, then I would counter with Stanford and Duke. Under the academic logic,  Stanford and Duke must be the greatest athletic programs in the country. No contest. Stanford and Duke rule. So STFU all you Big 12 and B1G posers. Nobody cares that your school is proudly ranked #43 and another conference school is ranked #56. Comparatively, you all suck compared to Stanford, Duke, or the Ivies. So STFU.

Since: Sep 21, 2011
Posted on: October 3, 2011 10:19 pm

Big 12 moves closer to unity, or does it?

SEC also does not share Tier 3 funds.  Florida makes over $7 million per year.  SEC has the same exact rule that the Big 12 just adopted.  Are you calling your conference "completely ingnorange"?

Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: October 3, 2011 10:00 pm

Big 12 moves closer to unity, or does it?

Radificatiion of the agreement requires signing over the school's Tier I and Tier II broadcast rights for six years. No school will leave without their TV rights. Missouri will either radify the pact and remain comitted or they will notify of withdrawal.

At this time Missouri is a better fit in the Big XII. The geogrphic boundaries are more conducive and the traditional recruiting grounds are in the Big XII. The Border War games with Kansas are a huge draw in Kansas City for football and the basketball games are always sold out. Missouri also has a difference in academics over the SEC. I think Missouri stays.

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