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Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

Posted on: December 3, 2011 11:51 pm
Edited on: December 4, 2011 1:05 am
If it all goes away for Alabama, Nick Saban will have taken his last shot on GameDay.

Complimenting LSU.

Smooth move or last gasp? 

That's the lasting image of Alabama's push for a national championship berth that could be slipping away overnight in the BCS. Jerry Palm says, for now, 'Bama looks solid at No. 2.

But let's review: The savvy Saban did his savvy best to be savvy Saturday morning, giving LSU its proper props. Even the mother of all TV hypefests may not help 'Bama as it sat on the sideline on the last day of the regular season. The intent, of course, was to expose Alabama as much as possible for two hours on national television.

What Saban failed to mention, or perhaps comprehend, was that Oklahoma State would be responsible for Bob Stoops's second-worst career loss. The Cowboys' 34-point over margin over Oklahoma on Saturday night was second only to OU’s 2005 BCS title game loss in the Orange Bowl. That 55-19 trounching at the hands of USC team that had to vacate its season because Reggie Bush was competing while ineligible.

Just to put a nice, neat bow on this season. Yeah, right. There is nothing but uncertainty as we wait for the final BCS standings Sunday night. Palm says Oklahoma State will have to make a significant leap in the human polls to pass Alabama. Consider the computers a wash. Alabama came into the day leading the Cowboys in that category, .9500-.9300.

Oklahoma State began the day fifth in both the Harris and coaches’ polls. Virginia Tech's loss to Clemson in the ACC title game helped but perhaps not enough. If the computers stay basically the same, Palm says Okie State has to finish at least 19 points ahead of Alabama in each of the human polls to have a chance. Oklahoma State currently trails Alabama by 342 points in the Harris poll and 166 points in the coaches' poll. That essentially means the Cowboys are going to have to pass Stanford, which didn’t play, and Virginia Tech in the human polls.

"I'm not sure one team ahead of [Oklahoma State] losing and one team putting up a big number [Clemson] is going to change the fact that everyone thought all along that LSU and Alabama were the two best teams," Palm said. "The voters would have to have an epiphany. That's basically what we're talking about."

That’s not to say the voters won’t change their minds. After watching one conference win five titles in a row, there could be such a thing as SEC Voter Fatigue.

The computers don’t know this was Stoops' second-worst loss. They don't know that Saban subtly was hyping his team on ESPN. A lot of the voters won’t either. Should it matter? Victory margin is largely factored out of the machines anyway. The circle argument will continue overnight until the final standings are released.

Computers don't know that Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy endorsed Alabama at No. 2 last week, then went on the stump for his team immediately after the OU game.

Computers don't know the minds of the Cowboys on the night of Nov. 18. That was less than a day two Cowboys women's basketball coaches lost their lives in a plane crash. The next night the Cowboys lost their only game to Iowa State. Should that matter?

Computers don't care a hoot about an LSU-Alabama rematch which would be the first of its kind in BCS history.

So what we're left with are these base arguments:
  • Oklahoma State’s only loss in an 11-1 season came to unranked Iowa State on the road in overtime two weeks ago.
  • Alabama’s only loss came to No. 1 LSU at home in overtime a month ago.
  • Oklahoma State has an elite offense.
  • Alabama has an elite defense.
  • Oklahoma State won its conference.
  • Alabama didn't win its division.
Which team would you pick to play LSU in the national championship game? The answer isn't obvious. Immediately after the game Stoops said he would vote LSU-Oklahoma State 1-2.

That's one man. So is blogger Tom Fornelli, who may have provided the most compelling evidence this week. Fornelli posted blind resumes of all the contenders for No. 2. Oklahoma State got 80 percent of the vote.

But the computers don't care about that either.

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Since: Dec 12, 2006
Posted on: January 8, 2012 7:49 pm

Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

Pathetic comments?? I am only stating what the David Pollack, Herbstreit, Mary May, etc. are saying on ESPN. They know way more about it than you do.

Since: Dec 12, 2006
Posted on: January 8, 2012 7:46 pm

Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

I think I saw Arkansas beat A&M in Dallas and I saw Arkansas beat Kansas State by 2 TD's. All I needed to see to know Bama and LSU are better than any team in the Big 12. Bama and LSU beat Arkansas by 24+ points. Speaking of NFL their will be 15+ future NFL players playing tomorrow night from what I have heard Mel Kiper say.

Since: Dec 12, 2006
Posted on: January 8, 2012 7:40 pm

Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

A top 10 OU team? Are you kidding me???? OU is not even a Top 25 team right now!

Since: Oct 29, 2006
Posted on: January 8, 2012 11:10 am

Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

Will79  wrote:   "...blah blah blah..... SEC is better than the NFL  urahhh..... blah..."

Your pathetic comments are sooo irrelevent!   Why don't you get some of the all-powerful SEC teams to schedule two or three out-of-conference games each with various Big-12 teams next season?     Live a little more suspenseful.... have some balls like Florida State and Miami with their ooc scheduling..... Then we'll be able to better compare the relative strength of the two conferences. 

But no, that would be asking way too much of the glory-rollers of the SEC... they'd never give up their 4 ooc home-games against teams like the Northestern School for Blind Girls, etc...

Since: Aug 29, 2007
Posted on: December 5, 2011 11:22 am

Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

actually , was that the game with the phantom missed/made field goal????? anyone. im referring to the okst iows state game??
cause if that is okst should definatly be playing inthe!

Since: Dec 4, 2011
Posted on: December 4, 2011 7:56 pm

Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

You want play LSU and couldn't beat Iowa State. SAD!
That's all OKiE State had to do and couldn't. 
As far as I'm concerned they had their chance ! 

Since: Dec 4, 2011
Posted on: December 4, 2011 7:43 pm

Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

lets just let LSU and Alabama play for thier ego's .. what the heck.  If Oklahoma State does not get their shot.  Then I say, Oklahoma State Cowboys" are the National Champs!  Only because, the SEC is chicken ****.  End of story.

Since: Jan 3, 2007
Posted on: December 4, 2011 7:36 pm

Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

Cunningham, just this year 8 of the 10 Big XII teams are expected to go bowling, I think 80% is more then the 66.6 you say will go for the SEC. I understand that an at large BCS bid bumps all your regular bowls down one notch, instead of the 2nd plac team playing the Cotton the 3rd place team fills in that slot. But that still should favor the SEC from what i hear. Getting close to making the rematch official it sounds like. It should be a good game to watch AGAIN.

Since: Dec 4, 2011
Posted on: December 4, 2011 7:29 pm

Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

I loved the conspiracy theory that the Oklahoma Sooners would ever consider laying down to the Pokes in hopes of a National championship for the pokes?  Really?  OU and Texas are two of the most wicked teams in the big 12 and probably will continue to be.  The thought of either of them ever laying down to what they might consider a subpar team, which is exactly how OK State has been  treated for years is rediculous. OSU, loves the years they are kicking butt and Weeden is one smart sob.  OSU  is pationate, which might be their akeely's heel.

Bottom line, the Pokes are going to kick butt and take names, but at the end of the day.  They will be a very gracious team that will respect all their opponents.  To not respect them would be a major mistake.  If they get to play Stanford, they will play them right.

I would expect nothing less of them.  Great team, with good ethic's.

If the SEC does not want to play them.  So be it.  We here in Oklahoma now know.

Your loss SEC bosses.


Since: Dec 4, 2011
Posted on: December 4, 2011 7:14 pm

Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

Hey Boise State didn't get their shot either, so why don't you play them! They did lose to a good team! ...TCU by 1 point!

Oklahoma State had their shot, All they had to do is win. But they LOST to a bunch of losers and expect us to forget that!   

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