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Robert Griffin in a landslide in my straw poll

Posted on: December 8, 2011 3:08 pm

Robert Griffin in a runaway.

That’s how much Baylor’s quarterback has captured the nation – or rather the ballots of Heisman voters. Griffin was the landslide winner in the Dodds and Ends straw poll canvassing of 23 Heisman voters.

Griffin was named on all 23 ballots, getting 19 first-place votes. Stanford’s Andrew Luck was second having been named on 13 ballots, getting two first-place votes. Alabama’s Trent Richardson was third.

Ballots were due to the Heisman Trust on Monday. This poll suggests that Griffin made huge gains after beating Texas on Saturday. Before that, it seemed that Luck and Richardson had dominated the voting.

If Griffin follows through and wins the Stiff Arm on Saturday, he would be the first player from a private parochial school to win the Heisman since BYU’s Ty Detmer in 1990. He would be the first player from a non-traditional football school to win it since Boston College’s Doug Flutie in 1984.

Since then, the Heisman has been shared by only 17 schools.


The totals:

1. Robert Griffin, QB, Baylor, 64 points (19 first-place votes)
2. Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford, 25 (2)
3. Trent Richardson, TB, Alabama, 17 (2)
4. Montee Ball, TB, Wisconsin, 14
5. Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU, 11
6. Matt Barkley, QB, USC, 6
7. (tie) Collin Klein, QB, Kansas State; LaMichael James, TB, Oregon, 1

Participating voters: Lee Barknecht, Omaha World-Herald; Tony Barnhart,, CBS Sports Network; Mike Bianchi, Orlando Sentinel; Dean Blevins, News 9, Oklahoma City, Okla.; Kirk Bohls, Austin American-Statesman; Rick Bozich, Louisville Courier-Journal; Chip Brown,; Chuck Carlton, Dallas Morning News; Angelique Chengelis, Detroit News; Bob Condotta; Seattle Times; Dennis Dodd,; Erik Gee, KNML, Albuquerque, N.M.; Ken Goe, Portland Oregonian; Teddy Greenstein, Chicago Tribune; Matt Hayes, Sporting News; Tommy Hicks, Mobile Register; Ron Higgins, Memphis Commercial Appeal; Todd Jones, Columbus Dispatch; Blair Kerkhoff, Kansas City Star; Stewart Mandel,; George Schroeder, Eugene Register-Guard; David Teel, Newport News Daily Press; Dick Weiss, New York Post.   


Since: Jan 19, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2011 8:41 am

Robert Griffin in a landslide in my straw poll

Stuz, I'm a research scientist and football fan for 50 years, same as you. ;) But I respectively disagree with your comments about Griffin. I *totally* agree with your assessment of Luck--phenomenal college quarterback and outstanding pro prospect. But if you look at the numbers, Griffin outshone Luck by a narrow margin this year. Passing metrics? Griffin's are slightly better (TD/int ratio, QB rating, and so on). Rushing? Griffin had 9 TDs, Luck 2. Receiving, since you brought it up? Griffin caught one pass for 15 yards, Luck one for 13. Oh, and Griffin punted the ball three times this year. ;) And Baylor's strength of schedule was slightly more difficult than Stanford's, according to the computers. If you want to support Luck for the Heisman, I don't blame you. A strong case can be made for him. But surely you should realize that a strong case can be made for Griffin, too. He's earned the honors coming his way by performing on the field. Can we agree on that?

Since: Feb 11, 2009
Posted on: December 9, 2011 6:16 am

Robert Griffin in a landslide in my straw poll

The Heisman is ostensibly supposed to be about the best all-around football player.  The word ostensibly is without a doubt appropriate since few exceptions, the award has been dominated by offensive backs and quarterbacks.  So if the media types want to go that way, how do they put Griffin over Luck.  Once more I raise the point that not only has Luck been the acrobatic pass catcher this season, but he has also played defense.  Again I being up his solo, open-field tackle against the Oregon player who intercepted his pass attempt.  Could Griffin have made that play?  Would he have made that play?  If the answer is no, then we know who the landslide winner for best all-around player should be. 

Since: Mar 22, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2011 4:38 am

Robert Griffin in a landslide in my straw poll

the heisman. just like peyton not winning it when almost everybody knew he was the top player and would be a top nfl qb for years. now its luck's turn.  its karma for luck not winning it. we can go back and laugh later just like peyton questioning the idiocy of the heisman and its voters

Since: Jan 17, 2010
Posted on: December 9, 2011 12:56 am

Robert Griffin in a landslide in my straw poll

Wisconson always has a massive road gratter offensive line full of NFL prospects. If you jusst want to look at stats and not consider the circumstance I suppose we could just give it to Case Keenum.

Since: Mar 8, 2007
Posted on: December 9, 2011 12:20 am

Robert Griffin in a landslide in my straw poll

Am I the only one questioning why the hell Montee Ball isn't going to win the Heisman trophy?!?  He's got more touchdowns then some teams!!  And this is why the Heisman is a joke.    

Since: Nov 29, 2008
Posted on: December 8, 2011 11:56 pm

Robert Griffin in a landslide in my straw poll

The slow death of media image crafting!

Since: Jan 6, 2008
Posted on: December 8, 2011 11:42 pm

Robert Griffin in a landslide in my straw poll

You know, there is a site out there that has the ballots of around 200 voters accounted for... this is really nothing special at all.

Since: Jan 18, 2007
Posted on: December 8, 2011 10:09 pm

Robert Griffin in a landslide in my straw poll

If there is justice left in college football, Griffin is the winner easily.  It doesn't make up for Alabama playing in the title, but it's a start.

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: December 8, 2011 4:13 pm

Robert Griffin in a landslide in my straw poll

You get a vote?  Mike Bald Donkey from the Orlando Sentinel gets a vote?  Some guy from Albuquerque gets a vote?

If the rest of the people on this list are, respectfully, as unqualified as you and Bald Donkey, its no wonder unqualified players win year after year.  If Griffin wins it will be a complete coincidence and will happen in spite of these incompetent jackwagons.

For the record, if I had a ballot, which I think I'm entitled to given the curent voters, I'm voting 1 RG3, 2 Luck and 3 Barkley.  I'm torn between Barkley and Mathieu for 3rd, but I give it to Barkley by a hair.

I except from this Angelique Chengelis.  I lived in Detroit and liked her, she's knowlegable.  The rest of you could learn something from her.

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