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Braves pull out of Peavy talks

Posted on: November 14, 2008 5:31 pm
Edited on: November 14, 2008 6:56 pm

The Atlanta Braves have pulled out of the Jake Peavy trade talks and will move ahead with other plans general manager Frank Wren told on Friday.

"We notified the Padres yesterday that based on our last offer not being accepted, we were out of it," Wren said.

The Braves were set to send shortstop Yunel Escobar, pitcher Charlie Morton, reliever Blaine Boyer and Class A outfielder Gorkys Hernandez to the Padres for Peavy, who would have had to waive his no-trade clause.

The Braves felt they were moving toward a deal, according to sources, and on Wednesday believed they were going to obtain the pitcher they had been attempting to acquire since October.

But then something changed, and in Wren's conversations with the Padres it became apparent that a deal was not as close the Braves were thinking. The Atlanta GM declined comment on what explanation the Padres gave him for not accepting the deal.

"It just didn't work," Wren said.

The Braves became perplexed over the past six weeks by the Padres' handling of the negotiations, sources with knowledge of the talks say, and still don't know for sure why San Diego sent such conflicting signals to them this week.

The Braves believe that they were assuming significant risk in the deal not only because of the package of players they were willing to deal, but also because of Peavy's history of injuries.

"We were never that comfortable with the players we were talking about because we're a club that likes to build from within," Wren said. "And as the deal evolved, it was going to impact too many of those players."

Despite periodic trepidation as negotiatons were moving forward, though, the Braves ultimately were willing to part with some prospects they viewed as key -- except for prospect Tommy Hanson.

Even at that, they still feel that their offer for Peavy surpassed any others the Padres have received.

So now the Braves will take their search for two starting pitchers elsewhere. Wren said that they have a couple of trade possibilities working, plus they will dive into the free agent market.

Aside from CC Sabathia, who they view as too expensive, the Braves figure to be involved in anybody and everybody on the free agent market. They've already believed to have touched base with A.J. Burnett, and figure to do the same with Derek Lowe and Ryan Dempster, among others.

"Jake is a player who would have fit into our club very well," Wren said. "But it was a very rich deal, and at the end of the day we just didn't feel like it made sense for our organization to keep talking."

Of course, the offseason is filled with posturing as clubs seek to make deals -- both in the trade and free-agent markets -- and everybody has an agenda and wants their angle out there.

Could this be a case of the Braves doing the same? If the Padres were to call back before Atlanta finishes its pitching plans for the winter, could something still get done?

"We're trying to improve our club," Wren said. "I'm never going to close the door to anything. We have no active discussions going on. We're actively pursuing other things.

"Would I take a call? Yes. But that's not our focus."

The Chicago Cubs, also searching for pitching, are believed to still be interested. However, Towers told the San Diego Union-Tribune on Friday that the club may turn to the Los Angeles Angels and New York Yankees.


Since: Oct 7, 2006
Posted on: November 14, 2008 9:29 pm

Braves pull out of Peavy talks

The Padres were either dragging their feet too long, or just wanted too much in return. Keep the ATL side of the deal in mind, and then when Peavy finally does go somewhere, match it up with what he went for. my guess it will be nowhere even close to as good. The Padres are horrible at just about every position, I fail to see why they're being so picky.

Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: November 14, 2008 9:26 pm

Braves pull out of Peavy talks

I love how the Cubs (or at least their fans) dangle the same scrub "prospects" in every potential deal.  How long has Hendry been trying to deal Pie, Cedeno and Marshall?  No one's biting.  Everyone's seen these guys perform at the big league level and they're not that good.

Since: Dec 12, 2007
Posted on: November 14, 2008 9:21 pm

Braves pull out of Peavy talks

If the Cubs do get Peavy they will certainly not get Dempster. I think if they Cubs get Peavy the braves will go after Dempster and Burnett. Also, the braves should try and work a Kelly Johnson for Ryan Ludwick deal. Martin Prado is capable of playing 2nd Base full time now and he is a very good player. The braves still have a lot of tricks up their sleeve. Honestly, i think this was the best possible thing that could happen to the braves. They keep Escobar and Boyer, Hanson has been lights out in the AFL and will come up to the Majors this year. Re-Sign Smoltz and i feel they braves will be contenders again.

1. Burnett
2. Smoltz
3. Dempster/Lowe
4. Jurrjens
5. Hanson
Rotation after Hudson comes back
1. Hudson
2. Burnett
3. Dempster/Lowe
4. Jurrjens
5. Hanson
Smoltz will go to te bullpen

1. Josh Anderson - CF
2. Escobar - SS
3. Chipper - 3B
4. Ludwick - LF
5. McCann - C
6. Francoeur - RF
7. Kotchman - 1B
8. Prado - 2B
9. Pitcher

Since: Jan 26, 2008
Posted on: November 14, 2008 9:12 pm

Braves pull out of Peavy talks

Thank goodness.. come on now.. Atlanta Braves has plenty of talent to rebuilt through their minor league system. GET IT RIGHT by not letting folks go that are brought up through the Braves system and the wins will COME.

Since: Nov 14, 2008
Posted on: November 14, 2008 9:11 pm

Braves pull out of Peavy talks

Typical White Sox fan.  Cares more about the Cubs losing than he does with the White Sox winning.

Since: Nov 14, 2008
Posted on: November 14, 2008 9:06 pm

Braves pull out of Peavy talks

Do you really think they blew there entire farm system on Harden?  I am guessing that you really thought highly on Eric Patterson and Matt Murton.  Two guys who have been on the Cubs and have done nothing.  Also, Sean Gallagher has also done nothing on the Cubs.  I think this was an excellent trade for the Cubs as they gave up nobody worth while on our team.

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: November 14, 2008 8:28 pm

Braves pull out of Peavy talks

Escobar is not that great of a player, read the scouting report.  His speed has already topped out and he isn't projected to have above average power (or really even average power).  He can hit for average and play good defense which makes him a solid regular, but that isn't the type of player to be the centerpiece when you are dealing away a cy young winner. 

They want a cornerstone prospect, and I don't think they can get one.

Since: Aug 2, 2007
Posted on: November 14, 2008 8:21 pm

Braves pull out of Peavy talks

I think when everything is said and done he will end up in pinstripes in the Bronx!

Yanks can offer Hughes Melkey and they have a boat load of class A talent

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: November 14, 2008 8:20 pm

Braves pull out of Peavy talks


Zambrano pitched a no-hitter in September this year, admittedly under special circumstances.  I think you meant October anyway, and he pitched well last year (remember, Lou took him out early to "save him for game 5"...oye).  He wasn't too bad this October either, his defense REALLY let him down.  I'd still take that "headcase" over anything they have here in St. Louis right now.  I think Harden will be fine too if they space his starts out more often...

You are right, though-  aweful contracts to Soriano, Fukudome, and Marquis (he's not a bad 5th starter, but Marshall or Gaudin could do the same job much cheaper) will weigh this team down for a while, and probably keep them from getting the type of left handed RF that they want to sign this season, while your Cards might have been a closer away from at least making the playoffs this year (I hope to God that Kerry Wood doesn't end up filling that role) and the Brewers and Astros will probably still be in the mix.  It all makes this comming season feel like a now or never year, since thier medium-term prospects don't look great, which is why I think there is so much urgency with the Peavy talks...

Dempster and Peavy are mutually exclusive options...aside form the money issues, you only need four starters in the playoffs.  I know it's presumptuous to assume that the Cubbies will make it back to the playoffs next year, but they need to build the team for the playoffs, not the regular season. 

Since: Jan 24, 2008
Posted on: November 14, 2008 8:14 pm

Braves pull out of Peavy talks

Good post UGA - the Braves have been bit once and the sting has lasted for quite a while. We'll do fine in the free agent market! Wren definitely has his head in the game.

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