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Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

Posted on: December 8, 2008 8:23 pm
Edited on: December 8, 2008 8:47 pm
 

LAS VEGAS -- The continued effort between San Diego and the Cubs to figure out a way to send ace Jake Peavy to Chicago has resulted in their engaging the Philadelphia Phillies as a potential third team to help facilitate a deal, CBSSports.com has learned.

The potential trade remains complicated, and multiple sources cautioned that it might not get done with the Phillies. But those sources agreed Monday that the Padres and Cubs continue attempting to figure out a way to get it done, and the Padres' preference, as stated by general manager Kevin Towers earlier Monday, is to deal sooner rather than later.

Current talks center around the Cubs sending third-base prospect Josh Vitters, right-handed pitcher Kevin Hart and possibly veteran Jason Marquis, to the Padres in exchange for Peavy.

Any Phillies' involvement could wind up sending left-hander J.A. Happ, 26, the Phillies' third-round pick in the 2004 draft, to San Diego. The Padres and Phillies also have discussed catcher Chris Coste, according to sources.

The Padres currently are thin behind the plate and, as of now, would open the season with Nick Hundley catching.

The Padres are not exactly enamored at the prospect of obtaining Marquis but, then again, it appears, neither is anybody else. Sources say one of the hurdles the Padres and Cubs are attempting to clear is that in order to add Peavy's contract -- he's due $63 million over the next four years -- Chicago would have to clear some salary.

Marquis is due $9.875 million in 2009, the final year of his contract. Chicago is shopping Marquis and hopes to trade him, sources said, to clear room for Peavy. If the Cubs cannot, the Padres likely would take him and pay between $4 and $5 million of his salary, with the Cubs taking care of the rest.

What the Cubs would like to do is find a club that would relieve them of all of Marquis' salary, but right now that appears to be the impossible dream.

Other names that have been discussed between the Cubs and Padres include infielder Ronny Cedeno and pitcher Angel Guzman. The Cubs are leaning against dealing left-hander Sean Marshall, sources said.

It is not clear who would be going back to the Phillies -- and one source cautioned late Monday afternoon that Philadelphia's involvement in the talks well could be fleeting -- but they are known to have interest in Cubs infielder Mark De Rosa. The Phillies also are hoping to add an established veteran starting pitcher as protection in case negotiations with Jamie Moyer break down beyond repair.

The Padres and Cubs also have engaged Baltimore in the talks. In that scenario, sources say, the Cubs would send outfielder Felix Pie to the Orioles for pitcher Garrett Olson, then send Olson, VItters and a package of others that could include Hart and Cedeno to the Padres.

Comments

Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2008 11:32 am
 

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

If I read this correctly we are giving up Happ and Carrasco for DeRosa, Cubs get Peavy. NO WAY.  If I'm trading two of the top 50 minor league prospects, I'm trading them to the A's for Matt Holliday, who would jump on that offer in a second. SCREW the Cubs.




Since: Nov 23, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2008 11:10 am
 

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

You sir are an idiot.  DeRosa can play second base for the first month of the season until Utley comes back.  He can also play 3rd if Pedro Feliz isn't fully recovered from surgery.  He played 50 games in the outfield last year, so he can fill in for that gaping hole where Burrell used to play.  Peavy is top 5 pitchers in baseball I would drive Carrasco and Happ to San Diego if they could make this deal.



Since: Feb 8, 2007
Posted on: December 9, 2008 11:06 am
 

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

Wait. What's this Peavy to Philly stuff? Maybe I didn't follow this article fully, but I fail to see where Philly would be where he ends up. It looks to me that the Phillies could be involved in the deal, but Peavy would still be going to Chicago. Philly wants De Rosa out of it, not Jake.




Since: Dec 9, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 10:44 am
 

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

Amen and well said... by the way, when Peavy's healthy- he can pitch in a shoe box. His health is the concern tho.



Since: Dec 9, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 10:38 am
 

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

If you don't think Jake Peavy and Rich Harden are household names then you know nothing about baseball.  You don't know these people because you are simply a casual fan.  Maybe you shouldn't be on a baseball rumor mill blog if you don't know enough about the sport to carry a tune!



Since: Dec 9, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 10:32 am
 

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

I don't see why the Phils would help facilitate a Peavy to the Cubs trade without significantly improving themselves. The Cubs are already the favorites to win the NL pennant without Peavy. Would the Phillies really trade Happ for DeRosa? Happ has plenty of upside and he is dirt cheap. the Padres have nothing to offer the Phils that they can afford to lose. DeRosa is a nice player who is mostly a defensive liability but he is owed $5.5 mil and is a free agent at year's end... Pitching is too hot a commodity to be traded like this.



Since: Dec 7, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 10:23 am
 

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

I agree, if the Phils land Peavy it's lights out and back to back World Series in the city of brotherly love.



Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2008 10:14 am
 

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

Wrigley is far worse park to pitch than Citizens Bank. Look at the stats, while both parks are in the top 5 in HR's ( Lake effect winds and river winds on certain days) Wrigley is in the top 5 in hits and runs produced, while Citizens Bank ranks around 14th-18th each year in those stats. ESPN has once again influenced the minds of the regular sportsfans. Wrigley, Fenway "cozy" ballparks. Citizen Bank a "bandbox" Check out the stats of great pitchers at "the Bank" you'll be suprised at how well the pitch there because the homers they give up are almost all solos.



Since: Apr 24, 2007
Posted on: December 9, 2008 9:57 am
 

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

IMA WHITESOX FAN, AND WOULD HATE TO SEE THE CUBS GET PEAVY....BUT IF YOU DONT KNOW WHO JAKE PEAVE IS.....YOUR A FUCKING MORAN....




Since: Feb 13, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 9:49 am
 

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

If you think there is any chance Madsen is involved in this trade, you better brush up on your league knowledge.  He is absolutely untouchable in any deal that did not include a franchise player himself going to Philly.


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