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Greene to Cards; Peavy talks on deck

Posted on: December 4, 2008 10:01 pm

The San Diego Padres continued shrinking their payroll by finalizing a deal Thursday that sent shortstop Khalil Greene to St. Louis in exchange for pitcher Mark Worrell and a player to be named later.

Now, they'll turn their attention back to dealing away ace Jake Peavy: Padres general manager Kevin Towers said he expects to speak with his Chicago Cubs counterpart, Jim Hendry, about Peavy at the winter meetings in Las Vegas next week.

"Things usually always heat up when you can talk face-to-face," Towers said Thursday evening. "I've had ongoing dialog with Jim Hendry, and we plan on getting together in Las Vegas and furthering our conversations.

"We've identified a couple of clubs that could work as third teams (to help facilitate a Peavy deal between the Padres and Cubs).

"After they re-signed (Ryan) Dempster it probably became more difficult, but Jim has assured me he'll do everything he can to make it happen. Maybe it's more complicated now (with Dempster having re-signed)."

The Padres shed $6.5 million, Greene's 2009 salary, by moving him to St. Louis. San Diego had been talking with Baltimore about Greene as well, but the Orioles, according to sources with knowledge of the talks, balked at picking up Greene's entire tab. The Orioles wanted to send pitcher Hayden Penn to the Padres and pay only a portion of Greene's salary.

When the Cardinals swooped in Wednesday and offered to complete a deal in which they would absorb all of the $6.5 million owed Greene for '09, the deal was completed in less than 24 hours.

"We're certainly losing a guy who has been a valuable shortstop to us over the last four years," Towers said. "He's struggled with injuries, other than two years ago, but he was a major contributor to two division-championship clubs."

The Padres attempted to sign Greene to a multi-year deal roughly a year ago and buy out his free agency -- he's eligible to hit the open market following the '09 season -- but could not get a deal done.

In addition to the reliever Worrell, 25, who was 3-3 with a 2.15 ERA and 80 strikeouts in 58 2/3 innings for Triple-A Memphis last season, the Padres will pick their player to be named later from an agreed upon list of three prospects -- one position player and two pitchers -- and receive him sometime between now and April 1.

Whether Peavy is still around by then remains doubtful. While Towers said that subtracting Greene's salary means that the ace pitcher could still fit into the opening day payroll, that clearly is not Plan A.

Indications are that, if he is to be traded, Peavy is doing what he can to steer that ship toward Chicago.

"It's the one place I don't think they're looking for a lot of concessions on a deal," Towers said of Peavy and his agent, Barry Axelrod. "If it was to the East Coast, they may look for his option to be picked up or the deal to be re-done.

"Chicago's a good ballclub, a good market, and they're in a good division. That seems to be attractive to Jake. Hendry is a good guy to deal with.

"I'm holding out hope we can get something done."


Since: Jun 23, 2008
Posted on: December 13, 2008 2:57 pm

Greene to Cards; Peavy talks on deck

WHAT!1 LOL!!  Forget about The Wiz....come on. We will never forget about the Wiz  your comment is a joke when it comes to that!!  I agree on His defensive effort but not about FORGETING ABOUT THE WIZ!1

Since: Jun 9, 2007
Posted on: December 6, 2008 9:47 pm

Greene to Cards; Peavy talks on deck

Even though Greene tanked last year at the plate and kept going after bad pitches and never adjusted, he will benefit from not being on the Padres, being in a decent lineup, if you can get his 'head straight', this could end of being a big steal for the Cards. Defensively, he's solid and he has shown that he CAN hit.

Since: Dec 2, 2008
Posted on: December 6, 2008 10:48 am

Greene to Cards; Peavy talks on deck

can't go wrong by acquiing a major league SS for a minor leaguer and paying the freight of 6.5 ml which is better than market for Khallil stature


This is another of those "minor moves" that helps a team compete.  If greene can come back to his numbers of a few years ago, this was a steal for the one year. Will be interesting to see if Cards try to re-sign him before 2009 is out

Since: Nov 3, 2008
Posted on: December 5, 2008 11:22 pm

Greene to Cards; Peavy talks on deck

peavy to the cubs would be an excellent pick.  our staff would be the best it's been in years.  what a golden pick-up it would be.

Since: Jul 24, 2008
Posted on: December 5, 2008 8:30 pm

Greene to Cards; Peavy talks on deck

Kalil Greene was a great pickup by the Cardinals over Ceasar Itizurs. Now the Padres have to deal Jake Peavy. But the only possible way they deal him is if they get a shit load of prospects. The Padres are seekinga deal similar to CC Sabathia's deal to Miluakee. But over all great pickup by the Cards. 

Since: Nov 21, 2006
Posted on: December 5, 2008 5:58 pm

Greene to Cards; Peavy talks on deck

Sometimes you guys kill me with your comments!! Some of you an idea but are missing peices, but you are there.

Peavy to Phillies...aaaah no! Won't happen, don't even think about it.

Peavy to Atlanta... the best fit but if it was going to happen, it would have happened already.

Here is the senerio...Peavy wants to go to the Cubs. That deal will get done during the winter meetings. What is stoping that deal is certain players. Some of the hold up is Vitters needs to be in the deal but not for the Padres. Vitters would end up in Baltimore. Hayden Penn would go to San DIago along with either Rich Hill and/or Sean Marshall of the Cubs. Felix Pie would go to Baltimore Baltimore. Ronnie Cedeno will also go to the Padres. Here is what it looks like so far.

Padres get;

Hayden Penn, Rich Hill or Sean Marshall & Ronnie Cedeno and 1 more player (4 Total)

Baltmore gets:

Vitters, Marshall or Hill and Felix Pie (3 Players total)

Cubs Get:

Jake Peavy from San Diago & Brian Roberts from Baltimore

The hold up is who get Hill & who gets Marshall, Who is the other player, the Cubs do not want to give up Vitters & the Cubs absorb alot of payroll so they need to clear some first.

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: December 5, 2008 2:41 pm

Greene to Cards; Peavy talks on deck

Actually, most of the best pitchers in the league are American Leaguers.  PetCo is a very pitcher friendly park, however, as are a number of NL parks, so I think the pitching evens out.  Hitter's numbers generally don't change much as they switch between leagues.  That being said, I still like Greene in Baltimore, for the the right price.  The problem is that it would be a one year rental.  Penn still has some upside, so I think it would have been overpaying to send him over and pick up Greene's entire contract.  I would rather see make a play for Furcal or settle for Izturis. 

Since: Feb 14, 2007
Posted on: December 5, 2008 1:45 pm

Greene to Cards; Peavy talks on deck

As a die hard Cubs fan, I would love to add Peavy to an already strong rotation.  Pitching definitely wins championships.  This said, I would only add Peavy if it didn't interfer with the Cubs adding a much need left handed bat.  The Cubs have needs, I see Peavy pitching in Chicago as a luxury.  One big obstacle I see in trading for Peavy would be the impending sale of the Cubs.  They already have a substantially back loaded payroll that a new owner might not want to add to.  Either way the Cubs should again be favored to win a fairly weak National League Central.

Since: Dec 14, 2007
Posted on: December 5, 2008 1:22 pm

Greene to Cards; Peavy talks on deck

MattieMutch-you are right on. I too believe the Peavy deal will go through and Furcal will end up a Brave. I think as much as Furcal respects Bobby and calls him a father figure he will take a big discount to become a Brave. That is why he hasn't accepted the pretty big offer he has from the A's. He is waiting to see if the Braves are in before taking anything else. About Ludwick-it wll happen if the Cards add a prospect. That may seem too much but the Braves like me and everyone else has to wonder if last years stats were an aberration.

I think Towers is using every trick he can to try and get more from the Braves. That will not happen and Wren will stick to his initial offer. The Pads already missed Flowers(which I am pretty upset they gave him up in the Vasquez deal) and know the Braves are moving on w/ or w/o the Peavy deal.

The Braves are pushing Burnett for an answer before CC signs and if he pulls the trigger the Pads have missed out. I think we will have a pitcher before end of the day next Tuesday. I hope its Peavy but if we get Burnette instead I won't be that upset. We'll get a pretty good SP and won't give up some GREAT talent.

As for Francoeur, I sure hope we don't trad him. Unless we get someone like Greinke. I think lst year was just an off year and he will return to his great productivity.



Since: Oct 7, 2008
Posted on: December 5, 2008 12:36 pm

Greene to Cards; Peavy talks on deck

I don't understand why the Peavy deal is centered around Vitters from the Cubs. The one thing the Pads don't need is another third baseman. They have Kouzmanhoff who looks like he will be solid, and Headley who is in the outfield so we can have him in the majors. They only way this makes sense is if they are going to move one of these guys.

As for Khalil he had a pretty good run with the Pads, but I won't miss the two month long slumps he was prone to. He does do a great interview though!

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