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AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

Posted on: December 7, 2011 1:39 pm

Erik Gee believes LSU can’t lose.

Oh, the Tigers can score fewer points than Alabama in the BCS title game but they can’t lose his No. 1 vote. They’ve done enough. That’s Gee’s belief and he intends reinforce it with his Associated Press ballot.

The 39-year old radio host in Albuquerque, N.M. is going to vote LSU No. 1 pretty much win or lose following the BCS title game.

“It would have to be something like a 63-0 pasting [by Alabama],” for Gee to change his mind, he told this week.

His is a stance we haven’t heard of this week as talk of a split national championship starts to bubble up. Now we have a face and a name and reasons why LSU should stay No. 1 in AP. That’s the only place it could happen, by the way, if Alabama wins. The coaches’ No. 1 vote is committed to the BCS title game winner, although there have been some defectors among voting coaches over the years.

“They’ve beaten Alabama once, what else do they need to do?” Gee said of LSU.

“I honestly feel this is the first year somebody is getting screwed by the system because they beat a team on the road, won the division, won the conference and now the system is saying, ‘Play it again, this time on a neutral field.’ “

This is the first time in BCS history two teams from the same conference have met. It is the third time a team that hasn’t won its conference is playing for the title. Complicating matters is No. 1 LSU being asked to beat No. 2 Alabama again after winning the SEC and beating eight ranked teams, three of them in the top three.

Gee’s opinion shouldn’t be a shock. We have seen weirder things – this week. Nick Saban conspicuously voted Oklahoma State No. 4, seemingly attempting to hold the Cowboys underwater so they couldn’t challenge his Tide for No. 2. No coach voted Alabama lower than third. Five coaches voted Oklahoma State lower than third.

Since LSU won the SEC title game Saturday there has been some talk of a split national championship, but not in detail. Oklahoma State finished behind No. 2 Alabama by the closest margin (.0086 of a point) since the BCS formula was changed in 2004. The last split national title occurred in 2003 when USC remained No. 1 in AP. LSU, which beat Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl, won the BCS title.

Gee graduated from Oklahoma but his second choice for college was LSU. He considers himself a passionate and educated college football fan. On Sunday, he voted Oklahoma State No. 2 in his latest AP ballot.

“Not because I believe they deserve to play in the national championship but because I believe they and Alabama should get to play for [second place]. LSU should get to kick back and watch everyone else make fools of themselves.”

As for the realistic chances of a split national championship? So far, Gee seems to have a lot of support.  For the last four weeks, all 60 voters were unanimous in voting LSU No. 1. Would a close Alabama win -- say, three points -- convince the majority of those 60 to keep LSU at No. 1?

“I think the majority of them [voters] would vote Alabama No. 1 [if the Tide won],” Gee said. “But if it’s a close game, there’s enough of them out there to go, ‘I’m not changing the vote.’ “

You want more? Listen to Gee on “The Sports Bar” weekdays from 3-7 p.m. on KNML in Albuquerque.

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Since: Dec 8, 2011
Posted on: December 8, 2011 1:06 am

AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

Lsu would blow ckokie st out of the water so either ur a lsu fan or a dummy

Since: Oct 18, 2009
Posted on: December 8, 2011 1:05 am

AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

Nastby1- I can tell from the way you write that this will go over your head, but it is statistically impossible for team X to whip team Y when they have lost by 3 points. 

LSU deserves to be in the championship, but let's not pretend Bama and LSU are balanced. LSU couldn't gain a first down in the ENTIRE FIRST HALF against a mediocre Georgia team.  

Since: Oct 18, 2009
Posted on: December 8, 2011 1:02 am

AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

Smokingguns- I see what you're saying, but it's just not that simple. What proves Alabama was "by far" the second best team? The fact that they lost at home? Seriously? Who else did Alabama even play? Oh yeah, that collection of overrated SEC teams that I was talking about. Instead of addressing that point, though, you bring up Oklahoma. I understand, it's difficult to defend your position when it's based on emotion rather than logic. 

Logic would say that when two teams have identical records, the team with the hardest schedule must be better. That would be OSU hands down. They are by far the second best team in the country.  

Since: Dec 8, 2011
Posted on: December 8, 2011 1:01 am

AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

b4 bashing bama take a look at the stats from the lsu game,they were neck and neck except bama forced 4 more punts so bamas defense was that much better so it should not be a question of #2 it should be who is #1 cause the way i see it bama and lsu should have a rematch cause the last game was a tie!

Since: Oct 1, 2007
Posted on: December 8, 2011 12:50 am

AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

So if they lost to the #1 team already, maybe we should have given someone else a chance. I don't care who the "2nd best" team is. Given that there is no playoff, I just want the regular season to actually count. If we ever get a true playoff, then there will be room enough for wild card spots for good teams who just weren't good enough to win their conference.

Since: Jun 17, 2007
Posted on: December 8, 2011 12:02 am

AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

I've never seen such idiots,Alabama has 1 loss,noone else is undefeated,thier loss??To #1 LSU,SO THIER CLEAR CUT #2!!!PS. If you saw the game Alabamw whipped LSU's azz,thanks to 4 missed fg's and a wr throwing a pick on the 1 yard line Alabama dominated the game!!!!

Since: Dec 7, 2011
Posted on: December 8, 2011 12:01 am

AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

So who teams beat throughout the season means nothing? It's only who you lose to? I guess Boise should have played for the NC a few times now. SEC fans always said they didn't deserve to, because although in years past they didn't lose they never beat anybody. Now the fact that Alabama played a weaker schedule than OK state and their wins were not as good the fact that they LOST to a better team means they are better?

Since: Dec 7, 2011
Posted on: December 7, 2011 11:58 pm

AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

You're comparing apples to oranges. NFL has a playoff where people earn their way to the title game. NCAA has a system where people are voted to the championship game, and then voted on after the championship. As long as the BCS remains these schools are at the mercy of voters, both to get into the NC game and after the NC game, so as long as people are voting they SHOULD vote who they think is the best team. And I agree with this voter, a close game will still mean LSU had the best season, and was the better team.

Since: Dec 7, 2011
Posted on: December 7, 2011 11:54 pm

AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

How did Alabama prove it was by far the 2nd best team? Alabama didn't play the two best teams in the SEC east, and it played the two best teams in the SEC west, both at home, losing one of them. Out of conference it beat the 5th best Big Ten school, Penn State. Ok State beat more ranked teams and more teams with winning records. There is a reason why the majority of computers with no bias had them ranked 2nd, and none had them lower than third. If every voter that put OK state lower than third, which is clearly wrong, put them third then OK state would be playing for the NC. Even as is this was the closest vote between 2nd and 3rd ever, so not sure where you get that the two best teams by far are playing for the title.

Since: Oct 27, 2006
Posted on: December 7, 2011 11:49 pm

AP voter says LSU can't drop out of No. 1

Guess who has more losses to unranked teams? It's not Alabama, it's OSU. You guys should be happy to see LSU and Bama square off again; this will be the first time in a long time that a SEC team 'loses' in the National Championship Game. 

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