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Braves, Padres near Peavy deal

Posted on: November 12, 2008 10:48 pm

The Atlanta Braves, full-steam ahead in their pursuit of right-hander Jake Peavy, are offering a four-player package of players, and San Diego is expected to request that Peavy waive his no-trade clause so the deal can be completed, has learned.

Barry Axelrod, Peavy's agent, said Wednesday evening that he had not spoken with Padres general manager Kevin Towers. And if that conversation takes place on Thursday, it still may be a bit before the Padres and Braves receive an answer -- Peavy is scheduled to fly home from a trip to Puerto Rico and will be traveling much of the day.

Under terms of the deal discussed by the Braves and Padres, San Diego would receive shortstop Yunel Escobar, Class A outfielder Gorkys Hernandez, one of two starting pitchers -- Charlie Morton or Jo-Jo Reyes -- and either reliever Blaine Boyer or one of two minor-league left-handers (one of which is believed to be Jeff Locke).

In addition to Escobar and Hernandez, it is believed that the Padres, if the deal is completed, will opt for Morton, a 25-year-old right-hander who was 4-8 with a 6.15 ERA in 16 appearances -- 15 starts -- in 2008. They also are said to be leaning toward Boyer, a 27-year-old right-hander who was one of manager Bobby Cox's chief workhorses last season, finishing tied for ninth in the NL with 76 appearances.

Though Padres scouts like Locke, he's only 21 and not yet ready for the majors. The Padres' bullpen was deeply disappointing last season and, now, with iconic closer Trevor Hoffman apparently having pitched his last game for the Padres, is close to being in complete disarray.

The Braves have been pressuring the Padres for an answer by Friday, when the free agent market opens, because they need at least two starters -- and they want to know whether Peavy will be a Brave before they dive in. They are expected to pursue A.J. Burnett, Ryan Dempster and others -- and sign maybe one if they acquire Peavy, and two if they don't.

However, now the spotlight is close to swinging to Peavy, whose preference is said to be in Chicago with the Cubs. However, internally, the Padres view the Cubs' offer -- believed to include outfielder Felix Pie, infielder Ronny Cedeno and left-hander Sean Marshall, as being nowhere close to that of the Braves.

Whether Peavy agrees to accept a deal to Atlanta could become contingent on any number of things, including Atlanta guaranteeing Peavy's $22 million option for 2013, a full-no trade clause or travel considerations for Peavy's wife and children (the Peavys intend to keep their full-time home in San Diego, according to Axelrod).

Peavy, 27, won the NL Cy Young award following the 2007 season in a unanimous vote. Though a strained elbow shelved him for part of 2008, he still compiled a 2.85 ERA in 27 starts, finishing 10-11 for a Padres club that lost 99 games.

Considered one of the game's few true aces when he's healthy, Peavy has compiled ERAs of 2.88 or lower in four of the past five seasons.

In Atlanta, he would help accomplish Braves GM Frank Wren's goal of getting back to what the club was known for in the 1990s, a strong starting rotation.

Morton was part of that rotation for part of '08, and the Braves had envisioned him remaining there. Atlanta's third-round pick in the 2002 draft, Morton is a "stuff" guy -- his fastball reaches into the upper-90s -- but he also throws a big curve and, over the past two years, has made significant strides in his command.

Atlanta's willingness to include Escobar in the package has been a surprise to some, because the Braves traded a solid shortstop prospect, Elvis Andrus, in the package to Texas for Mark Teixeira in 2007. At that time, Escobar was viewed as Atlanta's shortstop of the future.

Though Escobar hit .288 with a .366 on-base percentage, 10 homers and 60 RBI, he committed 16 errors for the Braves in what many considered a disappointing '08 season. Cox is said to have become disenchanted with him, which no doubt played a part in the fact that the Braves would part with Escobar.



Since: Jan 23, 2007
Posted on: November 13, 2008 12:41 pm

Braves, Padres near Peavy deal

I shouldn't be posting on these boards, but I will anyway.

I work in baseball - I know Ryan Dempster.

And while I can't guarantee that he won't leave the Cubs for more years or a higher anual salary, I can tell you that he has a great relationship with Jim Hendry. And that relationship will make it very difficult for him to accept an offer from another team --- especially if it's a similar offer he is receiving from the Cubs.

As for the Cubs albatross salaries and the team being sold. Pick up a newspaper. The credit crisis has stalled the sale of the team because the bids that were alread in place -- bids that topped $1 billion --- were made when the cost of money was lower. New bids have been placed --- lower bids--- with the current cost of money being taken into account. Sam Zell has since been weighing his options and reports are saying that he will either sell only half the team or he will wait for the market to pick up...

And also. Use some common sense. Please. If the Cubs were willing to take on four years of Jake Peavy at a yearly rate of $15-17 million ... then that means they must have room in their budget to pay a pitcher that type of money... If they don't obtain Peavy, the team wouldn't lose that money in the budget and it could go to Dempster.

Since: Nov 7, 2008
Posted on: November 13, 2008 12:35 pm

Braves, Padres near Peavy deal

"This deal stinks. If the Padres are really agreeing to this, they deserve to be in last place."

this really isnt a good deal for the Pads...but since Im a Dodgers would be nice to get Peavy out of the NL West. Too bad the Padres arent dumb enough to send Peavy up the freeway to LA.

"The Braves are the only team who can offer enough talent to the Padres outside of the AL teams"

Not true. I think that the Angels could definitely swoop down and offer The Pads a good deal for Peavy. They could offer Jered Weaver (a Boros client that the Angels Im sure, do not want to get into another bidding war with when he becomes elig for FA), either one of 3 shortstops (Aybar, Maicer Izturis, or Brandon Wood), and Reggie Willits. These are guys that are under the team control for still another 3 to 4 years and can play now. Very good, inexpensive players...the Braves deal cant match for Major League ready players...but if he Pads want minor leagers and kids in return..then I say take the Braves offer.

Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: November 13, 2008 12:35 pm

Braves, Padres near Peavy deal

Peavy to the Braves is strictly a salary move.  There is no need to pay him in San Diego because they are too many years out of contention.  Plus, Escobar is going to be a stud and Reyes will be a quality starter.

This almost mirrors the move by Colorado in getting rid of Holliday.  They would never sign him after next year anyway, and this way they get 3 players, plus they will trade Street for several more.

Both are good moves on teams intent on cutting salary.

Since: Aug 24, 2008
Posted on: November 13, 2008 12:11 pm

Braves, Padres near Peavy deal

And I bet you  never thought that Santana would be traded to the Mets based on their offer.  Do you watch baseball and do you understand that this owner is running a fire sale because he is getting his clock cleaned in a divorce?

Stranger things have happened.......

Since: Oct 29, 2008
Posted on: November 13, 2008 11:50 am

Braves, Padres near Peavy deal

We gotta do something.  Peavy would be a great addition, but we need more, alot more.  My best friend is a Mets fan and I am tired of his sh*t talking.  Not saying the Mets are good but they have been better than us the last couple years.  We need to get back to the Braves team of the 90's.  Bring back Maz.  Pitching, pitching, pitching!

Since: Jan 18, 2008
Posted on: November 13, 2008 11:37 am

Braves, Padres near Peavy deal

Interesting (if true) that San Diego sees that deal as far superior to Chicago.  I can only guess one of those unnamed lefties is a young stud.  Other than Reyes, who has shown flashes, the other pitchers are just a bunch of arms.  A poor fielding shortstop and big time prospect don't seem that exciting to me.

Since: Jul 29, 2008
Posted on: November 13, 2008 11:17 am

Braves, Padres near Peavy deal

As a Braves fan, I'd prefer to see Morton stay and Reyes get shipped out in this deal, but I doubt that will happen. It sounds like Escobar, Morton, Hernandez, and Boyer to me. That's a good deal for the Braves I believe. It leaves us in a spot where we have to sign a SS now too because Lillibridge isn't ready. Although, after watching him play last season, I think we could do a lot worse than having Omar Infante start at SS. I'd love to see us land Peavy then get either Lowe or Burnett to come in as well. Still looking for that power bat in the left field spot too. Wren will probably have to get a little creative to get that hole filled. I think our willingness to trade Hernandez means Schafer is gonna be locked in in CF next year. Blanco is OK, but its time to see what Schafer's got. I love that we aren't having to include Flowers, Heyward, Freeman, or Hanson in this deal. Those are the true gems in our minor league system.

Since: Dec 19, 2006
Posted on: November 13, 2008 10:57 am

Braves, Padres near Peavy deal

Admittedly, a Braves fan, but look at it this way:

Peavy is owed at least $59 million over the next 4 years, and if he requires a team to guarantee a 5th year at 22 million, that's $81 million over the next 5 years.  And what are the Braves getting at $16+ million/year for 5 years?   A guy who's showing signs of breaking down?  A guy who missed several weeks with an elbow injury?  A guy who's possibly a product of his home park?  Look at the splits last season:

Home: ERA of 1.75, WHIP of under 1
Away: ERA of 4.28, WHIP approaching 1.5

Some will say he's in his prime, but he's turning 28 and has already logged ~1300 major league innings.  He's a power pitcher, but he's not a big workhorse at only 6'1".  And his delivery says injury prone all over it.

And then look at Escobar.  He was rated as the 3rd best defensive shortstop in baseball last season.  And he's a guy you can bat at the top of a lineup (Career OBP = .377 and OPS = .797).  And he's only 26 and he's going to be cheap for another couple of years.

And then look at Gorkys Hernandez.  He just turned 21 and stole 50+ bases as a 20 year old in A ball.  He has tremendous range in the outfield.  If he hits like people expect, then he might end up being the best player in this deal.  He's rated as a top 100 prospect by Scouting Book (#82 overall/#15 outfielder), Baseball Prospectus (#83), Baseball America (#92), and ESPN (#99).  If the Padres are looking for a center field prospect, then who are they going to realistically be able to land that's better than this kid (compare that to 23 year old Felix Pie who's unranked by any of the scouting services and who's basically being tabbed as a bottom of the order defensive centerfielder).

And Morton is never going to be Peavy, but you also can't judge him by the stats he put up in his first partial season in the majors.  He's not that young (25), but he's got a nice frame that still needs to be filled out (6'4"/190 lbs).  He's a guy that can develop into a 3rd or 4th pitcher, and probably put up nice stats in a park like Petco.

It's not a deal that San Diego can't pass up, but if they need to dump salary, at least they're getting a young shortstop that can bat at the top of their lineup and who they don't have to pay for a few years.  And they're  getting one of the best centerfield prospects in all of baseball.  And they're getting a young pitcher that they can insert into their lineup as early as next year.

If you have the money, you say no thanks and keep the ace pitcher.  If you need to dump salar, then who's making a better offer?

Since: Nov 13, 2008
Posted on: November 13, 2008 10:54 am

Braves, Padres near Peavy deal

The Braves need Peavy badly because the rotation sucked last year due to some injuries. John Smotlz started out great but was lost for year, Tom Glavine was OK but was lost for a while due to injury! The Braves need Peavy bad and someone else like AJ Burnett.

Since: Jan 5, 2007
Posted on: November 13, 2008 10:47 am

Braves, Padres near Peavy deal

All of you Padre fans overlooking Morton just hasnt seen him pitch yet. He's a year away from getting All-star consideration imo. I hope the Pads take Reyes instead but they are not idiots. As a Braves fan I am just holding my breath that Wren doesnt cave in with Hanson.

P.S. I respect all of the Cubbie fans that post here but it looks like Greg Maddux all over again. You guys really insulted Dempster by asking him for a discount.

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