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Braves, Padres near Peavy deal

Posted on: November 12, 2008 10:48 pm

The Atlanta Braves, full-steam ahead in their pursuit of right-hander Jake Peavy, are offering a four-player package of players, and San Diego is expected to request that Peavy waive his no-trade clause so the deal can be completed, has learned.

Barry Axelrod, Peavy's agent, said Wednesday evening that he had not spoken with Padres general manager Kevin Towers. And if that conversation takes place on Thursday, it still may be a bit before the Padres and Braves receive an answer -- Peavy is scheduled to fly home from a trip to Puerto Rico and will be traveling much of the day.

Under terms of the deal discussed by the Braves and Padres, San Diego would receive shortstop Yunel Escobar, Class A outfielder Gorkys Hernandez, one of two starting pitchers -- Charlie Morton or Jo-Jo Reyes -- and either reliever Blaine Boyer or one of two minor-league left-handers (one of which is believed to be Jeff Locke).

In addition to Escobar and Hernandez, it is believed that the Padres, if the deal is completed, will opt for Morton, a 25-year-old right-hander who was 4-8 with a 6.15 ERA in 16 appearances -- 15 starts -- in 2008. They also are said to be leaning toward Boyer, a 27-year-old right-hander who was one of manager Bobby Cox's chief workhorses last season, finishing tied for ninth in the NL with 76 appearances.

Though Padres scouts like Locke, he's only 21 and not yet ready for the majors. The Padres' bullpen was deeply disappointing last season and, now, with iconic closer Trevor Hoffman apparently having pitched his last game for the Padres, is close to being in complete disarray.

The Braves have been pressuring the Padres for an answer by Friday, when the free agent market opens, because they need at least two starters -- and they want to know whether Peavy will be a Brave before they dive in. They are expected to pursue A.J. Burnett, Ryan Dempster and others -- and sign maybe one if they acquire Peavy, and two if they don't.

However, now the spotlight is close to swinging to Peavy, whose preference is said to be in Chicago with the Cubs. However, internally, the Padres view the Cubs' offer -- believed to include outfielder Felix Pie, infielder Ronny Cedeno and left-hander Sean Marshall, as being nowhere close to that of the Braves.

Whether Peavy agrees to accept a deal to Atlanta could become contingent on any number of things, including Atlanta guaranteeing Peavy's $22 million option for 2013, a full-no trade clause or travel considerations for Peavy's wife and children (the Peavys intend to keep their full-time home in San Diego, according to Axelrod).

Peavy, 27, won the NL Cy Young award following the 2007 season in a unanimous vote. Though a strained elbow shelved him for part of 2008, he still compiled a 2.85 ERA in 27 starts, finishing 10-11 for a Padres club that lost 99 games.

Considered one of the game's few true aces when he's healthy, Peavy has compiled ERAs of 2.88 or lower in four of the past five seasons.

In Atlanta, he would help accomplish Braves GM Frank Wren's goal of getting back to what the club was known for in the 1990s, a strong starting rotation.

Morton was part of that rotation for part of '08, and the Braves had envisioned him remaining there. Atlanta's third-round pick in the 2002 draft, Morton is a "stuff" guy -- his fastball reaches into the upper-90s -- but he also throws a big curve and, over the past two years, has made significant strides in his command.

Atlanta's willingness to include Escobar in the package has been a surprise to some, because the Braves traded a solid shortstop prospect, Elvis Andrus, in the package to Texas for Mark Teixeira in 2007. At that time, Escobar was viewed as Atlanta's shortstop of the future.

Though Escobar hit .288 with a .366 on-base percentage, 10 homers and 60 RBI, he committed 16 errors for the Braves in what many considered a disappointing '08 season. Cox is said to have become disenchanted with him, which no doubt played a part in the fact that the Braves would part with Escobar.



Since: Mar 19, 2008
Posted on: November 13, 2008 10:27 am

Braves, Padres near Peavy deal

RawDawg are you jealous that your team is not included in any rumors right now. Dempster will re-sign with Chicago because of him and Hendry relationship. They are very good friends and Dempster loves playing for the Cubs. He has a bunch of friends on the team and remember the only reason he is getting paid this year is because the Cubs showed complete faith in him to have him start again. Lou came out in spring training early and aid Dempster will be our number 3. Do you know how much heat he got for that. No one and i mean no one thought Dempster would have this kind of year but Lou and the Cubs showed faith in him. Trust me that is a huge deal when it comes to players re-signing. Also, yes the Cubs are looking for a discount but not that much. It isn like they are saying give us a 4 million dollar a year discount. If the Braves do get Peavy I guarantee Dempster will be a Cub next year again. Even if the Cubs did trade for Peavy we were going to go hard at signing Dempster and probably letting Wood go as much as that would sadden me.

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: November 13, 2008 10:08 am

Braves, Padres near Peavy deal

Let me guess, you're a cubs fan? That qualifies you as knowing absolutely nothing... Dempster is more than likely not going to re-sign with the cubs. That is not contingent on what Peavy does... Go back Startbucks and stop worrying about baseball because your team is irrelevant come October.

Since: Feb 29, 2008
Posted on: November 13, 2008 10:03 am

Braves, Padres near Peavy deal

the braves seriously need to pick up a big name, i would prefer Peavy, but if they cannot get him they better hit the free agent market big time.

Since: Sep 8, 2006
Posted on: November 13, 2008 9:59 am

Braves, Padres near Peavy deal

Wherever he goes (if he goes) the Padres will not get a marquee player in return. This is getting money off the books, both now and for the future. Bringing back a star-caliber player negates the salary dump. Look at what they're doing with Trevor Hoffman, a HOF closer. The guy has been the face of the organization since Tony Gwynn retired and the Padres seem to have no problem letting him go. This is the unfortunate situation for the Padres, and many MLB teams: sign a young guy to a longer contract because you want him for the long haul, then realize that you can't afford him after a couple of seasons so he gets traded. Management is reluctanct to offer long-term deals, and players are reluctant to take short-term deals. It's been that way for a while, and it will stay that way for a while. Hence, guys like Jake Peavy get traded in their prime for speculation players and single-A prospects.

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: November 13, 2008 9:54 am

Braves, Padres near Peavy deal

I believe the trade is Escobar, Morton, Gorkys and either JoJo or that Blane guy.  Which is considerably better than Pie, Marshall & Cedeno.



Morton/JoJo/Blane = Marshall

Since: Sep 29, 2007
Posted on: November 13, 2008 9:16 am

Braves, Padres near Peavy deal

Obviously a Braves fan.  Why would San Diego ever make that move?  It would be a tragically one sided trade.  Don't get me wrong, I love me some Braves, but get real...A slight upgrade at SS and a huge downgrade in starting pitching...Who wants to sign up?

Since: Sep 24, 2006
Posted on: November 13, 2008 9:01 am

Braves, Padres near Peavy deal

Yeah lets forget about the Jermaine Dye's and Jason Schmidt's of the world.  Braves prospects are no bodies.  Lets also forget that Andruw Jones, Chipper Jones, Rafael Furcal, Mark DeRosa, Adam Wainwright, and Adam Laroche, were all highly touted Braves prospects at one point.  Those guys seem to be having very good careers elsewhere, (with the exception of Chipper and Andruw of course).

Escobar is a good player who will continue to get better. He had a nagging shoulder injury because of a collision with a Mets RF. It didn't stop his agressiveness either and he wanted to play. You are getting a guy you can plug into the #2 hole in the batting order and hit you about  30-45 doubles a season in that ballpark. Gorkys Hernandez is a highly touted CF prospect that the Braves received last year in the Edgar Renteria trade. He played in the futures game this past season and many GMs have been asking what the Braves would take so they could get their hands on him. Charlie Morton is a solid pitcher and whoever you get as the 4th player is a crap shoot anyway.

Towers is in a bad situation because of what the ownership is demanding he do.  Trading Peavy was not going to be easy because of his no trade clause and his inclusion that he only be traded within the NL. The Braves are the only team who can offer enough talent to the Padres outside of the AL teams. 

As for Ryan Dempster, the Cubs were asking for him to take a deal that would basically be a "hometown discount."  When he found out the Cubs were willing to pay Peavy 15 million, he was pretty much peaved that they were asking him to take only 10-11 million.  He will definitely listen to other offers now, but I can see where the Cubs will bite the bullet and pay him what he wants to stay.  The Braves have 45 million to spend on upgrades. Peavy is a start and now they can focus on getting Dempster or another starter via FA.  The only big aquisition that they will need to make is a LF. More than likely that will be gotten thru trades.

Since: Dec 1, 2007
Posted on: November 13, 2008 8:53 am

Who will play shortstop?

This sounds great, but what are the Braves going to do about someone to play shortstop?  Bring in a veteran pitcher and regress with a rookie infielder?  Make a run at Furcal or Renteria again?  It has become obvious in past years that experimentation at the top of the lineup has not worked out well for the Braves.  I understand you have to give up some good players to get a good player, but this seems like a bit much.

Since: Aug 20, 2006
Posted on: November 13, 2008 8:22 am

Towers is a terrible GM!

Way to crash and burn the Padres super genius GM Kevin Towers. Let`s see a new ballpark, decent starting pitching & a chance to unload overpaid vets like Giles and Hoffman.  Instead you are willing to take over rated Braves prospects for your ace??  Take a quick look back on how trading for so called Braves prospects has turned out for other teams.  Not good at all.  At this rate just resign Hoffman so at least what`s left of your fans has someone they recognize.  

Since: Aug 29, 2006
Posted on: November 13, 2008 8:19 am

Braves, Padres near Peavy deal

It would definately be a steal on the part of the Braves if this is pulled off.

If I were Towers, I'd be asking for a superstar in return for Peavy, straight up. Although Escobar is adequete as far as a hitter, he's not a breakout guy and is a horrible fielder. Guys like Morton or Reyes look like 4th or 5th starters. And the single A guy is years away and may not even hit major league pitching.

The Cubs offer of Pie, Cedeno, and Marshall is a scrap list of nobodies.

Towers should be looking for one very solid addition, along with prospects for a guy whose ERA has only climbed above 2.88 once in the last 5 years. The Braves wouldn't have anyone who'd excite me in any deal. The Cubs would have to part with DeRosa, Marmel, and a high end minor leaguer. The Dodgers would have to give me Kemp and Martin. The Yankees would have to give me Hughes, Kennedy, and their high end catching prospect. The Mets would have to give me Pelfrey, Fernando Martinez, and Neise. The Red Sox would have to give me Ellsbury and Beckett.

Towers is looking for inexpensive replacements for the one true superstar on his team. He's shouldn't be throwing away the only true bargining chip he has on the team because once Peavy's gone, who else would anyone want on a team destined to lose 105 games next season?

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