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Braves pull out of Peavy talks

Posted on: November 14, 2008 5:31 pm
Edited on: November 14, 2008 6:56 pm

The Atlanta Braves have pulled out of the Jake Peavy trade talks and will move ahead with other plans general manager Frank Wren told on Friday.

"We notified the Padres yesterday that based on our last offer not being accepted, we were out of it," Wren said.

The Braves were set to send shortstop Yunel Escobar, pitcher Charlie Morton, reliever Blaine Boyer and Class A outfielder Gorkys Hernandez to the Padres for Peavy, who would have had to waive his no-trade clause.

The Braves felt they were moving toward a deal, according to sources, and on Wednesday believed they were going to obtain the pitcher they had been attempting to acquire since October.

But then something changed, and in Wren's conversations with the Padres it became apparent that a deal was not as close the Braves were thinking. The Atlanta GM declined comment on what explanation the Padres gave him for not accepting the deal.

"It just didn't work," Wren said.

The Braves became perplexed over the past six weeks by the Padres' handling of the negotiations, sources with knowledge of the talks say, and still don't know for sure why San Diego sent such conflicting signals to them this week.

The Braves believe that they were assuming significant risk in the deal not only because of the package of players they were willing to deal, but also because of Peavy's history of injuries.

"We were never that comfortable with the players we were talking about because we're a club that likes to build from within," Wren said. "And as the deal evolved, it was going to impact too many of those players."

Despite periodic trepidation as negotiatons were moving forward, though, the Braves ultimately were willing to part with some prospects they viewed as key -- except for prospect Tommy Hanson.

Even at that, they still feel that their offer for Peavy surpassed any others the Padres have received.

So now the Braves will take their search for two starting pitchers elsewhere. Wren said that they have a couple of trade possibilities working, plus they will dive into the free agent market.

Aside from CC Sabathia, who they view as too expensive, the Braves figure to be involved in anybody and everybody on the free agent market. They've already believed to have touched base with A.J. Burnett, and figure to do the same with Derek Lowe and Ryan Dempster, among others.

"Jake is a player who would have fit into our club very well," Wren said. "But it was a very rich deal, and at the end of the day we just didn't feel like it made sense for our organization to keep talking."

Of course, the offseason is filled with posturing as clubs seek to make deals -- both in the trade and free-agent markets -- and everybody has an agenda and wants their angle out there.

Could this be a case of the Braves doing the same? If the Padres were to call back before Atlanta finishes its pitching plans for the winter, could something still get done?

"We're trying to improve our club," Wren said. "I'm never going to close the door to anything. We have no active discussions going on. We're actively pursuing other things.

"Would I take a call? Yes. But that's not our focus."

The Chicago Cubs, also searching for pitching, are believed to still be interested. However, Towers told the San Diego Union-Tribune on Friday that the club may turn to the Los Angeles Angels and New York Yankees.


Since: Sep 8, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2008 10:07 pm

Braves pull out of Peavy talks

hey thats good that they pulled out and all but seriously, does anyone else doubt that the braves will be able to match up with the money that other teams are able to throw out in the free agent market? i just don't see us landing aj burnett because he is going to be asking for big money.

Since: Oct 26, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2008 8:23 pm

Braves pull out of Peavy talks

The Braves would not be held hostage by the Padres. This is the right move even though Peavy would have been a welcome addition. The Braves have lots of talent at the minor league level and it may take a few years, but they will rise again.

Since: May 22, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2008 7:21 pm

Braves pull out of Peavy talks

"they blew almost their entire worthwhile farm system getting harden.....".  Dude, do you know what they gave up or are you blowing smoke out of your arse?  Matt Murton?  Eric Patterson?  Sean Gallagher?  Those guys weren't prospects anymore - they were and are fringe major leaguers.  They were once prospects but all had been in the majors for over a year and have not distinguished themselves to date and there is major doubt any of them every will.

The Cubs top prospects are Josh Vitters, Ty Colvin, Jeff Samarjia, & Felix Pie.  Plus they have some pieces on the major league roster that are valued by other clubs - guys like Sean Marshall, Mark DeRosa, Ryan Theriot, Ronny Cedeno and Mike Fontenot.  The Cubs are willing to deal any of these guys in the right deal.

The Padres don't want any money back and are looking strickly for prospects - especially pitching.  The Cubs are actively seeking a 3rd team which would be willing to send a high end pitching prospect or two in return for Marshall & a package of the other players listed.


Since: Oct 11, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2008 7:15 pm

Braves pull out of Peavy talks

Braves pull out of Peavy talks


Cubs, please do whatevr you have to do to get this guy!  He is only 27, and a career 3.25 era.  This guy is a top 5 pitcher, and resign Dempster!  Imagine:

1. Carlos Zambrano (14-6, 3.91 ERA, 130 K) Career 3.48 ERA (27 Years Old)

2. Jake Peavy (10-11, 2.85 ERA, 166 K), Career 3.25 ERA (27 Years Old)

3. Rich Harden (10-2, 2.07 ERA, 181 K), Career 3.23 ERA (26 Years Old)

4. Ted Lilly (17-9, 4.09 ERA, 184 K), Career 4.40 ERA (32 Years Old)

5. Ryan Dempster (17-6, 2.96 ERA, 187 K), Career 4.55 ERA (31 Years Old)

What a Starting Rotation!

Yeah, until the playoffs start.  Peavy is an awful big game pitcher.  Add that the worst playoff team this century and you get more heartache..why would you want that?

Since: Dec 7, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2008 6:54 pm

Braves pull out of Peavy talks

This thread is full of some of the most uneducated homers I have seen in a while.  "The Cubs suck - even with Peavy they will get swept - Zambrano sucks - Peavy will be cursed and injured, blah, blah, blah."  Can we get some adults that understand the game just a little here.   I would say that leading the NL last year and making the playoffs for 2 straight years is pretty good in baseball.  Even if they lose Dempster, the Cubs will still compete with Zambrano, Lily, Harden, and two others.   As a Cub and Brewer fan, I would welcome Peavy and his possible injuries to either team.  As a note, about 90% of pitchers have had an arm injury.

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2008 5:54 pm

Braves pull out of Peavy talks

he's not a free agent

Since: Dec 2, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2008 3:30 pm

Braves pull out of Peavy talks

I agree.  When a major league team says "the door is shut", it just means it is slightly more closed than before.

Since: Jul 7, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2008 2:55 pm

Braves pull out of Peavy talks

Typical dumb Cubs fan overrating their players.  Why on earth would you think Zambrano is better than Peavy?  You yourself say he's a top 5 pitcher.  Zambrano isn't even a top 10 pitcher.  If it was up to cub fans Kerry Wood would be going to the HOF. 

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2008 2:54 pm

Braves pull out of Peavy talks

The Yankees will get him. They have the best team any money can buy.

Since: Nov 15, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2008 2:24 pm

Braves pull out of Peavy talks

yeah that would be tough! So imagine the ways the would have to screw that up and lose in the first round again.

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