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Oakland acquires Holliday from Colorado

Posted on: November 10, 2008 3:32 pm
Edited on: November 10, 2008 9:14 pm
 

The ever-unpredictable Oakland Athletics have acquired slugger Matt Holliday from Colorado, sources with knowledge of the talks have confirmed to, CBSSports.com, pending the outfielder's passing a physical examination on Tuesday.

The Rockies will receive outfielder Carlos Gonzalez, left-handed pitcher Greg Smith and closer Huston Street in return, though they may not keep Street. One source said Monday that the Rockies are prepared to turn around and trade him -- though to which team he wasn't sure.

St. Louis, the New York Mets, Detroit, Cleveland and Tampa Bay are among the clubs in the market for a closer this winter, though the Tigers do not appear to be involved with Street.

The early strike for Holliday is a bold move for an Oakland club that finished third in the AL West last year, 24 1/2 games behind the Los Angeles Angels.

But the Athletics are attempting to win public support for a new stadium and are telling other clubs that they intend to increase their payroll significantly for 2009 in an effort to contend. The A's opened 2008 with a payroll of about $48 million.

In Holliday, who batted .321 with a .409 on-base percentage, 25 homers and 88 RBI, the Athletics almost certainly are gaining a one-year rental player. Holliday, due $13 million in 2008, rebuffed Colorado's attempts to sign him to a long-term extension and, with Scott Boras as his agent, he is expected to test the free-agent market after the 2009 season.

That, though, fits with some of Oakland's past strategy under general manager Billy Beane, who has mostly eschewed long-term contractual commitments to players because of the A's ever-present financial constraints. He has been aggressive at times, however, in acquiring high-end talent for the short-term.

Pitcher Kevin Appier (1999), outfielder Johnny Damon (2001) and Frank Thomas (2006) all fit under this operating philosophy, but the major difference between them and Holliday is that they were not acquired when the A's were this far off of the pace in the AL West.

Of course, the Athletics figure to have an out, too: If they fall out of the race before the July 31 trade deadline next summer, they'll have a valuable trade chip that Beane can flip for prospects.

While Oakland ratchets things up, clearly, Colorado is in transition mode. Losing Holliday -- general manager Dan O'Dowd informed the slugger of the trade earlier Monday -- leaves a big hole in the middle of Clint Hurdle's lineup.

The Rockies like Gonzalez a lot, but he's a different style of player than Holliday and much younger.

"He can play center field or right field, either place," one scout said. "He's a left-handed hitting prospect, he's only 23 ... he's got a chance to be pretty good."

As for Smith, the scout said, "He actually fits better in the National League, I think. He controls the running game, he's got a good pickoff move, and the guy can hit. I think he'll end up as a No. 5 starter or as a long man in the bullpen."

Comments

Since: Jan 24, 2008
Posted on: November 10, 2008 6:55 pm
 

Oakland acquires Holliday from Colorado

Well - this will do wonders for his fantasy value...but in a bad way out of coors field,oakland park is a pitchers park  ibet mr matt holliday  wont be a top 5 fantasy of ....not in oakalnd!!!

actually i think they got him for pocket change!!!!! oakland gm is a thief!!!!lol




Since: Dec 20, 2006
Posted on: November 10, 2008 6:54 pm
 

Oakland acquires Holliday from Colorado

Wow...awesome post.  So you won your second world series in the past 103 years...pretty impressive.  I never stopped to think that there was a franchise that sucked more than the Cubs but the Phillies certainly fit the bill even with the most recent WS. 



Since: Mar 2, 2008
Posted on: November 10, 2008 6:39 pm
 

Oakland acquires Holliday from Colorado

I hate to see him leave Coors field too, but he will be in a contract year. Hopefully the average and total bases will stay up there in the top of the league. He should still hit 30-35 hr's. I've had him as a cornerstone in my lineup for three years and don't think I'll be willing to give him up despite the change of scenery.  Maybe this is just a move by Oakland to deal him elsewhere?



Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: November 10, 2008 6:21 pm
 

Oakland acquires Holliday from Colorado

Always look ahead... if Holliday leaves after next season, Oakland could get Type A compensatory picks. That's a first round supplemental and the highest pick (after #15) belonging to the team that signs him. I'd make that deal anyday, especially from strengths. If it wasn't for Buck's impressive September, I'd say the A's would be best off with LF-Holliday, CF-Denorfia, RF-Sweeney. If Buck looks the part in spring then it should be LF-Holliday, CF-Sweeney, RF-Buck.

Even then, I like the lineup better with Denorfia because I'd bat him leadoff followed by Sweeney, Holliday, and Cust. That gives two high on-base% guys with some speed in front of Holliday and a decent cleanup hitter to protect him. All of the sudden, the health and productivity of Eric Chavez could be a huge factor. You know the A's have relief pitching. You know they can improve their starting pitching with 2 call-ups *cough* Cahill/Anderson *cough* and/or a free agent signing/further trades. Do they now also have some top-notch run production to go with it? Watch out, AL West.



Since: Jul 26, 2007
Posted on: November 10, 2008 6:15 pm
 

Oakland acquires Holliday from Colorado

     Most of you are overreacting BIGTIME on this aquisition...My god, people it's a THREE for ONE trade! The Rocks gain ailing, yet precious LHP in Greg Smith, and a bonafide although recently struggling closer in Street- who are both still moderately young....Colorado also gets a top-flight 23 year old OF prospect who may already possess the tools needed to start immediately and make a huge splash in the NL with a young and up-and-coming franchise in Carlos Gonzalez. Gonzo's fielding is as enticing as his skills at the plate, too-which is sorely needed in COL. Street stands to at least double his save total of 18 from last season for Colorado if he sticks and is annointed the closer...Corpas and Street together would be a great combination for the 8th and 9th inning, no matter which order they utilize them. If they were to retain (FA) RP Fuentes, which is unlikely; or go out and get an RPout of the bountiful pool of proven free agent set-up men-they could easily start shutting down games in the 7th inning with a dominant trio of RPs...Keep your eyes peeled for Steven Register to assume a greater role if they don't get more help in the bullpen. Remember, Colorado has much invested in their closer of the future, Casey Weathers. The #1 Draft Pick of 2007 has flown through the system and should be ready to make a serious impact as early as next year sometime...In just over one full MiLB season-Weathers has 61 Ks in 50 IP w/a decent ERA and low BBs. So technically, I think the Rockies won in this trade because they got quantity. Their OF takes a big hit-but they should be fine going forward with Gonzo, Hawpe, Spilborghs, and Taveras (if he stays)...they also have emerging outfielder Seth Smith and rookie sensation Dexter Fowler -who IS the REAL DEAL, folks. Perhaps the notion of moving Baker or even Ian Stewart around to produce another OF somehow is in the works. I think they still have "Pods",too- and if you can imagine the ground that he, Fowler and Taveras would cover in Coors Field undoubtedly would be the fastest OF in the NL, if not all of baseball! Don't think for a second that the Rockies are done with hot stove season action,either. Legend has it from my sources close to the organization say that Atkins is being shopped, which would free up a ton of loot to play with and get EVEN MORE depth...Sadly, aging, overpaid, and underproducing 1B Todd Helton IS coming back...However, I think the Rocks will be just fine, although they lose a potent young face of the club in M.H. Don't be surprised if the A's turn around and deal him to STL, who was the frontrunner for the deal to begin with; alas COL and STL could not meet an agreement. Ludwick, Schumaker, and Ankiel...any combination of these guys could end up in Oakland instead of Holliday-so don't get your hopes up that Matt stays an Athletic...It was young upstart RP Chris Perez that the Redbirds were not willing to part with that killed the negotiations with Colorado. I really hate to say it, but as we all know the Yanks are NOT out of the bidding yet, although it may be later in midseason before they reach a deal for Holliday.  This is an outstanding move for Colorado, and a very strategic play for Beane and Oakland, who may not be done with deals yet, either! Stay tuned. GO ROCKIES!! 



Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: November 10, 2008 6:10 pm
 

Oakland acquires Holliday from Colorado

I wouldn't go as far as saying that Greg Smith and Carlos Gonzalez are mediocre.  Don't forget that they were both in their rookie season.  Smith went on to lead the league in pickoffs and Gonzalez' first 7 hits went for extra bases.  They both have plenty of upside.  Huston Street will never throw a pitch for the Colorado Rockies.  I wouldn't mind him pitching for the St. Louis Cardinals. 



Since: Feb 14, 2008
Posted on: November 10, 2008 6:05 pm
 

Oakland acquires Holliday from Colorado

I am so excited to hear about this trade! This may be a good trade long term for the Rockies, especially considering that Holliday may not have stayed with the Rockies past next year. Gonzalez is a very good center fielder, with good defense and speed. He has the potential to produce 20HRs, 100runs, 100rbi, 30SBs, and 50 doubles while batting about .280-.300 within a few years, and could benefit from the tutelage of Helton.

Smith was a rookie last year, and it is clear he will be a good #2 or a #3 pitcher, especially in the NL West. He is not a power pitcher, but pitches well when he hits his spots. His poor record this year (7-16) was more of an indication of the unproductive A's offense. He had a poor first inning ERA (over 5), and the A's offense could rarely dig out of those holes. After the first inning, his ERA is around 3.0. The knocks on him are his high pitch counts and walks, but many great pitchers have started off their first season or two that way. He also would have done much worse without his wicked pickoff move to first -- he picked off something like 15 runners during this past season. Many times this season, he deflated a big inning by picking runners off. Which is good, because he doesn't pitch well with runners on base -- he has a 14.5 ERA with RISP.

Huston Street is a wildcard. Remember he is a former rookie of the year, when he had a ERA under 1.8. His slider is devastating when it's working well, but he can be inconsistent with it. His last 2 seasons have been very inconsistent, and a change of scenery may be the best thing for him. The A's have a strong bullpen, although young, so they could afford to offer him up.

The A's really needed a big bat in the middle of their lineup, and here it is! Go A's!!



Since: Oct 18, 2008
Posted on: November 10, 2008 5:59 pm
 

Oakland acquires Holliday from Colorado

If this article is true, then the yanks may still have a shot at him next year. I can think of another big name Boras' player that signed with them. I just hope if he does end up with them that he's as clutch as A-Rod and wins as many world series as he has! I live in Colorado so I've seen  a lot of Matt Holiday and I can say Oakland, you are getting a really good hitter, average outfielder, but most important, a good teamate. Nice pick up.



Since: Nov 10, 2008
Posted on: November 10, 2008 5:45 pm
 

Oakland acquires Holliday from Colorado

Well, you have received three decent players, two with youth and potential, and Street, a relief pitcher who is pretty effective, and overall great, but this last year had a rough season losing his job as Closer, while still helping to hold the bullpen together. I believe that Street is about twenty five ( approx ) and has pretty good stuff. Definately has the mentality of a closer and has shown that to A's fans for the last four years now. When I think of the great closers of todays' game I would think of, Papelbon, Rivera, K-rod and Street. Street has a great approach to closing games out but like I said earlier, had some problems this last year. I don't know if it was mental or what. I don't think it was mechanical, though it could be. I feel that it was probably mental. I think that Street has the capability to overcome this though, and will show that he has many years of closing games out to go still. Hope it helps. A's fan P.S. Not to forget about Gonzales and Smith. I saw first hand last year how Gonzales has the potential to become a great player. He can hit and field with the best of them; and Smith, a lefty starter who had some great games last year, but every time he started a game, the rest of the team failed to show up. ie: run support, defense, etc. I think Smith has great stuff on the mound and with age on his side, I think he'll have many years of productivity. Have a great off season. A's fan.




Since: Nov 10, 2008
Posted on: November 10, 2008 5:36 pm
 

Oakland acquires Holliday from Colorado

You know Billy Beane made that trade so he can demand 2-3 Stud prospects before the trading deadline. There is no way that offense can compete in the American League for a full season.


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