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Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

Posted on: December 9, 2008 9:48 pm
Edited on: December 10, 2008 2:17 am

LAS VEGAS -- Jake Peavy may or may not have been singing Go Cubs Go in a bar here after attending the Brooks and Dunn concert with his buddy, Houston Astro Roy Oswalt, the other night.

But after more talks Tuesday between the Padres and Chicago Cubs, Peavy's long, strange trip out of San Diego appears to be moving along to a place where Peavy will be able to memorize those lyrics for good.

The Padres and Cubs were scheduled to hold another session of talks later Tuesday evening, according to San Diego general manager Kevin Towers, who said he "feels probably better today at this time than yesterday at this time" regarding the progress of the trade talks.

"We've made some progress," Towers said. "We're just not there yet."

He described the Cubs as having some work to do. Though he wasn't specific, sources with knowledge of the talks say the Cubs must move payroll to take on the $63 million Peavy is owed over the next four years.

Specifically, they're attempting to move pitcher Jason Marquis and his $9.875 million salary owed for 2009.

Though Towers said the Padres and Cubs haven't completely settled on the pieces Chicago would send to San Diego, there is general agreement. Third base prospect Josh Vitters certainly would be in the package, which also is expected to include right-handed pitcher Kevin Hart and possibly pitcher Angel Guzman. Shortstop Ronny Cedeno is also a possibility.

A third team almost certainly would need to be involved, and possibly, according to Towers, a fourth club.

Philadelphia, which could end up acquiring infielder Mark DeRosa from the Cubs and sending pitcher J.A. Happ to the Padres, remains one possibility.

Baltimore, which would sent pitcher Garret Olson to the Cubs for outfielder Felix Pie -- and then the Cubs would pass Olson along to the Padres -- remains another possibility.

The Cubs were said to have been approached by another club -- or more -- Tuesday involving players that could be in the Peavy deal. That could mean either Marquis or DeRosa, or both.

Another twist, that likely will mean more delays if this deal is to be completed: The Padres are looking to pick one player -- and perhaps more -- in Thursday morning's Rule 5 draft and, as a result, they may need to clear some space on their 40-man roster to make room for some of the players in a potential Peavy trade.

That presents a scenario in which the Cubs and Padres could agree to a deal in a day or two but delay announcing it until Friday, Saturday or later.

Towers said he believes Hendry has the power to move now in personnel decisions despite the Cubs' impending sale.

"My impression is he has the ability to move if he is comfortable with what he's giving up," Towers said.

Hendry said on Monday that he is operating with no restrictions while the impending sale progresses.


Since: Dec 9, 2008
Posted on: December 10, 2008 3:08 am

Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

This is interesting.  I don't want to see DeRosa go.  Like the people I've read here who seem to be Cub fans, I know how valuable he's been to this team.  I've thought about how good Fontenot was in 2008, and I see him as a sell-high candidate.  His minor league track record doesn't seem to suggest that he can maintain last year's pace.  But if we ship out Cedeno and one of either DeRosa or Fontenot, we've gutted our middle infield.  If 2 of those guys are gone, DeRosa is the one we've gotta keep to stay competitive, but he's also the one with the larger salary.  Rock and a hard place time.

Maybe we can use Fontenot to convince a team to take Marquis.  I'd love to see them both go to Baltimore for Brian Roberts.  It'd be an overall reduction in salary, and we'd get a lefty leadoff man.

I wish the Fukudome gamble had paid off.  We'd be just fine if it had.  He was so good the first 2 months.  He just couldn't adjust after the pitchers found the holes in his swing.  I hope he's been doing nothing but watching tape this offseason.  So he's a 4 year, $40 million albatross.  Another one, and I hate to say it, may be Derrek Lee.

Roberts, Peavy, and a left handed hitting first baseman...oh, there's no point finishing that sentence.  This is what happens when a fan's imagination gets away from him.

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: December 10, 2008 2:52 am

Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

Derosa is ok and I wouldn't mind seeing him stay but he had a career year and like most experts have said...he probably will not repeat those numbers

Since: Nov 18, 2006
Posted on: December 10, 2008 2:33 am

Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

Mark Derosa had a good year, but he was a decent bet to be one of the most overpriced players in baseball before the season started.

It's funny to see Cubs fans thinking they are actually "losing" something in a deal involving a Cy Young winner even when they have a replacement like Fontenot, who is exactly the type of player the Padres should be targeting.

Instead, somehow Marquis, Derosa, Vitters and AAAA talent appears to get this deal done. I don't understand that, and if the Padres don't end up with Marshall in this deal, this could end up a disaster for San Diego.

Since: Oct 13, 2008
Posted on: December 10, 2008 2:04 am

Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

I was not happy when I read Mark Derosa's name.  As Cubs go - he was the most valuable.  He was the only one to show up in the playoffs and he was a horse at whatever position the Cubs needed. Not only that but, sending him to a national League team would just mean he would be the next cog in the century long curse.   

Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: December 10, 2008 1:21 am

Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

Since: Feb 4, 2007
Posted on: December 10, 2008 12:19 am

Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

What I mean to say is that the cubs need to concentrate on finding a leadoff hitter.  Their pitching is solid.

Of course Peavy would make our  pitching that much better, but the cubs need a leadoff hitter more than they need another starter

Since: Feb 4, 2007
Posted on: December 10, 2008 12:13 am

Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

I could not agree more, 

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2008 11:58 pm

Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

Peavy is a ace..if you cub fans think this is bad for you, you have no idea what ur talking about

Since: Oct 1, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2008 11:21 pm

Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

The cubs can afford to give up their utility man DeRosa. He can play infield and outfield and hit. they would give up prospects before him.

Since: Jul 27, 2007
Posted on: December 9, 2008 11:14 pm

Padres, Cubs progress in Peavy talks

I totally agree with rschm.  If you think "Peavy" is a .500 pitcher, meaning he is mediocre, than you're retarded.  His K's and ERA are outstanding.  The Padres are dumping salary and the're handcuffed by Peavy's no trade clause...totally lopsided trade if it goes down in the Cub's favor. 

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