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Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

Posted on: December 9, 2008 9:48 pm
Edited on: December 10, 2008 2:17 am
 

LAS VEGAS -- Jake Peavy may or may not have been singing Go Cubs Go in a bar here after attending the Brooks and Dunn concert with his buddy, Houston Astro Roy Oswalt, the other night.

But after more talks Tuesday between the Padres and Chicago Cubs, Peavy's long, strange trip out of San Diego appears to be moving along to a place where Peavy will be able to memorize those lyrics for good.

The Padres and Cubs were scheduled to hold another session of talks later Tuesday evening, according to San Diego general manager Kevin Towers, who said he "feels probably better today at this time than yesterday at this time" regarding the progress of the trade talks.

"We've made some progress," Towers said. "We're just not there yet."

He described the Cubs as having some work to do. Though he wasn't specific, sources with knowledge of the talks say the Cubs must move payroll to take on the $63 million Peavy is owed over the next four years.

Specifically, they're attempting to move pitcher Jason Marquis and his $9.875 million salary owed for 2009.

Though Towers said the Padres and Cubs haven't completely settled on the pieces Chicago would send to San Diego, there is general agreement. Third base prospect Josh Vitters certainly would be in the package, which also is expected to include right-handed pitcher Kevin Hart and possibly pitcher Angel Guzman. Shortstop Ronny Cedeno is also a possibility.

A third team almost certainly would need to be involved, and possibly, according to Towers, a fourth club.

Philadelphia, which could end up acquiring infielder Mark DeRosa from the Cubs and sending pitcher J.A. Happ to the Padres, remains one possibility.

Baltimore, which would sent pitcher Garret Olson to the Cubs for outfielder Felix Pie -- and then the Cubs would pass Olson along to the Padres -- remains another possibility.

The Cubs were said to have been approached by another club -- or more -- Tuesday involving players that could be in the Peavy deal. That could mean either Marquis or DeRosa, or both.

Another twist, that likely will mean more delays if this deal is to be completed: The Padres are looking to pick one player -- and perhaps more -- in Thursday morning's Rule 5 draft and, as a result, they may need to clear some space on their 40-man roster to make room for some of the players in a potential Peavy trade.

That presents a scenario in which the Cubs and Padres could agree to a deal in a day or two but delay announcing it until Friday, Saturday or later.

Towers said he believes Hendry has the power to move now in personnel decisions despite the Cubs' impending sale.

"My impression is he has the ability to move if he is comfortable with what he's giving up," Towers said.

Hendry said on Monday that he is operating with no restrictions while the impending sale progresses.

Comments

Since: Jan 27, 2008
Posted on: December 13, 2008 1:49 am
 

Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

And Kevin Greg in lieu of Kerry Wood... please, what next bring back Joe Borowski. Don't print any WS ticket just yet. maybe the Division again but the team needs a fire lit under them. Soriano, Fukodome, DeRosa, Cedeno are not the clutch players. And can the Cubs expect D.Lee and Aramis to be all that? I think the missed their chance.



Since: Jan 27, 2008
Posted on: December 13, 2008 1:45 am
 

Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

And is there anyway the Cubs can ris themselves of Fukodome, what a mistake--put R.Johnson on Center with Pie, and Lou should have called Raul before he signed with Philly.



Since: Jan 27, 2008
Posted on: December 13, 2008 1:42 am
 

Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

DeRosa is expendable, he's a utility player cause he can't land a starting job. Pitching..pitching...pitching. Take note what the Yanks are doing. Peavy would end up being #1 starter in Chicago, #2 Harden, then "Z", Lilly..Dempster had his year but don't see a repeat .



Since: Aug 1, 2008
Posted on: December 10, 2008 8:00 pm
 

Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

to what?



Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: December 10, 2008 6:08 pm
 

Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

Is this why the list of teams he approved trades to included yankees, braves, cardinals, and houston. Is this why the Braves pulled out of the trade talks and to other teams showed interest. It's because he's an average pitcher at best. His career record 86-62. Sounds average to me.  




Since: Oct 30, 2006
Posted on: December 10, 2008 3:58 pm
 

Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

I sure hope Kevin "The Grinder" Towers doesn't wear Hendry down.

As a Cubs fan living in San Diego, I have an interesting perspective here. The reports are all but agreed that Peavy wants to be a Cub. The Pads have to trade him and I think KT figured he could rape the Cubs for him. When Hendry didn't fall for it (we'd have to restructure Peavy's contract anyway), KT tried to trade Peavy to Atlanta and who knows what happened. Either Atlanta realized they were giving up way too much for little more than a free agent signing or Peavy nixed the deal.

Now Towers keeps spinning and spinning looking for more teams to help complete the deal and get more of something for essentially nothing. He's been instructed to trade Peavy. Peavy has a no trade contract. Peavy wants to play for the Cubs.  Do the math.

There's nothing wrong with trying and getting the most you can for a STUD pitcher and I am ALL FOR this deal getting done but the Cubs should NOT give up too much. As much as I'd like to be free of Marquis and his crap pitching, giving up Vitters, Marquis (and eating his salary) and DeRosa is MORE than enough. If the Pads want Hart or Guzman, then they don't get Vitters. If they want the pitching prospect from Philli, then they don't get Cedeno. Remember, the trade is going to depend on signing Peavy to a Dempster-size contract -- we're not getting him for free. It sucks as a San Diegan that the Pads are in such a mess but the Cubs shouldn't have to rebuild the Pads starting lineup AND minor league system to get a player who they have to sign to a similar salary as a FA....unless Peavy is willing to play for his current contract through 2012...then this is an entirely different matter altogether.

Remember, the Cards just raped the Padres of an All-Star calibur SS for nothing prospects. We're offering them impact players for a player who only wants to play for us anyway???




Since: Dec 9, 2008
Posted on: December 10, 2008 1:37 pm
 

Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

Chicago radio has been reporting this morning that things are getting close, using the Phillies as the third team.  There was also a little blurb on the Twins wanting to jump in and take DeRosa in exchange for young pitching.

They're saying the Cubs give up Vitters, either Hart or Guzman, Marquis (Cubs to pay about half the salary), and DeRosa for Peavy.  The Phillies take DeRosa and supply San Diego with a prospect.  DeRosa is about $5 million, and the Cubs would be rid of about $5 million of Marquis's salary, so this could make the money work out, while not strapping them as they try to bring in a left handed bat for right field.




Since: Dec 9, 2008
Posted on: December 10, 2008 1:31 pm
 

Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

I don't know that Theriot is what the Cubs need at the leadoff spot.  He gets thrown out at too high a clip.  I'm not entirely against using him there and the lefty Fontenot at second, but I'm not 100% sold on Fontenot (known here on Chicago radio as the "Pocket Rocket").  His minor league track record doesn't suggest much power or speed, so he'd be a #8 hitter to me.  A middle of the order lefty playing right field would make this all work out, but I don't think Abreu would be worth the money, and Ibanez is a butcher out there.  I don't think I'd want Bradley in the clubhouse, either, plus he's not durable.  Given the uncertainty surround the Cubs with payroll and all that, this is a hard puzzle to put together.



Since: Nov 26, 2008
Posted on: December 10, 2008 12:29 pm
 

Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

Follow this saga and more on !!



Since: Sep 17, 2006
Posted on: December 10, 2008 11:26 am
 

Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

Stick to football, Redskins.  This is such a blatantly ignorant statement, I can't believe you took the time to type it in.  Peavy is a horse, has been for several years, and is hitting his peak years now.  Teams are not in a bidding war for him due to the no-trade clause - why jump into something if you know he is gonna deny any deal you could come up with?  Average pitcher?  He is downright nasty - your inability to see this shows pretty clearly that you haven't held a bat since you were about 12 years old and have never seen the guy pitch, making hitters look foolish.  His only real down season since he matured was when he was hurt.  A rotation of Peavy, Zambrano, Dempster, Harden........ that has to scare the crap out of any team in the NL Central to even think about.  And can the Cubs possibly hit any worse than they have the past 2 years in the playoffs?  Practically impossible.  Pitching and defense wins in the playoffs 9 times outta 10, and adding Peavy would be a coup.  I also hope Pie goes to the O's for Roberts, with Marquis.  The guy is the next Corey Patterson - talent but no patience at the plate and a lousy batting eye.  "You can't steal 1st base."   Why the O's would take Corey Lite is beyond me, but if other teams think he will develop, let them have him.  Where is Corey now?  That is Pie in 6-8 years after frustrating the ownership and fans of whatever team is dumb enough to trade for him.  And finally, on DeRosa - love the guy, solid player, gritty - the kind of guy you love to have on your team.  But entirely expendable when you look at adding pieces like Peavy, Roberts...... if they could get Peavy AND Roberts, they could mail it in for the NL Central.


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