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Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

Posted on: December 8, 2008 8:23 pm
Edited on: December 8, 2008 8:47 pm

LAS VEGAS -- The continued effort between San Diego and the Cubs to figure out a way to send ace Jake Peavy to Chicago has resulted in their engaging the Philadelphia Phillies as a potential third team to help facilitate a deal, has learned.

The potential trade remains complicated, and multiple sources cautioned that it might not get done with the Phillies. But those sources agreed Monday that the Padres and Cubs continue attempting to figure out a way to get it done, and the Padres' preference, as stated by general manager Kevin Towers earlier Monday, is to deal sooner rather than later.

Current talks center around the Cubs sending third-base prospect Josh Vitters, right-handed pitcher Kevin Hart and possibly veteran Jason Marquis, to the Padres in exchange for Peavy.

Any Phillies' involvement could wind up sending left-hander J.A. Happ, 26, the Phillies' third-round pick in the 2004 draft, to San Diego. The Padres and Phillies also have discussed catcher Chris Coste, according to sources.

The Padres currently are thin behind the plate and, as of now, would open the season with Nick Hundley catching.

The Padres are not exactly enamored at the prospect of obtaining Marquis but, then again, it appears, neither is anybody else. Sources say one of the hurdles the Padres and Cubs are attempting to clear is that in order to add Peavy's contract -- he's due $63 million over the next four years -- Chicago would have to clear some salary.

Marquis is due $9.875 million in 2009, the final year of his contract. Chicago is shopping Marquis and hopes to trade him, sources said, to clear room for Peavy. If the Cubs cannot, the Padres likely would take him and pay between $4 and $5 million of his salary, with the Cubs taking care of the rest.

What the Cubs would like to do is find a club that would relieve them of all of Marquis' salary, but right now that appears to be the impossible dream.

Other names that have been discussed between the Cubs and Padres include infielder Ronny Cedeno and pitcher Angel Guzman. The Cubs are leaning against dealing left-hander Sean Marshall, sources said.

It is not clear who would be going back to the Phillies -- and one source cautioned late Monday afternoon that Philadelphia's involvement in the talks well could be fleeting -- but they are known to have interest in Cubs infielder Mark De Rosa. The Phillies also are hoping to add an established veteran starting pitcher as protection in case negotiations with Jamie Moyer break down beyond repair.

The Padres and Cubs also have engaged Baltimore in the talks. In that scenario, sources say, the Cubs would send outfielder Felix Pie to the Orioles for pitcher Garrett Olson, then send Olson, VItters and a package of others that could include Hart and Cedeno to the Padres.


Since: Dec 7, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 1:22 am

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

The Phillies dont need Peavy any way, and i dont understand why he wouldnt want to come to Philly after they won the world series. In my opinion they should not ship Happ out of town for anyone because he has a good future. Hamels, Myers, Blanton, Happ and Kendrick is a decent 5, hopefully Moyer doesnt go, but who knows. It doesnt matter though, just like every Philly team, the Phils wont be part of a block buster trade or pick any big names up, and hey, they dont need to, they are the current champions.

Since: Aug 23, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2008 12:51 am

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

As a lifelong Phils fan, I too am mystified at how someone could infer from that article that Peavy is on his way to Philadelphia.

Let me say though, that if we could get Peavy for Carrasco and Happ, I would pay the plane fare for those two to San DIego. Peavy is a flat stud and anyone who says otherwise has not seen that freakin bulldog pitch.

Interesting that maybe the Phils could pick up a player through this deal. I'd rather have Happ at $250,000 that a mediocre Marquis though. I like De Rosa, he would fit like a glove in Philly. Can play any infield position and a total gamer. Plug him in at second while Utley recovers and have a third baseman/outfielder after 26 comes back.

Since: Dec 9, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 12:46 am

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks


Exactly.  The man has a no trade clause, and I seem to recall he's only approved the Cubs and the Braves (among interested teams).  Philly can't have him, but if they can make their team better by getting in on the deal, why shouldn't they?

And for those guys saying Peavy isn't all that good, especially away from home, here are some facts:  his winning percentage is higher on the road over the last 5 years (34-21 on the road, 34-23 at home).  Yes, his era is better at home (by approximately 3/4 of a run), but his road era over the last 5 years is still 3.32.  The man is awesome.  And he has a below-market contract.

Someone also took a shot at DeRosa, who's been exTREMEly valuable to the Cubs, playing every position but catcher and pitcher capably, while hitting really well (for a guy with that kind of versatility).  With Utley out, DeRosa can hold down second, then slide into his super-utility role the rest of the season.  He'll hit 20 homers, drive in between 80 and 90, take a walk and play solid defense.  All while being a great clubhouse guy and media guy.  Every team wants a guy like DeRosa.

Since: Jun 23, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 12:42 am

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks should not be allowed to post. Nobody is forcing you to read articles. If you dont wanna read about it...close your eyes. And yes it is a big deal if you know anything about baseball and they both are household names.

Since: Sep 18, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2008 12:17 am

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks


Since: Sep 18, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2008 12:15 am

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

ummmm...Any self-respecting baseball fan knows plenty about Jake Peavy. He won the Cy Young 2 years ago and is one of the best pitchers in baseball.

Since: Jul 7, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 12:12 am

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

I have a feeling that when JesseJames watches baseball it's one team and one team only.  If you even just watch baseball highlights or are just a casual sports fan you should know who Jake Peavy is.  Wow.

Since: Sep 29, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2008 12:12 am

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

Philadelphia fans might be slightly slow... Learn to read all you people that thought the Phillies would be getting Peavy in another scenario.  Instead of reading just the heading, read the whole article!  You'd be shipping and receiving, and the one player you wouldn't be getting is Peavy.  Holy crap, stay in school Philly fans...

JesseJames?  I should've known better before I even started reading that crap you wrote.  Like others have said, Cy Young=Best pitcher in your respective league.  If you don't know who Peavy is, then you better start getting to know him because he'll be playing on the northside soon.

P.s. sorry for being a jerk lol, rough night...

Since: Nov 15, 2007
Posted on: December 9, 2008 12:01 am

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

That's just an idiotic comment. If you're reading a baseball blog then yes, you absolutely know who Jake Peavy or Rich harden are!

Since: Jul 26, 2008
Posted on: December 8, 2008 11:19 pm

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

Jesse Jackson, your an idiot, Jake Peavy won the 2007 Cy Young award, and if you actually did follow baseball you would know who he is. I think any average baseball fan would know who he is. But I'm also getting bored with hearing about this and hope whatever happens, happens soon so people can move on to something else

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