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Three senators have been hammering B12 for weeks

Posted on: October 27, 2011 12:08 pm
Edited on: October 27, 2011 11:19 pm
 

The appearance that Louisville and Kentucky Sen. Mitch McConnell made a late push into the Big 12 expansion process this week is not accurate. A source told CBSSports.com that three senators identified Wednesday in national reports have been involved in the process for what was termed "weeks."

McConnell and West Virginia senators Jay Rockefeller and Joe Manchin had all been in contact with at least Oklahoma president David Boren before Wednesday’s messy expansion revelations, the source said. Manchin threatened a Senate investigation if it was proven McConnell was lobbying in Louisville’s favor against West Virginia.

CBSSports.com reported exclusively Wednesday that the Big 12 had a press release ready and at at least two high-ranking conference officials were scheduled to fly to Morgantown, W.V., for the announcement that West Virginia was being accepted into the league. That process hit a snag when Louisville’s prospects improved.

But it wasn’t a last-minute thing. Manchin and Rockefeller have been working for West Virginia while McConnell, a Louisville graduate, supports his university’s fortunes. The Big 12 is seen as brass ring for each to keep continued BCS status.

It is a logical assumption that all three politicos were seeking Boren’s influence in the matter. (A spokeswoman for Manchin's office said Thursday night: "Senator Manchin does not know, has not spoken to or been in contact with President Boren.") Before becoming OU’s president, Boren was Oklahoma governor and a former Oklahoma state senator from 1979-94. The New York Times reported that McConnell had also contacted Texas Tech chancellor Kent Hance, himself a former congressman, to push Louisville.

But Boren -- a political animal of the highest order -- now is central to the expansion discussion. According to a source and at least one report, Oklahoma wants the 10-year grant of rights and Louisville for the Big 12. Texas wants a six-year grant of rights and West Virginia.

The grant of rights is an all-in media rights agreement that the conference would own even if a school left for another league. In other words, if Texas and/or Oklahoma left the Pac-12, the Big 12 would still own its TV rights. The agreement basically bonds a conference together for as long as the grant of rights is in effect.

But the word “bonds” is seldom used in the Big 12. If Missouri eventually leaves for the SEC a huge reason will be the typical conference infighting described above. If adopted, the 10-year grant of rights may give Missouri pause. So may the inclusion of Notre Dame into the Big 12 win everything but football.

Texas apparently is sticking to its six-year preference. Three schools -- Texas A&M, Nebraska and Colorado -- have left the Big 12 since June 2010.

Adding to the incongruity, Missouri is supposedly leaving the conference because of instability. West Virginia/Louisville want in because of stability. Go figure.


Comments

Since: Nov 19, 2008
Posted on: October 28, 2011 1:27 pm
 

Three senators have been hammering B12 for weeks

@wdrkb
No I do not think WVU will dominate the Big 12, but they will be competitive. The bottom line is that for the Big 12 its a wash, for WVU its a benefit and their very good football program will play on a better stage. For Missouri they will go to the SEC and go from being competitive now and again, to being a perpetual doormat, they will be another Kentucky. In a way the SEC has watered down its competition. It has added two average teams, and due to scheduling made it to where the really good schools will go through the season playing weaker schedules. The only thing that may give Missouri a break is that if they are in the East, they may have seasons where they do not play Alabama and LSU.



Since: Oct 21, 2007
Posted on: October 28, 2011 10:19 am
 

Three senators have been hammering B12 for weeks

"WVU is a better football and basketball program than Missouri hands down.. but I'm sure they will have fun.... but I dont think you guys will, you just went from being occasionally competitive to Football Irrelavent, enjoy hanging out with Vandy and Ole Miss and A&M in the SEC cellar."

So you think WVU is going to just walk into the Big 12 and take it over?  They will be lucky to finish in the top half of the conference.  WVU has been competing in the worst major conference out there.  So they walk through that mess and make the occassional BCS bowl.  Talk about overrated.  You will have success against KU, Iowa State and Baylor.  Good luck with that. 




Since: Nov 19, 2006
Posted on: October 28, 2011 10:11 am
 

Three senators have been hammering B12 for weeks

The Big 12 obviously is still doing it's very best to self destruct.  Oklashoma and Texas are now locked in a power struggle.  Texas is afraid of competition, so they want to leave the Big 12 at 1`0 teams, eliminating a Conferencce Championship game.  OU, and the other Big 12 schools want to expand bacck to 12 teams, creating two divisions and a Conference Championship game.  With Louisville, Cincinnati, and West Virginia all possibilities, the Big 12 (which is known for it's stupidity) would be cvrazy not to expand back to 12 teams.  Just go back to 2003 to find out what happens to teams that do not have a conference championship game.  USC, LSU, and OU all had one loss.  USC was ranked #1 by all of the polls.  LSU and OU played in Conference Championship games and USC did not.  LSU and OU went to the NC game and USC did not, even though USC was clearly the better of the three teams.  This is what will happen to Big 12 teams if they do not have a Conference Championship game. 



Since: Feb 11, 2009
Posted on: October 28, 2011 3:56 am
 

Three senators have been hammering B12 for weeks

Oh come on, Congress agonizes and cries all summer about real things that hurt real people, and have the potential to hurt real people in the future, none of which has to do with conference realignment.  And now these guys are sticking their noses in where they aren't wanted, while letting the future continue to hang in the balance.  It's ridiculous that we are already a month into the new fiscal year with no federal budget for the year in sight, yet these politicos on both sides of the aisle are willing to jump into the realignment fray.  Remember, these are the same types who could not get an agreement worked out on last year's budget until the year was half over.  They are also the same people who brought you the "supercommittee" that is supposed to reach the deal by Thanksgiving to trim the deficit.  Anyone want to take any bets that a deal is completed and Congress goes home for the holiday with a deal intact?  Then why should these jerks be allowed to bring politics into conference realignment discussions?



Since: Nov 19, 2008
Posted on: October 28, 2011 1:10 am
 

Three senators have been hammering B12 for weeks

@wdrkb
WVU is a better football and basketball program than Missouri hands down.. but I'm sure they will have fun.... but I dont think you guys will, you just went from being occasionally competitive to Football Irrelavent, enjoy hanging out with Vandy and Ole Miss and A&M in the SEC cellar.




Since: Oct 21, 2007
Posted on: October 28, 2011 12:30 am
 

Three senators have been hammering B12 for weeks

My mom is dead.  She died 3 years ago. 




Since: Oct 21, 2006
Posted on: October 28, 2011 12:17 am
 

Three senators have been hammering B12 for weeks

 I'm willing to bet my house ($800,000 after the economic meltdown)
Wow, your mom has an awful large basement.



Since: Oct 21, 2007
Posted on: October 27, 2011 11:33 pm
 

Three senators have been hammering B12 for weeks

You've got the Big 12 scrambling to get a school ranked 164 in the country (UWV) and a "city" (read directional) school (Louisville) and you really believe the Big 12 is going to be better without Mizzou?  For those who believe that, thank god Mizzou is leaving because we definitely don't want to be associated with you low IQ people.  I'm willing to bet my house ($800,000 after the economic meltdown) that Texas and Oklahoma feel the same way.  The Pac 12, Big 10, SEC and ACC would never let in below average schools like that.  Hell, the same people who apply to Louisville are also trying to get into Murray State.  I expect the Big East (err Big 12) to announce the acceptance of Cincinnati and Boise State in the near future.  Have fun without us.  We won't miss that mess.



Since: Sep 1, 2006
Posted on: October 27, 2011 10:02 pm
 

Three senators have been hammering B12 for weeks

Louisville , West Va, and TCU =5 bcs bowl games
Nebraska, Colorado, Mizzou, Texas A&M=3 bcs bowls

Looks like the Big 12 got better in football....





Since: Aug 11, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 9:06 pm
 

Three senators have been hammering B12 for weeks

At this point, I wouldn't want either if senaters are involved. Imagine what they would do if invited and they don't like the schedule or something of that nature. Why not Boisie or BYU? Or invite Notre Dame in all sports except football and bring in BYU for football only. With senaters getting involved, this shows only one thing....this conference is still screwed up!!!


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