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Missouri takes the next step toward SEC

Posted on: October 21, 2011 1:40 pm
Edited on: October 21, 2011 2:27 pm
KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Missouri chancellor Brady Deaton was granted sole authority to negotiate contracts "regarding conference realignment" by the school's board of curators Friday afternoon.

The move seems to be the next incremental step in Missouri removing itself from the Big 12 to go to the SEC. On Oct. 4, the board gave Deaton similar, but narrower authority in seeking a new conference. For the first time on Friday, Deaton did acknowledge communication between Missouri and the SEC. 

Deaton would not put a time frame on Missouri's decision saying only, "we're not putting any immediate timeline on ourselves ... We're not looking at a long time frame."

Meanwhile, a large portion of college football continues to wait on Missouri. The Big East can't move on reconstituting its league until it knows what Missouri is going to do. If Missouri leaves, the Big East may be impacted. Louisville and West Virginia have been mentioned frequently as possible Big 12 replacements. The Big East is also reportedly targeting some Conference USA schools as well.

"The next step will be resolution of the question, final resolution of the question," said curators chair Warren Erdman. "The chancellor has the authority to take all actions necessary to resolve the question."

The board also announced the school would pursue establishing an invitational basketball tournament in Kansas City as well as an annual football game in the city against "a traditional regional rival." The move seems to address concerns over the loss of the Kansas rivalry if Missouri goes to the SEC. Missouri and Kansas have played in football for 119 years and annually at Kansas City's Arrowhead Stadium since 2007. 

The bitter rivals also participate annually in the Big 12 basketball tournament.

The announcement can be interpreted as Missouri throwing Kansas City a bone as it heads out the door. This city will be particularly impacted by Missouri's departure. The Big 12 basketball tournament has been played here, with few exceptions, back to when the conference was formed in 1996. The annual event has a multi-million dollar impact on the city. Missouri's tournament basketball ties with the city go back to the 1970s when the old Big Eight Holiday Tournament was established.

Missouri is considering severing conference ties that go back to 1907 when it joined the old Missouri Valley Conference. That league eventually morphed into the Big Six, Big Seven, Big Eight and Big 12. It has been in the current Big 12 since the conference formed in 1996.

It is known that certain Missouri officials -- and alums and fans -- are tired of the Big 12's instability. Missouri would be the fourth Big 12 school to leave since June 2010. Each had essentially the same reason: Uncertainty about the future. Nebraska was spooked by Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon’s Dec. 2009 comments about the school’s similarities with Big Ten institutions. Colorado AD Mike Bohn said publicly that Missouri’s apparent desire to the be in the Big Ten had caused his school to find a resting place in the Pac-10.

In September, A&M finally ended a contentious relationship with Texas that goes back decades. The flash point was Texas’ launch of the Longhorn Network. But that was merely a symptom, not a cause. If it hadn’t been the LHN, it would have been something else for the Aggies.

The A&M coaches and AD Bill Byrne weren’t necessarily in favor of the move but president R. Bowen Loftin pushed for the migration to the SEC. The SEC wasn’t necessarily looking for expand according to sources but when A&M came calling it was difficult to turn down a brand name in Texas. 

In this case, any negotiation of contracts by Deaton would be subject to review by university counsel. 

Category: NCAAF
Tags: Big 12, Missouri, SEC

Since: Nov 11, 2008
Posted on: October 22, 2011 12:06 am

Missouri takes the next step toward SEC

I'm a Missouri fan who hopes we stay in the B12.  I don't want to leave, for the B1G or SEC.  You comment makes me laugh because OSU had been OU's ugly little cousin during all of this.  Last year you were hanging on their heels as, supposedly, about half of the B12 was headed west.  This year it was OU and OSU together forever, again to the PAC.

I am sure Stillwater is a beautiful town.  Don't take this the wrong way.  You have good teams, plenty of oil money.  Even if all 475,000 of your fans tune it at the same time, you can't bring in the ratings that Missouri can bring in.  There are several cities in Missouri that are bigger than Stillwater.  We aren't the Florida Gators, but Missouri is an AAU research university in a state with 2 large metropolitan cities.  We have been competitive on the field/court.  I think we'll be competitive on Saturday against OSU, by the way.  You guys are top 10, but you are going down. 

The SEC was approached by a very eager and willing A&M.  They took in their 13th team and added the state of Texas.  Now they need #14.  Missouri is in play because we are not OK with leaving our fate up to Texas and Oklahoma.  I think we decided last year that, if we got a chance to improve our situation, we could not let loyalty to a teetering B12 keep us from making the tough call.

Unfortunately I think we are headed that way.  I'm sure it will all work out fine in the end.  I hate to see it happen, but I understand the position that Deaton and the others are in.  This isn't for spite.  If they feel it is in the best interest of the university, the rest of the UM system, and the state, they will take the steps necessary to make it happen.

So you can call us a mid-level team, but I'm proud of my school for making their own way instead of going along for the ride with big sister Oklahoma while she kicks up her heels and flips her skirt trying to get the attention of the PAC-12.

Since: Sep 16, 2006
Posted on: October 21, 2011 11:54 pm

Missouri takes the next step toward SEC

Hog in my field IF I had my doctorate from Harvard or MIT or one of the "premium" AAU colleges I would be getting billions more for my research. Not millions but billions.  Sad but true. I compete against others with thier doctorates from Harvard and MIT and they get the real research money. Me, I barely get enough to pay for my research and have a half decent life.  One man was just awarded 3 billion dollars this year doing the same exact research I am, me well i got 650,000 this year and that would not even pay for the new equipment I need to do it. So yeah, where you get your degrees really matters when your talking about the higher end fields. i used to pride myself with the idea that 1 person in 100,000 actually get these degrees and can do my work, but you know big thrill, I have the degrees and i am here doing what I like doing but I am not afforded the money needed to do it right. So what happens is you share your research with one of these big money researchers and then they get the credit for your work. 

Since: Oct 14, 2011
Posted on: October 21, 2011 11:45 pm

Missouri takes the next step toward SEC

Sure it was implied that Missouri would be going to an inferior SEC as compared to staying in a superior Big 12 or waiting for superior Big 10.  I just pointed out that none of those school's graduates from any of those conferences would get 27% more in salary because of AAU membership. I work with a number of graduate from SMU, Texas and A&M. Even one VP from Florida and none make 27% more than their counterparts.

Now I know why SEC has last 5 National Championships!!! 

Since: Sep 16, 2006
Posted on: October 21, 2011 11:38 pm

Missouri takes the next step toward SEC

Hog ..... The conversation was about what the department of labor said about the wage difference. it said AAU membership schools grads made 27% more than non AAU member ship school grads. Those stas include numerous AAU member schools that are consider premium and they raise that percentage significantly. Nothing was ever said about a Big 10 grad making more, just AAU member grads as a whole and averaged out.

Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: October 21, 2011 11:30 pm

Missouri takes the next step toward SEC

Who cares about Missouri? 

Since: Oct 14, 2011
Posted on: October 21, 2011 11:30 pm

Missouri takes the next step toward SEC

Arkansas is pretty OK but trying to compare it to the Big Ten schools academically is pretty asinine
Where did you see anyone comparing Arkansas academics to any school let along AAU? The belief that anyone at any corporation would make 27% more because they went to a Big 10 school is asinine. If you applied for my job and say you had my same credentials and because you went to say Indiana University you will get 27% more pay on average is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.  That is what the discussions are about.

Since: Sep 16, 2006
Posted on: October 21, 2011 11:26 pm

Missouri takes the next step toward SEC

Hog ... wiki snswers?? you actually used that as your source for information?? The correct answer is in the link I gave you will citations proving correctness. Surely you were educated enough to know that you use credable sources.

Since: Oct 14, 2011
Posted on: October 21, 2011 11:24 pm

Missouri takes the next step toward SEC

PERDUE???? You passed up a chance to go to Perdue???? Now I know your nuts. Man, Perdue is a college you go to no matter the costs if you have a chance. Well I am telling you that and I did pass on doing my post grad work at Harvard for the same reason, money. Its the biggest mistake I ever made too.
When you are a 17 year old kid from Arkansas with only the dream of an Engineering career and confronted with two choices; one of which is 17 hours away from your friends, requiring all types of loans with no guarantees of success, the choice I made to go to the You of A was a very good one for me.  I have been in Dallas since my graduation.  I had three career options out of school, Texas Instruments Sherman, TX, Ford Lorain, OH and Rockwell International Richardson, TX. I chose the latter. Nothing like being a Razorback living in Dallas.  Texas (the State) will soon be SEC Country!!!

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: October 21, 2011 11:22 pm

Missouri takes the next step toward SEC

I just want Missouri to leave - malcontents and crappy fans (and that's coming from an OSU alumni!  Missouri fans are worse than OU fans!)  

Missouri has been squawking for three years and have done everything but actually get a formal invite.

Go to the SEC if they'll have you; you'll be a mid-level team and will actually elevate Vandy's status!   At least you seem to A&M's number lately so maybe you can continue that streak!

Since: Sep 16, 2006
Posted on: October 21, 2011 11:21 pm

Missouri takes the next step toward SEC

Your right tarheel  thats like comparing NC to Duke  lol 

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