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AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

Posted on: December 7, 2011 1:39 pm

Erik Gee believes LSU can’t lose.

Oh, the Tigers can score fewer points than Alabama in the BCS title game but they can’t lose his No. 1 vote. They’ve done enough. That’s Gee’s belief and he intends reinforce it with his Associated Press ballot.

The 39-year old radio host in Albuquerque, N.M. is going to vote LSU No. 1 pretty much win or lose following the BCS title game.

“It would have to be something like a 63-0 pasting [by Alabama],” for Gee to change his mind, he told this week.

His is a stance we haven’t heard of this week as talk of a split national championship starts to bubble up. Now we have a face and a name and reasons why LSU should stay No. 1 in AP. That’s the only place it could happen, by the way, if Alabama wins. The coaches’ No. 1 vote is committed to the BCS title game winner, although there have been some defectors among voting coaches over the years.

“They’ve beaten Alabama once, what else do they need to do?” Gee said of LSU.

“I honestly feel this is the first year somebody is getting screwed by the system because they beat a team on the road, won the division, won the conference and now the system is saying, ‘Play it again, this time on a neutral field.’ “

This is the first time in BCS history two teams from the same conference have met. It is the third time a team that hasn’t won its conference is playing for the title. Complicating matters is No. 1 LSU being asked to beat No. 2 Alabama again after winning the SEC and beating eight ranked teams, three of them in the top three.

Gee’s opinion shouldn’t be a shock. We have seen weirder things – this week. Nick Saban conspicuously voted Oklahoma State No. 4, seemingly attempting to hold the Cowboys underwater so they couldn’t challenge his Tide for No. 2. No coach voted Alabama lower than third. Five coaches voted Oklahoma State lower than third.

Since LSU won the SEC title game Saturday there has been some talk of a split national championship, but not in detail. Oklahoma State finished behind No. 2 Alabama by the closest margin (.0086 of a point) since the BCS formula was changed in 2004. The last split national title occurred in 2003 when USC remained No. 1 in AP. LSU, which beat Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl, won the BCS title.

Gee graduated from Oklahoma but his second choice for college was LSU. He considers himself a passionate and educated college football fan. On Sunday, he voted Oklahoma State No. 2 in his latest AP ballot.

“Not because I believe they deserve to play in the national championship but because I believe they and Alabama should get to play for [second place]. LSU should get to kick back and watch everyone else make fools of themselves.”

As for the realistic chances of a split national championship? So far, Gee seems to have a lot of support.  For the last four weeks, all 60 voters were unanimous in voting LSU No. 1. Would a close Alabama win -- say, three points -- convince the majority of those 60 to keep LSU at No. 1?

“I think the majority of them [voters] would vote Alabama No. 1 [if the Tide won],” Gee said. “But if it’s a close game, there’s enough of them out there to go, ‘I’m not changing the vote.’ “

You want more? Listen to Gee on “The Sports Bar” weekdays from 3-7 p.m. on KNML in Albuquerque.

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Since: Dec 5, 2009
Posted on: December 8, 2011 6:09 pm

AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

I think this AP voter is jumping the gun a little bit here. Let's back up, LSU is the last unbeaten team in college football, and they have won rather convincingly in their games. Except the one game in which they had trouble winning was the one against the Tide. As much as I didn't want to see a rematch happen, I think that there is some solid reasons why this rematch was chosen. While LSU is arguably the best college football team, Alabama is right there next to them. The reason why 'bama was chosen is because they got what it takes to defeat the LSU. This game will be hard fought for, and I'd be very amazed if the game turns out lopsided.

Since: Oct 17, 2011
Posted on: December 8, 2011 5:06 pm

AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

Oh, and this Erik Gee is an idiot. Anyone that declares their vote before the game is even played should have their vote stripped and given to someone who's willing to be a bit more arbitrary. Usually better to play the game before you decide the winner.

Since: Oct 17, 2011
Posted on: December 8, 2011 5:01 pm

AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

Bama, while I respect what you say about the strength of the SEC through recent history, the only thing that matters is this year. And face it, SEC teams were way overrated, this year. I mean, come on, Auburn was ranked when they were 6-3and nearly lost to Utah State. Fact of the matter is, because of that SEC history you mentioned, teams are habitually overrated. That leads to more "Top-25" wins, which really aren't that great, but it sure looks good on paper!

OSU had the better Strength of Schedule. Folks can shout SEC, SEC, all they want, but OSU played a tougher schedule, and that's all there is to it.

Since: Nov 17, 2008
Posted on: December 8, 2011 3:13 pm

AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

LSUSMC - correct - 3 total NCs for the Gators - my oversight.

Since: Aug 18, 2010
Posted on: December 8, 2011 2:57 pm

AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

Florida actually has three NC's, as they one won under Spurrier. 

Since: Nov 17, 2008
Posted on: December 8, 2011 2:29 pm

AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

elgecko84 - like many others, you seem to have fallen victim to the "short view" based on what you see this year in the SEC.  Your statement "(people forget that MSU, Ole Miss, UK, Vandy, Tenn., Florida and Auburn are still in the SEC)" is a classic example.  If you employ a longer view, lets say...more than this year alone, you'll find the SEC owns the Lion's share of BCS titles, and everyone consecutively from 2006-2011, precisely because it has breadth and depth of excellence

Sure, MSU, UK, Vandy, and Ole Miss are usually at the bottom of the heap in the SEC.  But for you to take THIS YEAR as your paradigm and try to suggest Tennessee, Florida, and Auburn are "weak teams" and to try to use them as proof that the SEC is weak is simply and utterly silly.  I hate

Don't get me wrong - as a Bama fan, I thoroughly hate Florida, UT, and Auburn.  But the facts about Florida, UT, and Auburn, despite this down year they're all three having, speak for themselves:

National Championships in the BCS Era:  4  (Gators 2006, 2008, Vols 1998, Auburn 2010)
Total National Championships all time - 11 (Gators -2, Vols 6, Auburn 2)
Total SEC Championships - 35 (Gators 8, Vols 16, Auburn 11) 

These 3 "weak" teams you've erroneously called out own 4 of the current 7 BCS Championships owned by the SEC.  That's 7 of the 13 total BCS National Championships that exist so far.  Plus, SEC already owns its 8th, we just don't know if it's Bama's or LSU's.  You'll note the "Big 10" has earned exactly 1 BCS title - and it certainly wasn't weak Michigan that stumbled into it. 

SEC is the wrong conference to try to call out for producing one elite team, a couple of good teams, and a bunch of stinkers.

Last note:  that stinker Mississippi State humiliated Michigan in the Gator bowl last year 52-14 - handing the mighty wolverines new school records for most points scored against them in a bowl game and worst margin of loss.  Pretty good for a "stinker" 

Since: Nov 19, 2011
Posted on: December 8, 2011 12:28 pm

AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

elgecko84, you are joking - right?  Have you looked at LSU's schedule and the scores of their 13 wins?  "What have they done to prove they could demolish a good team?"  With the exception of the close game against #2 Alabama, not one other game has been close and it's very hard to find a non top 25 team on their schedule.

I not going to write anymore, because you're doing this as a joke. You are joking!  How stupid of me.  Got me man! - Have a good day.

Since: Dec 2, 2006
Posted on: December 8, 2011 12:19 pm

AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

LSU should remain the AP #1 for the reasons noted above. They are in a double jeopardy situation in regard to the AP poll.

Since: Sep 13, 2011
Posted on: December 8, 2011 10:23 am

AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

This exact scenario is yet another reason why the NC game shouldn't be a rematch of division opponents! In the event Bama wins, they are NC's by simply being in the right game at the right time. Their winning however only brings up more questions than answers. They would've have essentially split games with LSU. This solves nothing as far as who's the better team. An LSU-OSU,  matchup would've, in the event of an LSU loss, produce a true national champion. What a mess! In the unlikely event that Bama beats LSU in what amounts to a home game for LSU, and OSU puts it on Stanford, then what?

Since: Nov 17, 2008
Posted on: December 8, 2011 10:20 am

AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

Who cares what this guy does?  Winner of BCS National Championship Game is National Champion. 

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