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Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

Posted on: October 20, 2011 11:29 am
Edited on: October 20, 2011 1:04 pm

A formal 16-team college football playoff worth at least $650 million has been proposed by Mountain West commissioner Craig Thompson. obtained information from the document that was distributed to the 10 other Football Bowl Subdivision commissioners. It proposes that a human committee would rank 30 teams at the end of the season to help select the 16-team field. Those rankings would determine the 1-through-16 seedings. At least six Football Bowl Subdivision (formerly Division I-A) conference champions would be in the field. There would be a maximum of three teams per conference.

Thompson had an eight-team playoff proposal rejected by the BCS in 2009. With the current BCS agreement ending after the 2014 bowls, there is an opening for suggestions for new postseason models. BCS executive director Bill Hancock did not immediately comment.

Thompson's proposal was sent to those 10 other FBS commissioners, Notre Dame and Hancock.

Under his proposal, first-round games would be played the week after conference championship games (usually the second week of December).  The games would be played at the home stadium of the top eight seeds. The quarterfinals would follow on Jan. 1 or 2 at the four major bowl sites -- Orange, Sugar, Fiesta and Rose.

The semifinals would be played at the stadium of the two highest-seeded remaining schools. Bowls could bid on hosting the championship game.

Financial bonuses would be awarded to participating conferences based on performance in the NCAA's Academic Performance Rate. There is also a clause that would allocate $50 million "to address issues of integrity in intercollegiate athletics."

Several playoff scenarios have been proposed by commercial entities. The NCAA even explored the possibly in the mid-1990s before dropping the idea.

The Arizona Republic interviewed Thompson about his proposal on Wednesday.However, was able to obtain specific detailed information about the proposal.

The FBS commissioners were to discuss Thompson's proposal at a previously scheduled meeting Sept. 20 in Chicago. But conference realignment issues forced the meeting to be cancelled.

Information from the document details the revenue windfall long anticipated from a playoff. Under Thompson's plan, a conference would receive $25 million for each top eight seed it had in the field. For seeds 9 through 16, the revenue would decrease by $2 million in descending order. For example, the conference of the No. 9 seed would get $23 million, No. 10 seed, $21 million, etc.

Conferences would then receive $20 million for each team that reaches the quarterfinals (round of eight). The remainder of the revenue from the semifinals and championship would be distributed this way: Two shares for each for each of the semifinal winners. One share for each for the semifinal losers. Each of those shares, according to information in the document would exceed $25 million.

According to a source, Thompson also asked for support from the so-called "group of five" non-BCS conferences to support and promote the proposal. There was no consensus of support from those four other leagues -- Conference USA, WAC, MAC and Sun Belt -- according to the source.

The Mountain West at least is staying in the news. Thompson's league and Conference USA announced an alliance on Friday. The champions of each league -- soon to be a 22-team consortium -- would play each other, the winner of which would theoretically get an automatic BCS bowl bid. Both leagues are currently non-automatic qualifiers for BCS bowls.

They have received no assurance that they would receive an automatic bid under the new arrangement. The current BCS agreement runs through the 2014 bowls (2013 season). The champions of each BCS league (Pac-12, Big 12, Big East, ACC, SEC, Big Ten) are guaranteed a BCS bowl. That leaves four other spots filled by second teams from BCS leagues. Notre Dame and non-BCS league champions can also qualify by meeting certain benchmarks.



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Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2011 12:43 pm

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

what part of Dec, do student Athletes take finals, or midterms, any playoff game would have to take place after Jan 1, most schools break for a month during the holidays! 

Playoffs all through December do not pose a problem for the FCS nor any of the lower NCAA levels.  Why would it be any worse in the FBS?

Since: Apr 21, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2011 12:40 pm

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

Keep in mind that if this plan were approved, the upcoming LSU-Alabama game would mean as much as a regular season basketball game between UConn and Pitt.  That is, almost nothing.

Since: Mar 9, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2011 12:31 pm
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Since: Jun 8, 2011
Posted on: October 20, 2011 12:25 pm

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

jngkat - I beleive this is what has stalled the efforts in the past.  While I like this idea, the fact is that the college presidents will shoot this down because exams start in early December and run through mid December.  The dorms close down during the Holiday break for maintenance.  That means you have the start the playoff in January.  Under this scenario, you push the season all the way through the month of January, with the title game being somewhere around January 31st, if not later.  The college president's are already weary of the season length.  IMO, you would have to shorten the regular season in order to accomodate a playoff.

Since: Dec 13, 2007
Posted on: October 20, 2011 12:19 pm

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

Wow the  BCS league (Pac-12, Big 12, Big East, ACC, SEC, Big Ten) will get all of the spots available and the non-BCS conferences (Conference USA, Mountain West, WAC, MAC and Sun Belt) will not get any spots. If you have any kind of winning record you better get your team in a BCS Conference. The non-BCS teams will never play in this playoff system unless the Big East and the ACC teams are subpar.....

Since: Dec 10, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2011 12:18 pm

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

i for one do not like the bcs system but i have given up on the playoff format of 16 or 8 team playoff. for every excuse they give you about "the 17th or 9th" team getting left out we return reasonable answer on why they would be left our why isnt a big deal. the thing people are missing is big name schools ADs are getting good money from the bcs system, the people that like the system are the ones benefiting from it.

like ive always said a 16 team playoff is fine lets be honest if your not in the top10 then you should be happy your getting a chance to compete. in reality there are so many number of ways to do a college playoff but the main reason is aslong as the bcs is around it wont happen esp if the mwc came up with the plan. now let the sec or big12 come up with the plan then......then we might have a chance.

Since: Jun 11, 2010
Posted on: October 20, 2011 12:15 pm

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

what part of Dec, do student Athletes take finals, or midterms, any playoff game would have to take place after Jan 1, most schools break for a month during the holidays! 

Since: Oct 7, 2009
Posted on: October 20, 2011 12:15 pm

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

"Are you kidding me playoffs?  Don't talk about playoffs!"  Excellent idea!  The BCS is going to be a mess and every yr from now until they actually have a playoff someone is going to ge screwed out of a national title shot.  let the teams punch it out on the field instead of having a computer decide who is worthy of the crown.  it seems to work in ncaab every year.  hey if a team with only 9 wins beats an undefeated team, so be it.  may the better team win and on any given saturday in this case!  PLAYOFF!!!!!

Since: Oct 22, 2007
Posted on: October 20, 2011 12:11 pm

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

Playoffs isn't about finding the best 16 teams out there.  Its about finding the #1 team out there.  Pretty sure teams out of the top 10 aren't the number 1 team in the country.

Use current BCS system and take the top 8 teams.

Or top 6 teams in BCS make it to 8 team playoff.  Let teams 7-10 play in a wildcard round to get the 7 and 8 spots.

Or, give top 4 teams a bye, and let the next 8 teams play for the next 4 spots.

No conference tie ins.

Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2011 12:09 pm

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

This is very much similar to the 16-team playoff format I have been calling for over the past few years on these boards.  The one difference here is Craig Thompson is calling for the quarterfinal round to be played in the 4 BCS bowls.  In my scenario, the first two rounds would be played in December, with the highest seed acting as hosts.  Then the semifinal round would be rotated through the BCS bowls and the championship (Plus-1?) would be played a week or two later.

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