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Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

Posted on: December 8, 2008 8:23 pm
Edited on: December 8, 2008 8:47 pm

LAS VEGAS -- The continued effort between San Diego and the Cubs to figure out a way to send ace Jake Peavy to Chicago has resulted in their engaging the Philadelphia Phillies as a potential third team to help facilitate a deal, has learned.

The potential trade remains complicated, and multiple sources cautioned that it might not get done with the Phillies. But those sources agreed Monday that the Padres and Cubs continue attempting to figure out a way to get it done, and the Padres' preference, as stated by general manager Kevin Towers earlier Monday, is to deal sooner rather than later.

Current talks center around the Cubs sending third-base prospect Josh Vitters, right-handed pitcher Kevin Hart and possibly veteran Jason Marquis, to the Padres in exchange for Peavy.

Any Phillies' involvement could wind up sending left-hander J.A. Happ, 26, the Phillies' third-round pick in the 2004 draft, to San Diego. The Padres and Phillies also have discussed catcher Chris Coste, according to sources.

The Padres currently are thin behind the plate and, as of now, would open the season with Nick Hundley catching.

The Padres are not exactly enamored at the prospect of obtaining Marquis but, then again, it appears, neither is anybody else. Sources say one of the hurdles the Padres and Cubs are attempting to clear is that in order to add Peavy's contract -- he's due $63 million over the next four years -- Chicago would have to clear some salary.

Marquis is due $9.875 million in 2009, the final year of his contract. Chicago is shopping Marquis and hopes to trade him, sources said, to clear room for Peavy. If the Cubs cannot, the Padres likely would take him and pay between $4 and $5 million of his salary, with the Cubs taking care of the rest.

What the Cubs would like to do is find a club that would relieve them of all of Marquis' salary, but right now that appears to be the impossible dream.

Other names that have been discussed between the Cubs and Padres include infielder Ronny Cedeno and pitcher Angel Guzman. The Cubs are leaning against dealing left-hander Sean Marshall, sources said.

It is not clear who would be going back to the Phillies -- and one source cautioned late Monday afternoon that Philadelphia's involvement in the talks well could be fleeting -- but they are known to have interest in Cubs infielder Mark De Rosa. The Phillies also are hoping to add an established veteran starting pitcher as protection in case negotiations with Jamie Moyer break down beyond repair.

The Padres and Cubs also have engaged Baltimore in the talks. In that scenario, sources say, the Cubs would send outfielder Felix Pie to the Orioles for pitcher Garrett Olson, then send Olson, VItters and a package of others that could include Hart and Cedeno to the Padres.


Since: Dec 8, 2008
Posted on: December 8, 2008 11:11 pm

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

As much as i love coste.. nobody is that thin at catcher for him to be worth anything.. even the padres.. hes 34yrs old.. hes a professional hitter though.. that guy loves to swing the bat.. but apparently Ruiz calls the game better than he hits so he gets all the PT..  but  you are 100% right about lou marson being our everyday catcher next year.. cant wait for that.. i wish chase wasnt hurt because now we might need jason donald to play second base.. them winter meetings would be alot different with him (donald) on the table.. hes tearin up the winter leagues right now.. but anyway peavy would be fantastic.. but if it has anything to do with carasco i dont want any parts of it.. that guy is gonna be great.. cant wait for him either.. besides peavy theres nothing the padres have that would fit with this ballclub.. but i dont know anything about there farm team so if thats where were lookin i hope amaro knows what hes doin.. i love the where this ball club is headed.. i knew we were gonna win a championship.. i just didnt know it was gonna be this soon.. theres alot of good things comin outta philly for the next few years..

Tony P.

Newark DE

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: December 8, 2008 10:53 pm

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

I'm surprised how much they want Peavy when he's only been average both away from Petco and at Wrigley Field for his career.  He's an OK pitcher but he isn't better than Zambrano and he isn't worth $15 million a year plus the prospects to give up.

last year Peavy was 5-6 with a 4.28 era, 1.45 WHIP and .256 BAA away from Petco.  For his career he's got a 3.80 era and 1.30 WHIP on the road.

To make the point, Peavy on the road last year was very similar to the man he'd be replacing, Jason Marquis, who had a 4.53 era, 1.45 WHIP and .268 BAA.  Not that I think Marquis is as good as Peavy, because he's not anywhere close.  I just don't think Peavy is in the top 20 pitchers in the league after he leaves Petco, and I don't think he's worth $60 million and a package including Josh Vitters.

Since: Aug 23, 2006
Posted on: December 8, 2008 10:47 pm

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

Can we throw in a couple of Pat's steaks and tell San Diego to keep their lousy players who nobody wants.  Jake Peavy wouldn't be a 500 pitcher at Citizens Bank Park.  He's gutless and has no personality.  Maybe he could find a job pitching in the Japanese league against 5' 6" 150lb power hitters in a little league size field.  The Phillies should dictate who they'll trade and who they'll get back.  Take it or leave it.  By the way do the Cubs have an outfielder who can catch a flyball?  I still don't think so.

Since: Aug 23, 2006
Posted on: December 8, 2008 10:39 pm

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

Peavy wouldn't survive in Citizens Bank Park where fly balls leave the park quite frequently.  Although a Cy Young winner in Petco Park, he would be the second coming of Adam Eaton in Philly.  My aunt lives in a surburb of San Diego and told me that they're a bunch of miserable losers.  We might give up Clay Condrey and some washed up pitcher down on the farm for Jake the snake.  If someone wants JA Happ let them pay accordingly for a young southpaw.  Although I'd like DeRosa here, the price would have to be more than him to pry Happ away.  Do the Cubs have anybody who can play the outfield better than Pat the Bat?  I didn't think so.

Since: Sep 27, 2006
Posted on: December 8, 2008 10:13 pm

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

What???? Happ AND carrasco for Peavy?  Are you serious?  You already said that Peavy doesn't even want to pitch in Philly.  Carrasco and Happ are keepers!  That DeRosa crap is just that, crap.  Where's he gonna' play? You don't give up the farm for a guy that won, what   12 games? That don't need to get crazy here.....they need to address the current stuff like what are they going to do with Howard?  Contract this time or what.  I never understand all the crap about "no one wants to pitch in that place".  There were plenty of parks easier than the Cit, if they don't WANT to pitch for the champions....the hell with them. Peavy couldn't handle the pressure of piching in Philly anyway.

Since: Apr 23, 2008
Posted on: December 8, 2008 10:10 pm

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

The Phillies need a starter like Peavy to compete for the NL East again next year.  I hope they make the necessary moves to get someone like Peavy.   As a lifelong Phillies fan, tickled with winning it all, I still know they can't win again with the starting staff they had this year.  That was a one time run. 

Since: Nov 24, 2007
Posted on: December 8, 2008 10:00 pm

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

Really?  Is there another Jake Peavy in San Diego I haven't heard of yet?  I'm sorry I was under the impression that a Cy Young winning pitcher was involved.  Guess you are right....he's a nobody.

Since: Oct 30, 2006
Posted on: December 8, 2008 9:51 pm

Phillies involved in Cubs-Padres Peavy talks

JesseJames, while I too am getting sick of hearing about this (the Padres need to make a deal and end it already), Jake Peavy is an ace pitcher. He was, in fact, a Cy Young award winner. If baseball fans don't know who he is, they really should...

Since: Oct 11, 2008
Posted on: December 8, 2008 9:37 pm

Phillies should make a run at Peavy - why not??

Other than the money, the Phillies have something to offer. Getting Peavy would make them a serious contender to repeat. On the other hand, the will need a left fielder and possibly a third start if the Moyer talks go south. The offseason is offically getting interesting!!

Since: Jul 6, 2008
Posted on: December 8, 2008 9:34 pm

Im so sick of hearing about this

Am I the only one who is extremely sick of hearing about this?  Who cares?  I wouldnt know who Jake Peavy was if he was 2 feet away from me.  Who would?  I follow baseball and all, but Christ.  He'll play for who he plays for.  You'd think we were talking about Jordan in his prime.  Why do people act like all these baseball players are household names when theyre not?  Does Joe Sportsfan know who jake Peavy is, or Rich Harden, or so many others we are inundated with when they change teams?

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