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Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

Posted on: December 8, 2008 8:23 pm
Edited on: December 8, 2008 8:47 pm

LAS VEGAS -- The continued effort between San Diego and the Cubs to figure out a way to send ace Jake Peavy to Chicago has resulted in their engaging the Philadelphia Phillies as a potential third team to help facilitate a deal, has learned.

The potential trade remains complicated, and multiple sources cautioned that it might not get done with the Phillies. But those sources agreed Monday that the Padres and Cubs continue attempting to figure out a way to get it done, and the Padres' preference, as stated by general manager Kevin Towers earlier Monday, is to deal sooner rather than later.

Current talks center around the Cubs sending third-base prospect Josh Vitters, right-handed pitcher Kevin Hart and possibly veteran Jason Marquis, to the Padres in exchange for Peavy.

Any Phillies' involvement could wind up sending left-hander J.A. Happ, 26, the Phillies' third-round pick in the 2004 draft, to San Diego. The Padres and Phillies also have discussed catcher Chris Coste, according to sources.

The Padres currently are thin behind the plate and, as of now, would open the season with Nick Hundley catching.

The Padres are not exactly enamored at the prospect of obtaining Marquis but, then again, it appears, neither is anybody else. Sources say one of the hurdles the Padres and Cubs are attempting to clear is that in order to add Peavy's contract -- he's due $63 million over the next four years -- Chicago would have to clear some salary.

Marquis is due $9.875 million in 2009, the final year of his contract. Chicago is shopping Marquis and hopes to trade him, sources said, to clear room for Peavy. If the Cubs cannot, the Padres likely would take him and pay between $4 and $5 million of his salary, with the Cubs taking care of the rest.

What the Cubs would like to do is find a club that would relieve them of all of Marquis' salary, but right now that appears to be the impossible dream.

Other names that have been discussed between the Cubs and Padres include infielder Ronny Cedeno and pitcher Angel Guzman. The Cubs are leaning against dealing left-hander Sean Marshall, sources said.

It is not clear who would be going back to the Phillies -- and one source cautioned late Monday afternoon that Philadelphia's involvement in the talks well could be fleeting -- but they are known to have interest in Cubs infielder Mark De Rosa. The Phillies also are hoping to add an established veteran starting pitcher as protection in case negotiations with Jamie Moyer break down beyond repair.

The Padres and Cubs also have engaged Baltimore in the talks. In that scenario, sources say, the Cubs would send outfielder Felix Pie to the Orioles for pitcher Garrett Olson, then send Olson, VItters and a package of others that could include Hart and Cedeno to the Padres.


Since: Oct 10, 2008
Posted on: December 10, 2008 10:32 am

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

I Agree, I wouldnt mind DeRosa in a Phillies uniform at all, im a phillies fan, and have been, even when they were god awful. And DeRosa can do a good job, especially with utley out, who knows whats going on with Burrell, DeRosa can play anywhere, with the injuries we suffer we could use a guy like that. And another thing. There arent to many pitchers who are going to be too excited to come play in Philadelphia. And there is definintly no chance peavy comes to Philadelphia. But if we got a chance to get in on the trade, walk away with a better team? What the hell right? Mine as well get in on it. Basically we have to rely on our hitters, hitters are going to love to play here because they got a chance at getting better homerun numbers (ie. Ryan Howard) and pitchers....welllll not so much. So lets rev up the offense, be greatful of guys like Cole Hamels, Ryan Madson, Brad Lidge, Brett Myers, and so on, keep them here, let them do their job and keep them happy, because losing a guy like Cole Hamels, that would be a serious hurt. There arent to many great left handed pitchers sitting at home saying "Man id really love to go to philadelphia" So lets cross our fingers, try to make some steals out of this Cubs and Padres talk and see what happens.

Since: Dec 10, 2008
Posted on: December 10, 2008 4:00 am

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

ok if Mike Buttlick trades J.A.Happ for any player he should be shot, this kid will be good if they give him a spot anywhere in the bullpen or as a starter. Just look at what Gavin Floyd has done for the white sox last year.

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2008 9:24 pm

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

lol wow kid your an must not watch baseball at all..peavy is a top 5 pitcher, who was umm...wait..the Cy Young winner just in '07? lol....but no..hes not good at all..and nobody, including you, knows who he post man..?

Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 5:24 pm

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

Send Peavy to the Astros. He and Oswalt would make a great 1-2 punch. They just need a better bullpen and more hitting. Any chance they can trade Carlos Lee? Signing him was dumber than getting Miguel Tejada or maybe not!

I would be very surprised if the Cubs dealt Sean Marshall away. I really thought he would have gone to Oakland in the Rich Harden deal. But based on what I have read the Cubs really like Marshall and see him as a major part of the Cubs for years to come. Trading him for Peavy might make sense if only the Cubs didn't have to pay a large part of Peavy's salary. I have seen how teams either pay a large portion of a player's salary or give up a ton of young prospects. If I had the cash I'd buy the Cubs and redo Wrigley Field. That ivory fence gives me nightmares. How about installing a plexiglass instead so the fans can see the game for free?

Since: Oct 2, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2008 4:51 pm

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

Jake Peavy won the Cy Young last year and should have won it the year before.  He has arguably the best "stuff" in baseball and is just a plain stud.  Any team getting him would be very fortunate. 

Since: Dec 9, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 4:45 pm

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

I like the way you laid that out, minimatt0529

Philly seems like a decent matchup, but I still kinda like the Baltimore angle myself.  We could expand a deal to include us sending Theriot and Marquis over there in exchange for Brian Roberts.  DeRosa can play some short for us; maybe Fontenot can also.  We get a litle faster and a little more left handed.  We'd probably have to send some cash along with Marquis.  Maybe a suitcase of it that he can carry on the plane with him.

I thought I heard a rumor at the end of the season that Fukudome's second half was so hard on him that he was thinking about going back to Japan.  Did anyone else hear this?

Since: Jan 20, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 3:24 pm

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

If they give up DeRosa it will be an upsetting offseason for me personally as a cubs fan. De Rosa always is one of those players who has the best stats they no one sees. So why give him up? De Rosa is in my eyes alot more valuable than most players. Send the Phillies Cedeno or Pie or send them together just dont send De rosa for christ sake

Since: Sep 28, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 3:05 pm

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

dont worry douche may be 2032 before we win it again, but it will still be another 100 yrs before your cubs even see the world series and another 100 yrs til you win it again....keep on suffering ya douche

Since: Sep 28, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 2:57 pm

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

if you were an intelligent fan, you would realize the derosa crap is actually very helpful...right now we have no one to take either feliz or utleys spot for the beginning of the year. we only have bruntlett and im pretty sure he cant take both spots up in the field. So adding derosa to the bench would be very helpful u moron.

Since: Oct 13, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 2:25 pm

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

true...but you need to figure that Myers CAN be good, depending on which Myers shows up.  If we have Hamels, Peavy, and Myers with the good Myers there, thats impressive. (again, this is all dependent on Myers, which is a huge if)

Im sick of them not spending money though.  We jsut won the World Series.  We have the 5th biggest market.  But we are number 13 on the salary spending.  They need to step it up.

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