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Braves still waiting on Peavy

Posted on: November 13, 2008 6:53 pm

Pitcher Jake Peavy's slow, torturous path out of San Diego remained on hold Thursday.

"I don't know if this is gamesmanship or what," Barry Axelrod, Peavy's agent, said Thursday afternoon. "At one point the Braves were hot and heavy, then they were not. And then they're hot again."

Not hot enough, however, for the Padres to agree with Atlanta on what sources with knowledge of the talks say is a four-player package that, as of Wednesday night, was likely to send shortstop Yunel Escobar, starting pitcher Charlie Morton, Class A outfielder Gorkys Hernandez and reliever Blaine Boyer to San Diego.

"I assume if and when they get to the point where they've tentatively agreed on something, they will bring us in," Axelrod said. "They have to. I haven't been updated on any progress."

The Braves had been pushing the Padres for an answer before the free agent market opens on Friday (until then, clubs can negotiate only with their own free agents).

Atlanta needs at least two starting pitchers, and the Braves, who appear to have been the most aggressive of anyone in their pursuit of Peavy, would like to go into the free agent market knowing whether they're looking at signing one starter (in the event they complete a Peavy trade) or two (in the event they don't).

"I'm not surprised it's been difficult," Axelrod said. "It's a very difficult trade to make. Notwithstanding the no-trade rights Jake has. the Padres laid out that it was going to have to be a big package.

"The other team has to assume a hefty contract -- it's a bargain this year, and hefty after that -- and give up what Kevin (Towers, Padres' general manager) deems to be enough. And if it's a starting pitcher, infielder, reliever ... that could deplete somebody's system.

"It's a tough deal to make."

Axelrod spoke by telephone with Peavy earlier Thursday when the pitcher changed planes en route home from Puerto Rico and told him there was nothing to update.

"Most of our conversations have been him asking, 'What's new? Is anything new up?' and me saying, 'No, haven't heard anything, have a good trip, see ya when you get back,'" Axelrod said.

So the Padres have neither accepted the Braves' offer nor asked that Peavy waive the no-trade clause, and the cat-and-mouse game continues.

Meantime, when a deal for Peavy is struck, it almost certainly will require more than a simple "yes" or "no" when it comes to waiving the no-trade clause. Even regarding the initial small list of potential clubs to whom Peavy has said he probably would accept a deal, the pitcher and Axelrod have compiled a checklist of sorts that they would require that includes things such as a housing allowance, guaranteeing his $22 million option for 2013 and travel for his wife and children.

Depending on the acquiring club, Peavy may require more or less from that list. It is believed that his preference is to play in Chicago with the Cubs. Wherever he lands, he is expected to demand a full no-trade clause.

"People keep asking me, 'What do you expect?'" Axelrod said. "I tell them I don't know. I've been doing this 30 years and I've never been through one of these before. I don't have any precedent.

"I had Phil Nevin and he was traded twice with no-trade clauses, and that had to be considered. But I've never had one quite like this."



Since: Feb 9, 2008
Posted on: November 14, 2008 6:38 pm

Braves still waiting on Peavy

I think it is hilarious that he wants to go to the cubs.  They could pick up Sabathia, too and still not win the world series.  The could be up in the NLCS 3-0 and still not win.  Cubs fans, one question.  Why do you even care anymore?

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: November 14, 2008 2:35 pm

Braves still waiting on Peavy

If the Braves give up any more for Peavy, then the whole trade is useless. The Braves are planning on 2  years to be really competitive in my opinion. By that time Hanson should be a major leaguer Hudson should be back, and the Braves should actually have an offense. Smoltz may have a year left, Reyes and Glavine along with Hampton will be history and [ hopefully ] a new era will begin. If the Padres want the whole enchilda, just let Peavy go, trade Escabor, and sign some free agent pitchers. Peavy is no one to build your whole franchise around, he has to face Pujols still, right? 

Since: Sep 18, 2006
Posted on: November 14, 2008 2:13 pm

Braves still waiting on Peavy

The Cubs deal would not be Cedeno, Pie and Marshall.  As a Cubs fan I would never tell a Padres fan that is enough for Peavy.  Josh Vittters will probably be part of any deal the Cubs propose, and a third team with more pitching talent would be party to the deal as well.

If the Padres got a good pitching prospect from a third team, Vitters, Pie/Cedeno and a throw-in like Marshall or Angel Guzman (great stuff), they should be happy.  Pie will be a stud when he given 400-500 ABs.  Cedeno is solid.  Vitters can be a high-quality 2B.  Guzman has a high ceiling.

The Braves offer sucks though.  Escobar is overrated...I followed him closely all last year as he was on my fantasy team - same potential as Cedeno.   And their combo of "prospects" is average at best.  Plus, I don't think the Braves can win as soon as the Cubs, the NL East is much more competitive and Atlanta doesn't have as much money so Peavy wants to come to Chicago.

In my opinion, that is what is holding up the deal.  Peavy wants to be a Cub.

Since: Sep 18, 2006
Posted on: November 14, 2008 2:02 pm

Braves still waiting on Peavy

Escobar and hernandez...for Peavy...plenty?  You are kidding, right?!?!

Since: Jan 5, 2007
Posted on: November 14, 2008 1:34 pm

Braves still waiting on Peavy

Chances are the Pad's are trying to strong arm the Braves into including Tommy Hanson. If so, this is a dead deal.

Since: Oct 16, 2007
Posted on: November 14, 2008 12:50 pm

Braves still waiting on Peavy is completely unreliable.  If you post a thousand rumors eventually you will get one right.

Since: Jan 23, 2007
Posted on: November 14, 2008 12:24 pm

Braves still waiting on Peavy

If anyone has ever learned anything from reported names in a potential trade, it should be that the names reported are often times inaccurate.

I highly doubt the Padres would continue talks with the Cubs if the offer was simply Pie, Cedeno and Marshall.

I'd put a lot of money on the idea that Josh Vitters is a name being mentioned in this trade - a pure-hitting third baseman who was taken 3rd in the 2007 draft and who is considered a can't-miss prospect (a 5-star prospect according to Baseball Prospectus). I'd also be shocked if the Padres and Cubs weren't discussing Donald Veal, a hard-throwing pitcher who should be a year away from the big leagues.

I'm guessing the Cubs package is closer to: Pie, Marshall, Vitters and Veal ---

with the potential that the Cubs might be dangling Ryan Theriot if the Pads include Khalil Greene.

Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: November 14, 2008 12:07 pm

Braves still waiting on Peavy

Thats the best post I have ever seen!!

Most of that 15.00 is courtesy of Albert!!


Since: Jul 27, 2007
Posted on: November 14, 2008 9:42 am

Braves still waiting on Peavy

sooneriesque is right on.  I'm a Padre fan and I'd gladly ship Peavy to the Braves if we get Escobar, Morton, Hernandez and Boyer.  If Boyer can throw strikes, watching him and Heath Bell in the 8th and 9th wouldn't be too shabby. 

On the other hand, if the Padres land Felix Pie, Ronny Cedeno and Sean Marshall from the Cubs instead, I'll puke.  I'd rather see Jody Gerut play over Felix Pie and Matt Antonelli and/or Edgar Gonzalez play over Ronny Cedeno.  I can't believe that the Padres would even consider the rumored trade from the way.  Take the Braves' trade, please.

Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: November 14, 2008 7:13 am

Peavy a Yankee, say it ain't so!!

Word is down here in Mobile, AL that Jake is a Yankee!!  The local sports channels reported last night its a done deal!

Jake is from Mobile, AL (really Semmes, AL, a suburb)

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