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Pinkel: 'Common sense' will lead MU-KU to play

Posted on: February 29, 2012 6:39 pm
Edited on: February 29, 2012 6:53 pm

COLUMBIA, Mo. – Missouri coach Gary Pinkel said his school and Kansas will play again “when common sense takes over emotion.”

Pinkel has been a strident supporter of keeping the KU-Missouri series alive as the Tigers head to the SEC. The argument between the two sides over the century-old rivalry has, if anything, increased after Saturday’s basketball game in Lawrence. KU’s overtime win may be the last meeting of the two schools in a major sport. Kansas has said it has no interest in playing Missouri since it is leaving the Big 12.

“It will be a great continued rivalry and it could happen this year if we really wanted it to happen,” Pinkel said. “It’s all choices. We’re ready to do it anytime.”

The war of words between the two camps isn’t going to end anytime soon. At the end of interview on other subjects Wednesday in his office, Pinkel reacted to a quote from Bill Self after Saturday’s hoops games.

“It’s not the same,” Self said of the rivalry continuing. “Missouri has got to market their future. We’re their past.”

Pinkel said he is convinced that the schools will play again in football and basketball. The rivals have played since 1892 in football and 1907 in basketball.

“There will come a time when, without question, that in Kansas City at the beginning of the football season, hopefully Missouri and Kansas will play,” he said. “That will happen sometime, when common sense takes over emotion. There is sometime when, in Kansas City, Mo., KU and Mizzou will play basketball too.”

The teams have played a neutral-site football game at Kansas City’s Arrowhead Stadium since 2007. There is speculation the schools could meet in the future for a non-conference basketball game at Kansas City’s Sprint Center. There is still a possibility the teams could meet at next week’s Big 12 tournament and, less likely, in the NCAA tournament.

“That rivalry can last forever and ever and ever,” Pinkel said. “It gets kind of comical after a while the more you hear about it, especially when you hear it coming from Kansas City.”

Some Missouri supporters in and around Kansas City had been more vocal about staying in the Big 12 than in other parts of the state. The Big 12 traces its basketball tournament roots in Kansas City back to 1977 in the old Big Eight. The four-year-old Sprint Center was built, in part, as a way to keep that tournament in town.

“Everywhere in the state, everyone has kind of accepted it and you go into Kansas City – and Kansas City is a great city for Mizzou football and basketball – [but] after a while [pausing] … it’s going to happen,” Pinkel said. “When common sense takes over and we relax a little bit why would it not?"


Since: Jul 31, 2008
Posted on: March 1, 2012 12:34 pm

Pinkel: 'Common sense' will lead MU-KU to play

Just shaking my head at Pinkel and Missouri......"Hey, us even though we just crapped in your mess kit."  Delusional.

Since: Jan 20, 2008
Posted on: March 1, 2012 12:32 pm

I'm gonna take my ball and go home...

Seriously KU... This has nothing to do with a Big 12 rivarly.  This goes beyond conference.  I can understand if the Gayhawks don't want to play Mizzou in football.  I wouldn't either if I knew it was an automatic loss every year, but there is no excuse not play the basketball game.  The bottom line is Mizzou is on a different level than KU and Kansas is playing the bitch card because they know they lose everytime in football and it's now a coin flip in basketball.  If I were Kansas I would do everything possible to keep this game b/c when OU and UT jump ship in the next couple of years they are gonna need all the money possible when they go to the WAC.  Oh and "Global Gayhawk" when did KU ever pack out Arrowhead?  I've been to 4 of the 5 MU/KU arrowhead games and KU's representation is pathetic.  I know it's a tough realization that Mizzou is just superior to your poor excuse of a University. M I Z

Since: Sep 25, 2007
Posted on: March 1, 2012 10:50 am

Pinkel: 'Common sense' will lead MU-KU to play

Must be a slow news day to try and rile up the old and ancient garbage about the game.  Nebraska is gone and we dont try and schedule then even though we had great times playing them, KU will be fine playing in the revised Big XII and in a few years, there will be a desire to bring back the old just to remember the good old days just like they used to be.  Neither team needs each other at this point in time so let it rest.  Once the hurt and reality sets in, the politicians will get involved and get games set up again.  But lets be real.  MU and KU were not selling out the stadium the past 3 years anyway.  A break in the action will make the game a event again in a year or two to kick off the season.  Basketball is KU period.  MU is having a good year currently but until we put together a resume that even begins to rival what the Jayhawks have accomplihsed, we dont need to be whining about a KC Exhibition.  The NCAA will be a great place to see each other as the years come to pass and then and only then will the basketball folks get back together.  Onward to the SEC and let our past be the past and let it be.

Since: Mar 19, 2010
Posted on: March 1, 2012 10:22 am

Pinkel:Comical, to say the Least?

...This is becoming absurd to the point that even misery coaches are whining & crying about it. Pinkle now says it's comical. A much more adequate interperetation would be-pathetic.

...There may be a financial gain for Kansas to pack Arrowhead & get a cut, but at present none whatsoever to continue BB. As for ethics & "common sense", why would KU give MU an opportunity to make one thin dime or gain a recruiting advantage in the KC area? Kansas will not do business with a former associate that dumped them & all other business partners for a slightly bigger payday. If there are some things that common sense should be a part of, & that's it, period.

...IMO misery should be focusing on their future & not the past, which is not only counterproductive, but downright stupid & childish. Wah, Wah, Wah...

...And then again perhaps they see how underfunded the athletic budget truly is in the SEC vs the top eschelon of programs & they're willing to do anything they can to make money cause they know they're going to get screwed royally by better competetion? That'd really send out a shock wave, wouldn't it? They keep whing about the rivalry, blah, blah, blah, yet it's still all about the effin money.

...While I will miss hammering the misery idiots that do nothing but post insultuous and vile comments on various message boards, that is just a pastime that I can & will certainly move on from. It's just a crappy form of amusment to me anyway as I have been retired for a while now. I think some of the blog comments genuinely reveal how desperate & imbalanced some posters really get. I must admit I do find some humor on these boards, albeit somewhat twisted at times, but there is certainly no shortage of wit without all the negativity. Also I have conversed with many who are knowledgeable, polite & respectful, and I will continue that as well. Not all posters & fans are crybabies from either schools IMO.

So please just get over it & move on. If it happens someday, it happens. However it's like everything else in life that constantly changes-make the adjustments & move onward & upward. At The University of Kansas the glass is always half full, so it does appear that it is easier for the KU fans in this situation. Good luck to all the respectful & polite misery fans & alums, and to the pi$$er$ & moaner$, maybe you could donate some free labor at the FB stadium to help out that budget problem? Also maybe that whiny a$$ coach will take a paycut-that'd help the bottom line, which is the problem that permeated this whole scenario to begin with? JMO

Since: Jan 4, 2007
Posted on: March 1, 2012 8:42 am

Pinkel: 'Common sense' will lead MU-KU to play

hey gary why don't you go to the bar have a few drinks, jump in you car and get picked up for one more DWI

Since: May 27, 2008
Posted on: March 1, 2012 3:38 am
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Since: Jul 25, 2011
Posted on: March 1, 2012 2:15 am

Pinkel: 'Common sense' will lead MU-KU to play

Here's the thing.  It is a rivalry without a game.  Seriously.  It's not a conference rivalry.  It's a personal one. We'll play in the tournament or whatever.  Full disclosure - I'm a MU fan who grew up in KC and a part of this rivalry.  But I understand ku's perspective (not the "MU is leaving so we can't play them" one - which makes no sense - but the "it doesn't benefit us to play" one.  I get that - maybe it doesn't.  It does benefit the fans and eventually it might benefit them financially - especially if they can build a football program. But even if we never play in the regular season we will still hate each other.  It has nothing to do with conference championships.  Let's face it we've played one fb game in the last 50 years that mattered outside of our own personal rivalry.  MU needed to leave.  No way to turn down the stability.  If ku doesn't want to play I just don't care.  

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: March 1, 2012 1:47 am

Pinkel: 'Common sense' will lead MU-KU to play

SEC is jerksville.  You do NOT have the best collections of team sin the country.  All you have to do is look at your record in bowl games.  And don't give me the national championship crap.  Everyone knows that NO TEAM has ever won the title.  The title has been AWARDED, not won.  Voters determine the rankings and the "champ."  It is not done on the field.
It actually is. The national champion is North Dakota State.

Since: Nov 7, 2010
Posted on: March 1, 2012 1:25 am

Pinkel: 'Common sense' will lead MU-KU to play

I don't blame KU. All we keep hearing from MU and A&M fans is how they are going to a better if not the best conference in the country. You made your bed, now you have to lie in it.

Since: Jun 21, 2010
Posted on: March 1, 2012 12:06 am

Pinkel: 'Common sense' will lead MU-KU to play

There is no reason for this rivalry to end.  Regardless of which conference both teams are in, if they are interested in playing each other, the game can be scheduled.  Pinkle is right, moving past the emotions will get the games scheduled again.  Sure, the details of money ( always the case ), location, ect will come in to play, but both sides need to say " Let's do this ".  Mizzou is the only one saying they want to continue to play the series.  It's too bad that Kansas has taken this stance.  The rivalry ( in all sports and academics ) has been great for both colleges, and can continue to be great for both schools.  To have it end like this is a shame.

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