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Oakland acquires Holliday from Colorado

Posted on: November 10, 2008 3:32 pm
Edited on: November 10, 2008 9:14 pm

The ever-unpredictable Oakland Athletics have acquired slugger Matt Holliday from Colorado, sources with knowledge of the talks have confirmed to,, pending the outfielder's passing a physical examination on Tuesday.

The Rockies will receive outfielder Carlos Gonzalez, left-handed pitcher Greg Smith and closer Huston Street in return, though they may not keep Street. One source said Monday that the Rockies are prepared to turn around and trade him -- though to which team he wasn't sure.

St. Louis, the New York Mets, Detroit, Cleveland and Tampa Bay are among the clubs in the market for a closer this winter, though the Tigers do not appear to be involved with Street.

The early strike for Holliday is a bold move for an Oakland club that finished third in the AL West last year, 24 1/2 games behind the Los Angeles Angels.

But the Athletics are attempting to win public support for a new stadium and are telling other clubs that they intend to increase their payroll significantly for 2009 in an effort to contend. The A's opened 2008 with a payroll of about $48 million.

In Holliday, who batted .321 with a .409 on-base percentage, 25 homers and 88 RBI, the Athletics almost certainly are gaining a one-year rental player. Holliday, due $13 million in 2008, rebuffed Colorado's attempts to sign him to a long-term extension and, with Scott Boras as his agent, he is expected to test the free-agent market after the 2009 season.

That, though, fits with some of Oakland's past strategy under general manager Billy Beane, who has mostly eschewed long-term contractual commitments to players because of the A's ever-present financial constraints. He has been aggressive at times, however, in acquiring high-end talent for the short-term.

Pitcher Kevin Appier (1999), outfielder Johnny Damon (2001) and Frank Thomas (2006) all fit under this operating philosophy, but the major difference between them and Holliday is that they were not acquired when the A's were this far off of the pace in the AL West.

Of course, the Athletics figure to have an out, too: If they fall out of the race before the July 31 trade deadline next summer, they'll have a valuable trade chip that Beane can flip for prospects.

While Oakland ratchets things up, clearly, Colorado is in transition mode. Losing Holliday -- general manager Dan O'Dowd informed the slugger of the trade earlier Monday -- leaves a big hole in the middle of Clint Hurdle's lineup.

The Rockies like Gonzalez a lot, but he's a different style of player than Holliday and much younger.

"He can play center field or right field, either place," one scout said. "He's a left-handed hitting prospect, he's only 23 ... he's got a chance to be pretty good."

As for Smith, the scout said, "He actually fits better in the National League, I think. He controls the running game, he's got a good pickoff move, and the guy can hit. I think he'll end up as a No. 5 starter or as a long man in the bullpen."


Since: Sep 9, 2008
Posted on: November 11, 2008 6:37 pm

Oakland acquires Holliday from Colorado

Umm Utley is signed until 2014.  Where the hell did you see that his contract was up anytime soon?

Since: May 21, 2007
Posted on: November 11, 2008 1:14 pm

Oakland acquires Holliday from Colorado

He was gone for sure after one year anyway, so why not get something for him rather than just a couple of draft picks? I'm an A's fan, and while of course it's very exciting to have this kind of a marquee player joining a franchise that was in a bit of a funk, I don't understand it. Why give up potential for just one year of Holliday? There will need to be some filling in around the edges, some other trades to give this one year a chance of being great, for this thing to make any sense at all. Right now it's a big "No comprendo!" on my part!

Since: Jun 16, 2008
Posted on: November 11, 2008 12:00 pm

Oakland acquires Holliday from Colorado

Makes me ill.  It is hard to follow a team if they can't pay a player that is on the upswing and a great man in the community.  Matt was the cornerstone of a team with great potential that will fall to mediocre now. Sick

Since: Nov 21, 2007
Posted on: November 11, 2008 11:24 am

Oakland acquires Holliday from Colorado


I do agree it's a bad deal- but you have to be a little more rational.  Holliday on his own does not equal 15 wins for this team.  Maybe if you're talking about CC Sabathia or something.  Do you really think Troy will never produce offensively? C'mon man he hit over .300 after the break and hit almost all his HR's.  You're injury statement is just stupid.  He hurt his groin in a cold game- can happen to anyone.  Then, he smashed a bat and cut his hand to put him out another 2-3 weeks.  thats not the injury bug- like having shoulder or elbow problems. 

Do you really see Ian Sterwart being the odd man out? No way.  Not after how he finished.  I bet Atkins will be gone soon too- and he will play third.  If not, maybe he plays LF.  Seriously, a possibility.

Id expect more of:
Stewart (in some fashion)/ Barmes
Whoever is left to fill in

And, FYI, the Giants are the Royals of the NL.  And guess what? Right now, everyone in baseball is tied with 0 wins.

The A's wont keep Holliday past this year- and if things go south fast for them expect them to deal him somewhere else.

Since: Sep 19, 2007
Posted on: November 11, 2008 11:13 am

Oakland acquires Holliday from Colorado

Pat Burrell is a free agent.

Since: Sep 17, 2008
Posted on: November 11, 2008 8:29 am

Oakland acquires Holliday from Colorado

While at first glance this seems "sexy" for Oakland.  I think this trade is plain stupid.  I don't see how it fits?  This is a team that needs more than one player to make a run at the title!  Plus, it will take more than one year!  Beane better have another move to make in this chess game or it will be "check" real soon.  Maybe a small market team like the Twins could make an argument that they are a "Holiday" away from a run at the Series but not Oakland!

Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: November 11, 2008 2:42 am

Oakland acquires Holliday from Colorado

This past season the Athletics didn't have anyone who could hit for power or average. Getting Holliday who does both clearly makes sense. This is just like when the Red Sox got rid of Manny Ramirez and replaced him with Jason Bay. Jason Bay could not hit for power or average in the post seeason and the Red Sox didn't make it to the World Series. Having a batter who can drive in runs and get on base is a fundamental part of baseball. I wonder if this means that the Athletics will purse a trade for Jake Peavy.

Since: Apr 26, 2007
Posted on: November 11, 2008 1:34 am

Oakland acquires Holliday from Colorado

Here is my take on this.  First of all I don't blame Holliday.  The offered him good money but would not give him more than 4 years.  He is going to get 7 or 8 years after this contract expires.  Second I don't blame Dan O'Dowd either.  He got what he could for Holliday.  His hand was forced by the Rockies greedy owners.  The Monfort brothers are the ones to blame for this.  They have been telling us for the last 5 years just wait, be patient we are going to build a contender from within.  Well you are getting close and then you let one of the top 5 payers in baseball go for more young talent.  If they were serious about winning now this deal would not have been made.  This deal makes our team considerably worse in 2009.  If they wanted to win they keep Holliday through at least the trade deadline this coming season.  If they are contending they keep him all year and make a run by adding a few pieces at the deadline.  Then after the season is over if you lose Holliday via free agency you get two 1st picks as compensation.  That is just as good as what we got out of this deal.  If we are out of it at the trade deadline we can move Holliday then.  Teams tend to overpay for these types of players if they think it is the last piece they need to contend for a title.  What are we going to do with these prospects.  Develope them for the next 3 or 4 years.  Then just as they are emerging as legit MLB players Tulowitzki's 5 year deal will be close to over and they will move him for more prospects before we lose him.  It is a neverending cycle of mediocricy!!!!  Monfort's please SELL THIS TEAM to someone who wants to win.  You could start with Stan Kroenke.  I am pretty sure he would be interested.  He does need some summer programming for his TV and Radio networks.  PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE I beg you.  Get serious abou winning or sell. 

Since: Jul 14, 2008
Posted on: November 11, 2008 1:28 am

This just makes me sick.

What are the Rockies thinking?  Awful Awful trade on their part. 

A few points.

1.  The Rockies are in the worst division.  A player like Holliday can make the difference between a 70 win season and an 85 win season..... 85 wins will be enough in the NL West next season.  Rockies, Padres, and Giants will all be lucky to get 60 wins next season. 

2.  Tulo??? He is our franchise player?  Give me a break, he plays a mean SS but I dont know if he will ever produce offensively.  Plus he showed signs of the injury bug last season.

3.  Rockies Line-up 1-8   1. Taveras? 2. Tulo 3. Spilborghs 4. Atkins 5. Helton 6. Ianneta 7. Seth Smith? 8. Barmes... Really good, now Ian Stewart will be riding the pine.  Unless they bench Helton.

This is gross.  Rockies=Royals national league.

Nice Job Billy Beane.

Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: November 11, 2008 12:26 am

Oakland acquires Holliday from Colorado

Good trade for both teams. Holliday would have been gone after this year anyways, so the Rockies win by getting a future star center fielder with speed, power and a plus arm that should match Holliday's production in addition to getting a starter who eats innings and a reliever with proven success albeit not recently. The A's generate some excitement for both fans and other free agents who might consider them more seriously now, and they only give up players in positions where they had a surplus to begin with. If this season is a bust both teams have trade bait for a contender, although Holliday is worth a lot more closers and innings eaters are at least worth compensation picks.

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