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Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

Posted on: October 20, 2011 11:29 am
Edited on: October 20, 2011 1:04 pm
 

A formal 16-team college football playoff worth at least $650 million has been proposed by Mountain West commissioner Craig Thompson.

CBSSports.com obtained information from the document that was distributed to the 10 other Football Bowl Subdivision commissioners. It proposes that a human committee would rank 30 teams at the end of the season to help select the 16-team field. Those rankings would determine the 1-through-16 seedings. At least six Football Bowl Subdivision (formerly Division I-A) conference champions would be in the field. There would be a maximum of three teams per conference.

Thompson had an eight-team playoff proposal rejected by the BCS in 2009. With the current BCS agreement ending after the 2014 bowls, there is an opening for suggestions for new postseason models. BCS executive director Bill Hancock did not immediately comment.

Thompson's proposal was sent to those 10 other FBS commissioners, Notre Dame and Hancock.

Under his proposal, first-round games would be played the week after conference championship games (usually the second week of December).  The games would be played at the home stadium of the top eight seeds. The quarterfinals would follow on Jan. 1 or 2 at the four major bowl sites -- Orange, Sugar, Fiesta and Rose.

The semifinals would be played at the stadium of the two highest-seeded remaining schools. Bowls could bid on hosting the championship game.

Financial bonuses would be awarded to participating conferences based on performance in the NCAA's Academic Performance Rate. There is also a clause that would allocate $50 million "to address issues of integrity in intercollegiate athletics."

Several playoff scenarios have been proposed by commercial entities. The NCAA even explored the possibly in the mid-1990s before dropping the idea.

The Arizona Republic interviewed Thompson about his proposal on Wednesday.However, CBSSports.com was able to obtain specific detailed information about the proposal.

The FBS commissioners were to discuss Thompson's proposal at a previously scheduled meeting Sept. 20 in Chicago. But conference realignment issues forced the meeting to be cancelled.

Information from the document details the revenue windfall long anticipated from a playoff. Under Thompson's plan, a conference would receive $25 million for each top eight seed it had in the field. For seeds 9 through 16, the revenue would decrease by $2 million in descending order. For example, the conference of the No. 9 seed would get $23 million, No. 10 seed, $21 million, etc.

Conferences would then receive $20 million for each team that reaches the quarterfinals (round of eight). The remainder of the revenue from the semifinals and championship would be distributed this way: Two shares for each for each of the semifinal winners. One share for each for the semifinal losers. Each of those shares, according to information in the document would exceed $25 million.

According to a source, Thompson also asked for support from the so-called "group of five" non-BCS conferences to support and promote the proposal. There was no consensus of support from those four other leagues -- Conference USA, WAC, MAC and Sun Belt -- according to the source.

The Mountain West at least is staying in the news. Thompson's league and Conference USA announced an alliance on Friday. The champions of each league -- soon to be a 22-team consortium -- would play each other, the winner of which would theoretically get an automatic BCS bowl bid. Both leagues are currently non-automatic qualifiers for BCS bowls.

They have received no assurance that they would receive an automatic bid under the new arrangement. The current BCS agreement runs through the 2014 bowls (2013 season). The champions of each BCS league (Pac-12, Big 12, Big East, ACC, SEC, Big Ten) are guaranteed a BCS bowl. That leaves four other spots filled by second teams from BCS leagues. Notre Dame and non-BCS league champions can also qualify by meeting certain benchmarks.

 

 

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Comments

Since: Oct 8, 2009
Posted on: October 20, 2011 1:37 pm
 

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

A 16-team playoff is the most ideal format to have.  Rank all 11 conference champions...allow for 5 at-large bids.  Sorry Notre Dame....Join a conference because you aren't a relevant football program as an independent.  No conference is allowed more than 2 teams. 

The first round matchups and who they would play in each succeeding round:
#1 vs #11
#6 vs #16

#4 vs #8
#13 vs #14

#2 vs #10
#5 vs #7

#3 vs #9
#12 vs #15

highest seeded teams host their first round game

7 Bowls then can bid for what game they would like to host in the quarters, semis, and finals.





Since: Mar 15, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2011 1:36 pm
 

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

then suddenly the 2 remaining bowl games become meaningless

ALL the bowls are meaningless...except 1..in the current BCS fiasco



Since: Dec 14, 2006
Posted on: October 20, 2011 1:22 pm
 

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

1 would not face 2 and 3 would not face 4.....do you not understand a round robin tournament? 1 would face 8, 2v7, 3v6, 4v5.....all the bowls would be relevant! We need a playoff, that fact that the D2 schools do it shows it can be done....the only difference is the money and greed!




Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2011 1:16 pm
 

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

Sorry, not sure what happened to my quote box....

If 2 of the bowls are selected for #1 vs. #4 and #2 vs. #3 then suddenly the 2 remaining bowl games become meaningless.
  
For over a decade, the BCS rotated the championship game through the 4 major bowls.  Did the BCS CG render the other 3 bowls as meaningless?  Hardly.  In my scenario, two of the BCS bowls would host  1-4 and 2-3 matchups.  It would be business as usual for the other 2 bowls.

Also, in my scenario, any school that does not make it out of the first two playoff rounds would be eligible for the remaining bowl spots.  Not to mention, the BCS would be free to add another bowl to the mix.  There has been a push for adding the Cotton, Gator or Capital One for quite some time.  That would help smooth over any conference tie-in issues.



Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2011 1:13 pm
 

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

 If 2 of the bowls are selected for #1 vs. #4 and #2 vs. #3 then suddenly the 2 remaining bowl games become meaningless.  

For over a decade, the BCS rotated the championship game through the 4 major bowls.  Did the BCS CG render the other 3 bowls as meaningless?  Hardly.  In my scenario, two of the BCS bowls would host  1-4 and 2-3 matchups.  It would be business as usual for the other 2 bowls.

Also, in my scenario, any school that does not make it out of the first two playoff rounds would be eligible for the remaining bowl spots.  Not to mention, the BCS would be free to add another bowl to the mix.  There has been a push for adding the Cotton, Gator or Capital One for quite some time.  That would help smooth over any conference tie-in issues.




Since: Oct 20, 2011
Posted on: October 20, 2011 1:07 pm
 

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

And the SEC proposes a 16 team playoff between 16 SEC Teams.  The SEC runs college football, not the Mountain West and not the NCAA.  Who's on top of the BCS? Two SEC teams.  Not a coincidence.



Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2011 12:58 pm
 

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

Playoff would be a mess and prove nothing just because a 8-4 team suddently became hot and win it all. 

I doubt many 8-4 teams would ever crack the top-16, so that is a moot point.  The vast majority of the teams in a 16-team field would have 2 losses or less.  It would possible that a 3-loss team could get on a roll and win it all.  I'd say it would merely be a question of time before that happens.



Since: Sep 15, 2010
Posted on: October 20, 2011 12:52 pm
 

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

If you are going to have playoff then it should be a 32-team playoff.  It allows for each conference to have an automatic bid (anywhere from 10-12 spots) and still allow for every school in the final Top 25 to participate in the tournament.  Factoring in conference championship games, that would mean the finalist could end up playing 17 games.  It may sound like a bit much until you figure D-I FCS, D-II, and D-III play anywhere from 14-16 games now.  Also, it gives you more opportunities for a school to make a cinderella run - which is what makes tournaments exciting to watch.

A Plus 1 format does not make any sense.  If the pool of potential BCS finalist is based on the 4 bowl games (Rose, Orange, Sugar, & Fiesta) then it becomes very subjective on which 2 of 4 is choosen.  If one of the bowl games matches #1 vs. #2, then is it fair to either school when the other bowls may have easier match-ups?  If 2 of the bowls are selected for #1 vs. #4 and #2 vs. #3 then suddenly the 2 remaining bowl games become meaningless.  Plus, if one of the bowls is a #1 vs. #2 match-up and the game ends up being an instant classic (i.e. 31-30 - losing team decided to go for the win instead of playing for OT) then what would prevent the BCS from deciding to have a rematch of the bowl game for the BCS NCG; especially if both were clearly the best teams all season?  More than likely because of the bowl tie-ins, the 4 BCS bowl match-ups could end up being something like this:  Orange - #9 vs. #22, Rose - #3 vs. #11, Sugar - #1 vs. #6, and Fiesta - #2 vs. #4 (#5, #7, #8, and #10 were ineligible because they are members of a conference that already represented by 2 teams).



Since: Sep 22, 2007
Posted on: October 20, 2011 12:51 pm
 

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

um most schools break by Dec 15. it's the perfect time for playoff games. No classes to miss.



Since: Oct 14, 2011
Posted on: October 20, 2011 12:43 pm
 

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

8 teams at the most!!!  No conference tie ins.

Use existing BCS system Highest 8 are in.  Get 7 Bowls that want to participate.  Drop Rose bowl if they do not wish to play along.

Championship game is rotated among 7 Bowls.  Cotton Bowl should be added to existing 4 leaving 2 more options to expand.





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