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Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

Posted on: December 8, 2008 8:23 pm
Edited on: December 8, 2008 8:47 pm
 

LAS VEGAS -- The continued effort between San Diego and the Cubs to figure out a way to send ace Jake Peavy to Chicago has resulted in their engaging the Philadelphia Phillies as a potential third team to help facilitate a deal, CBSSports.com has learned.

The potential trade remains complicated, and multiple sources cautioned that it might not get done with the Phillies. But those sources agreed Monday that the Padres and Cubs continue attempting to figure out a way to get it done, and the Padres' preference, as stated by general manager Kevin Towers earlier Monday, is to deal sooner rather than later.

Current talks center around the Cubs sending third-base prospect Josh Vitters, right-handed pitcher Kevin Hart and possibly veteran Jason Marquis, to the Padres in exchange for Peavy.

Any Phillies' involvement could wind up sending left-hander J.A. Happ, 26, the Phillies' third-round pick in the 2004 draft, to San Diego. The Padres and Phillies also have discussed catcher Chris Coste, according to sources.

The Padres currently are thin behind the plate and, as of now, would open the season with Nick Hundley catching.

The Padres are not exactly enamored at the prospect of obtaining Marquis but, then again, it appears, neither is anybody else. Sources say one of the hurdles the Padres and Cubs are attempting to clear is that in order to add Peavy's contract -- he's due $63 million over the next four years -- Chicago would have to clear some salary.

Marquis is due $9.875 million in 2009, the final year of his contract. Chicago is shopping Marquis and hopes to trade him, sources said, to clear room for Peavy. If the Cubs cannot, the Padres likely would take him and pay between $4 and $5 million of his salary, with the Cubs taking care of the rest.

What the Cubs would like to do is find a club that would relieve them of all of Marquis' salary, but right now that appears to be the impossible dream.

Other names that have been discussed between the Cubs and Padres include infielder Ronny Cedeno and pitcher Angel Guzman. The Cubs are leaning against dealing left-hander Sean Marshall, sources said.

It is not clear who would be going back to the Phillies -- and one source cautioned late Monday afternoon that Philadelphia's involvement in the talks well could be fleeting -- but they are known to have interest in Cubs infielder Mark De Rosa. The Phillies also are hoping to add an established veteran starting pitcher as protection in case negotiations with Jamie Moyer break down beyond repair.

The Padres and Cubs also have engaged Baltimore in the talks. In that scenario, sources say, the Cubs would send outfielder Felix Pie to the Orioles for pitcher Garrett Olson, then send Olson, VItters and a package of others that could include Hart and Cedeno to the Padres.

Comments

Since: Sep 2, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 9:09 am
 

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

THE CUBS NOT IN UR LIFETIME, ALL YOU LOSERS ON THE NORTHSIDE, WILL NEVER WIN THE WORLD SERIES, GO GET PEAVEY, HE SUCKS!!!  ALL U BLEACHER BUMS, GET UR GLOVES READY FOR ALL THE BOMBS THAT WILL BE COMMING  UR WAY W/ HIS ASS PITCHING!!!!!!!!!!!!



Since: Sep 2, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 9:03 am
 

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

hey douche bag, THE WORLD CHAMP PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES ...   DON'T HAVE TO GET INVOLVED W/ THIS PEAVEY TRADE, AND PROBABLY WON'T.  WE WILL STAND PAT, AND WIN IT ALL AGAIN!!!!!



Since: Dec 9, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 8:59 am
 

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

Well Hoodlum thanks for jumping off the Wagon already.  Nothing like saying we were a one hit wonder.  Tell me how we are not able to compete next year with the staff we have when we did it last year?  Please I would love to hear the reasoning behind this.  Our pitching was great in the playoffs.  Bullpen best in baseball.  Come on buddy, your throwing a World Series Champ (just got chills) under the bus already.



Since: Dec 13, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2008 8:54 am
 

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

People.....read the story over again....PEAVY IS NOT GOING TO PHILADELPHIA......to make the deal between THE PADRES AND CUBS happen, the CUBS might have to trade Derosa to the Phillies to get the extra arm needed to send to San Diego....As far as someone not knowing who Jake Peavy is and claiming to be a baseball fan?....You're a borderline fan at best...



Since: Mar 15, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 8:43 am
 

why would you want Marquis?

I just dont get it......someone is actually willing to take Jason Marquis off our hands?  He is a #4 pitcher at best.......why would anyone pay him that ludicrous salary Jim Hendry stupidily got stuck with?



Since: Jan 29, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 6:55 am
 

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

This trade has been talked about for so long that it has to get done eventually. One way or another, the Cubs and Padres will figure out a way to make this thing happen, no matter how many extra teams or pieces they need to involve. Jake Peavy will without a doubt be wearing a Cubs uniform come opening day.




Since: Jul 28, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 3:49 am
 

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

You're joking right? He's a Cy Young award winner. He had the 3rd best ERA in the NL on a team with 99 loses. If you follow baseball you know who he is.




Since: Oct 18, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2008 2:36 am
 

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

Wake up-They are the 3rd Team......They are not getting Peavy..........The Cubs are and they are going to get a shitty or avg Player in return.......They got there Championship this Year and are not Repeating.......The Mets will spend Money and be a better Team then they we're this Year and My Cubbies will be a force to recon with ..........They won't have another Let Down and the Dodgers aren't gonna have a Manny to give them some luck and make them think they are Better then they are.......The NL will be this----East--Mets Central---Cubs  West--Arizona  WC--St.Louis........So Just Enjoy 08 because it will be 2032 before ya see another one......



Since: Jul 2, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 2:06 am
 

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

Am I to understand that the Phillies would give up Chris Coste & AJ Happ for Mark De Rosa? i would do that deal in a heartbeat if I'm the Phillies. Happ is a very good pitching prospect, but Coste is a career minor leaguer, and a very suspect defensive catcher. He  might well share catching duties with Hundley because Coste is a pretty good clutch hitter. Derosa could really fill so many needs on the Phils, he can play OF, 3rd base and 2nd, that  would be a pretty nice catch for the Phils.



Since: Nov 24, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 2:04 am
 

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

Seriously? The Phils need not even be in on this deal, there really is nothing to gain by trading Happ or Carrasco.  The Padres farm system is awful. The way Jason Donald has been tearing up winter ball, I would feel comfortable with him filling in at second base until Utley can return.  Let's not forget that Greg Dobbs is a second baseman and Eric Bruntlett is versatile enough to play anywhere on the field.  It would be great to be able to acquire a pitcher like Peavy, who is more of a groundball/strikeout type pitcher, but let's be realistic, he doesn't want to be here.  Unless I'm missing something, there are still talks about adding Derek Lowe, who is the best ground ball pitcher in baseball. And still the opportunity to resign Moyer, who has already said that he would like to retire as a Phillie.  Imagine that staff...Hamels, Myers, Lowe, Blanton, Moyer...send Kyle Kendrick back to triple a where he belongs, and continue to develop Happ into the big game pitcher that he can be.  What would they get out of jumping in on this deal and adding their own prospects?  Mark DeRosa? Really?  The only thing I can really say nice about DeRosa is that he's a gritty player, but he lacks any type of pop in his bat that the Phils would be missing from Utley.  Other than another big time starter, the Phils only need is a corner outfielder with some power potential i.e. Juan Rivera, Milton Bradley, the return of Bobby Abreu??? As far as Coste goes, he's still overrated, and if you can get rid of him, get rid of him.  With Marson coming soon, and with Ruiz showing off his ability to swing the bat in the post season, Coste is expendable...


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