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Phillies set NLCS rotation

Posted on: October 7, 2008 7:57 pm

PHILADELPHIA -- The Philadelphia Phillies will stay with what got them to this point when the National League Championship Series opens here on Thursday evening: Left-hander Cole Hamels will start Game 1, followed by right-hander Brett Myers, lefty Jamie Moyer and righty Joe Blanton, according to pitching coach Rich Dubee.

No official word yet on the Dodgers, who were traveling and expected to arrive later Tuesday night. They're set up to begin with the same three starters who pitched them to a sweep of the Chicago Cubs in the divisional series: Right-handers Derek Lowe, Chad Billingsley and Hiroki Kuroda.

It is expected that Dodgers manager Joe Torre will leave those three in place and go to a four-man rotation in the best-of-seven NLCS. Assuming he does, he and pitching coach Rick Honeycutt must decide on a No. 4 starter, which probably will come down to left-hander Clayton Kershaw or right-hander Greg Maddux.

Based on how the two pitched down the stretch, as well as on the chance to slot a lefty in against a potent Phillies lineup that includes MVP candidate Ryan Howard, it is expected that Kershaw will get the nod as the Game 4 starter.

As for the Phillies, who ranked fourth in the NL with a 3.88 ERA this season, the current alignment leaves them very well-balanced between right- and left-handed starters as well as relatively hard-throwers (Myers, Blanton), a change-up specialist (Hamels) and a soft-tosser (Moyer).

"We're comfortable the way it is," Dubee said. "You start flipping it around, and then somebody is going to have 10 days off (between starts), and that's not good."

Philadelphia's starting pitchers ranked fourth in innings pitched among NL rotations (966 2/3) and ranked second in quality starts (88).




Since: Sep 10, 2008
Posted on: October 8, 2008 12:17 pm

Phillies set NLCS rotation

Sorry About All The Same Posts, It Told Me That They Weren't Being Posted... Now I Feel As Idiotic As The Guy Who Started This Thread...

Since: Sep 10, 2008
Posted on: October 8, 2008 12:14 pm

Phillies set NLCS rotation

You Are A Moron.  Joe Blanton And Brett Myers Completely Shut Down The Potent Milwaukee Brewers Lineup In Their Playoff Series And Manny Ramirez Hit .212 Against The Phillies In A Dodgers Uniform. Get A Clue. Phillies In 6.

Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: October 8, 2008 11:51 am

Phillies set NLCS rotation



This is why I tend to hate national media.  It is always anti-Philly biased, even when they have a really good team playing at the time.  Phillies, Eagles, Sixers, Flyers...whenever they have a good team, it's barely ever mentioned.  It was so odd this year.  Whenever the Phillies were leading the division, or coming back after being down a little was all about the Mets Mets Mets.  It's like the Mets had control on the division the entire time, when in fact, it was the Phillies who had it.  Some want to forget the Mets collapse and the Phillies taking the crown in '07, saying it was a fluke.  Unfortunately, it can't be said anymore.  Phillies beat the Mets 12-6 in 2007, but lost 7-11 in '08...yet somehow, won 3 more games then the Mets did this year, and the same more then the Phillies won last year.  I also hate how when people state why the Phillies win, it's always with the bats.  Their pitching this year has been greatly underestimated.  Good.  That's what I like, because pitching wins in the playoffs...that's why Hamels, Myers and Blanton picked up dominating wins over the Brewers.  3 pitchers combined for this....21 IP, 22K's, 4 BB's (amazingly, the 4th starter didn't BB anyone...) and 3 runs...1 of which was a 1 out bases loaded walk in the 1st by Brett Myers...who got out of the inning on the next batter.   Also, gotta give it up to Brad Lidge.  In that first game, he K'ed the first guy...then allowed a run after a walk and a couple singles.  Then K'ed the next two.  3 games, 3 IP, 4 K's, 0 BB...and that 1 ER...and 3 more saves for his perfect season.  Seriously, the guy came out shaky in that first game...and has since locked down on his jitters, got the next 2 to K (swinging no less at some really bad...but awesome...pitches) and has been stellar ever since. 

As I said before, this series comes down to pitching.  And in the case of the Phillies starters and their elite BP...I'll put all my money on them. 

Since: Jun 29, 2007
Posted on: October 8, 2008 11:50 am

Phillies set NLCS rotation

Solid analysis; clearly, you are correct - the Phillies shouldn't even bother.  I mean Myers with two-hits, two-runs over seven vs. the Brewers last week is garbage.  Same with Blanton - who needs six innings of five-hit, one-run ball with seven Ks.  I don't even want to talk about Manny, what with his six hits in 24 ABs (2 for 13 in Philly) versus the Phils this year.  Nice work with all the caps as well.

Clearly as a Dodgers fan you are a bit bias.  The truth is that these teams are very evenly matched.  The Dodgers probably have slightly better (read:  more consistent) starting pitching and late leads will be tough for the Phils to overcome with Kuo (assuming he is back) and Broxton.  Don't overlook the Phillies starters though.  Hamels is an ace and Myers is right behind him (when he is going good).  Moyer was great this season and Blanton was 3-0 with a decent 4.22 ERA in 12 starts with the Phils.  The Phillies bullpen was among the best in all of baseball this season.

Offensively, I give the edge to the Phils.  Howard, Utley and Rollins are among the very best at their respective positions.  3B has been a bit of a blackhole for the Phillies for years but they probably aren't far behind the Blake/DeWitt platoon.  LA has the edge in the outfield with Ramirez a bit ahead of Burrell but pretty even stuff in CF and RF. 

Bottom line - Neither team was able to win in the other team's house this season.  They had identical 48-33 records at home, however, the Dodgers played nine game UNDER .500 on the road while the Phils were seven games OVER .500.  The Dodgers were very impressive in beating the Cubs but they finished the regular season six games over .500 in the worst division in baseball (not an opinion, the NL West had the worst winning percentage in baseball this season).  Overall, I think the Phillies win the series in six games.


Since: Sep 10, 2008
Posted on: October 8, 2008 11:38 am

Phillies set NLCS rotation

You Are A Moron.  Brett Myers And Joe Blanton Pitched Lights Out Against The Potent Milwaukee Brewers Offense And Manny Ramirez Hit .212 Against The Phillies In A Dodgers Uniform This Year.  Get A Clue. Phillies In 6. GO PHILS!!!!

Since: Sep 10, 2008
Posted on: October 8, 2008 11:35 am

Phillies set NLCS rotation

Uhhhh... You Are A Moron, Did You See What Brett Myers And Joe Blanton Did To The Brewers?  I'll Admit The Dodgers Have A Formidable Lineup, But The Brewers Are Filled With Home Run Threats, And Besides A 7th Inning Bomb To Prince Fielder, The Two Pitchers Completely Shut Down That Potent Offense. Get A Clue Before You Start Posting Info That Makes No Sense. F.Y.I. Manny Ramirez Hit .212 Against The Phillies In A Dodgers Uniform This Year.

Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: October 8, 2008 11:34 am

Phillies set NLCS rotation

but atleast he had a gold glove caliber season.

Since when are gold gloves considered for award given to players at the plate....

i see what ur getting at with the RBIs and how power hitters dont have speed and average normally... this is all true, but thEE MVP is supposed to be thEE most valuable player, not a one-dimensional guy that does one thing well

Well, considering that Ryan Howard's surge in numbers, his clutch homers (especially in September) is what carried this team into the playoffs over the Mets...and taking 2 out 3 batting titles head and shoulders above everyone else....that's MVP worthy. 

As for being a one-dimensional guy, some players are like that.  Howard does what he does because he's one of the best at it, and in creating RBI's and HR's...he is THE BEST in 2008 because of it.  Baseball changes my friend.  Pitching ERA's go up and down over the decades, so does league batting averages.  It's just the nature of the game.  One person comes in, is not good at all for hitting for average...but puts up a boatload of RBI's for his team, and to add to that is one of the fastest players in MLB history to hit for numbers like he has in the number of games he has.

Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: October 8, 2008 11:28 am

Phillies set NLCS rotation

but is a guy that cant do anything but hit homers really MVP worthy? and its not like he blew the rest of the league away in HRs either

actually, he did blow them away.  He was by a fairly large margin the leader in HR's and RBI's.

8 more HR's (48 to 40) over the next HR hitter in the NL, Adam Dunn.  That's a 1/6 more.  11 more then the AL's top HR hitter, Miguel Cabrera. 

Also, he had 16 more RBI's then AL leader Josh Hamilton, and a whooping 22 more RBI's more then the next guy in the NL who is sitting at home in October...David Wright.

Considering the numbers and percentages more in both categories...yeh, he pretty much blew everyone away.  Even more so, he did while having bad first two months. 

You could mention his K's, but in reality, he has gotten better from last year at not K'ing as much.  Even though he tied his career high from last year (199...which is no longer the record, it is now a guy who had about 80 less at bats then Howard this year).  But last year, in 144 games, he had 529 AB's with 199 K's.  This year, 18 more games, 81 more AB's (ironic number....)...same amount of K's.  True he does K a lot, but he has improved...and his numbers are higher from last years to show for it.  That and he completely ran away with 2 out of the 3 batting titles this year. 

Since: Feb 13, 2007
Posted on: October 8, 2008 11:02 am

Phillies set NLCS rotation

You're ghey and diranged.

Since: Jan 16, 2008
Posted on: October 8, 2008 11:01 am

Phillies set NLCS rotation

Do you have any clue as to what you are talking about?  Myers was dominant the 2nd half of the year.  Blanton has not lost a game as a Phillie.  Both of them completely shut down the Brewers in the NLDS.  This should be a competitive serious.  Before you make ridiculous comments do some research.  And by the way Manny is an idiot.  PHILLIES IN 6

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