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Cubs out of Jake Peavy talks

Posted on: December 11, 2008 1:00 pm
Edited on: December 11, 2008 1:56 pm

LAS VEGAS -- The Chicago Cubs are out of the Jake Peavy talks.

Cubs general manager Jim Hendry told Padres GM Kevin Towers on Thursday morning that the Cubs have decided to do other things. Their first priority is adding a left-handed bat. Among those they're interested in on the free-agent market are Milton Bradley and Raul Ibanez. They also are investigating the possibility of adding free agent lefty pitcher Randy Johnson.

Whatever they do, it won't be Peavy.

"It was the Cubs' decision," Towers said. "They ruled it out this morning."

The Padres had constructed an elaborate deal with the Cubs that would have involved three or four teams, most likely Baltimore and Philadelphia. Other teams became involved in the talks when it became apparent that the Cubs were thinking of including infielder Mark DeRosa in the deal. Minnesota, for example, called and inquired about DeRosa -- the Twins wanted to play him at third base.

The Padres were attempting to arrange a four-, five-, or six-player package for Peavy and, among other scenarios, were talking about the possibility of acquiring Cubs third base prospect Josh Vitters, right-hander Kevin Hart, Baltimore pitcher Garret Olson and Philadelphia pitcher J.A. Happ, among others.

The Cubs were going to have to move pitcher Jason Marquis and his $9.875 million salary, and because they couldn't find another taker, he was going to go to the Padres -- but the Cubs were going to have to pick up a significant portion.

A Cubs source said that they ultimately decided it was simply too many prospects and too much money for them. The Phillies are described as being very disappointed because they were hoping to obtain infielder Mark DeRosa from the Cubs in the deal. They still could engage the Cubs in those talks, though Chicago doesn't really want to trade DeRosa.

Talks regarding Peavy have been dragging on for eight weeks or more, and the Padres have gone from being close with Atlanta to close with the Cubs to, now, apparently, being forced to huddle back in San Diego next week and discuss their alternatives.

"We'll regroup next week and figure out what we're going to do," Towers said.

There is one thing the GM is sure of.

"We need to start moving forward," Towers said. "We can't keep doing this deep into the winter."

The Padres have been searching for trade partners because they're attempting to shed payroll, and Peavy is owed $63 million over the next four years. Owner John Moores is in the middle of an ugly divorce that sources say will strap him for cash, the team lost 99 games in 2008 and attendance dropped almost 13 percent.

The long and laborious talks with Peavy have undergone several bizarre twists, most recently when the pitcher was reported to have been in a Las Vegas bar the other night singing "Go Cubs Go" after attending a Brooks and Dunn concert with his buddy, Houston pitcher Roy Oswalt. The only part of that story that I've confirmed is that Peavy indeed was in Las Vegas this week. Among other things, he attended Greg Maddux's retirement press conference.

One alternative now, he said, is to release a statement that the club will keep Peavy.

But that doesn't change the fact that the Padres need to shave payroll.

While Towers said he didn't sense from Hendry that the deal could be resurrected with the Cubs, the domino effect of what else happens on the market this winter still could take this thing in a different direction.

Atlanta on Thursday remained deep in negotiations attempting to land free agent pitcher A.J. Burnett. If he goes to the New York Yankees, though, the Braves will be forced to readjust and conceivably could re-engage the Padres.

Also, as reported several weeks ago, the Los Angeles Angels held brief conversations with the Padres about Peavy several weeks ago, and sources with knowledge of the Angels' thinking say the club very well might turn its attention back to Peavy if the Angels whiff on Mark Teixeira and CC Sabathia. With Sabathia having been delivered to the Yankees, the Angels so far are 0-for-1.

They could potentially satisfy the Padres with a package built around right-hander Jered Weaver, one of two infielders -- Erick Aybar or Maicer Izturis -- and a couple of prospects.

Further complicating the situation, though, is that Peavy has no-trade powers and so far has used them to attempt to steer himself toward Chicago. Several people close to the talks believe Peavy is not enamored with going to Atlanta. It is believed he may approve a deal to the Angels, though he could ask for contractual concessions. His preference is to stay in the National League.

Towers said he would probably talk to Barry Axelrod, Peavy's agent, and tell him it's not going to work with the Cubs and they'll have to move on to other alternatives.

"Even if he wants to go somewhere else, I think we need to sit down as an organization and say, 'Do we want to go through this process again?'" Towers said. "It's difficult on the fans."

Not to mention difficult on the Padres, and everyone they're dealing with.

"We're asking a lot," Towers said. "To move Jake Peavy, we would plan on getting a lot. We knew going into the winter there were no guarantees."



Since: Oct 24, 2007
Posted on: December 11, 2008 4:45 pm

Cubs out of Jake Peavy talks

Don't trade Derosa.  He's the most versatile player in the league and can fill any position except while maintain offensive prowess.

Since: Nov 18, 2008
Posted on: December 11, 2008 4:03 pm

Cubs out of Jake Peavy talks

Applaud Hendry!? Are you kidding me?! I don't applaud a GM that shuns a career 3.25 ERA pitcher that begs to come to Chicago. The last superstart to do that was Dawson and that worked out pretty damn well. But I shouldn't worry, we just signed Dumpster...boy do I feel better. I can't wait until the playoffs and see him walk seven batters again. Atta boy, Jim! Left handed bat..hmm let's see. Brian Roberts. You blew that one last year Hendry. This team, and GM now, is in need of a serious shake up. To drop Peavy to look for a left-handed bat instead is the most asinine thing I've heard from the winter meetings. if you get one fine, but they didn't have a left handed bat leading off when they fell on their face in the playoffs. This is a pathetic display of Hendry not being able to admit his cast of clowns won't get swept again.

Since: Dec 6, 2008
Posted on: December 11, 2008 3:56 pm

Cubs out of Jake Peavy talks

Peavy is an absolute injury risk.  This is the reason the Padres are trying to get rid of him.  He had arm problems in 06, and also missed time in '07 with elbow problems.  I believe that getting rid of Peavy has very little to do with shedding salary, as SD is claiming - it has more to do with high-dollar risk.

Since: Dec 9, 2008
Posted on: December 11, 2008 3:54 pm

Cubs out of Jake Peavy talks

The Cubs need to focus on that left hitting outfielder before another pitcher.  The pitching is good the way it is.  Abreu or Ibanez would be so nice.

Since: Oct 1, 2007
Posted on: December 11, 2008 3:26 pm

Cubs out of Jake Peavy talks

Talk Peavy into playing for the Phillies. Otherwise he can sit in San Diego & play for a team not wilkling to win for the foreseeable future.

The Padres could probably get: Happ, Kendrick, Donald (everybody is trying to get him), Eaton (the phillies are willing to pay all but $1 million of his salary), & Coste.

That would give the Padres 3 Major League pitchers, 2 of which aren't eligible for arbitration for at least 3 years, Eaton is in a contract year & pitched in San Diego before, a solid back up catcher & one of the top infield prospects in baseball.

A trade for Peavy would give the Phillies one of the top rotations in baseball. Peavy needs to understand that the visitor's run production was dead even last year between Wrigley & Citizens Bank Park. The Phillies on the other hand have a deeper, stronger team & far better bullpen.

If anybody that reads this has any contact with Peavy, the Padres or the Phillies, float the idea. Maybe we can get a blockbuster done.

Since: Oct 6, 2006
Posted on: December 11, 2008 3:25 pm

Cubs out of Jake Peavy talks

I agree with you Bravesgurl as a braves fan myself I applaud not only our GM but the Cubs also for not caving in to Towers who is proving himself to be a bumbling fool.Peavy is a solid sp who may or may not remain a star if he starts facing stacked AL lineups with DH,or gets traded out of his cavernous homepark in Petco.These GM`s take all these aspects into consideration before making deals as we well know so they imo are being wise not to mortgage their respective rosters and farm systems Once everyone tells this idiot(Towers)no he`ll still be forced to deal Peavy because of the situation in S.D. whether it be cash problems ,rebuilding or whatever and will have to take what scrap offer he can come up with since he obviously thinks more of Peavy than everyone else does.I`m not sure that he isn`t about #4 or #5 in the free agent pool to begin with as C.C.,Burnett,Lowe are all proven winners in smaller parks and against A.L. lineups which at least thru Jake`s career have be decidedly stronger.Isn`t it just a coincedence that the Yanks who have the resources to get anyone or thing never appeared to look Peavy`s direction.I still say he`s no doubt a solid sp but the Cubbies absolutely did the right thing and so did my Braves in telling this jackass to keep his pitcher and we`ll move on.Good luck Cubbies and Braves in `09

Since: Nov 7, 2008
Posted on: December 11, 2008 2:40 pm

Cubs out of Jake Peavy talks

geez...i forgot about the Cubs having couldnt stand that guy when he was on the Dodgers.

Cubs should have been in the WS back in '84 when they had Sutcliffe & Sandberg..but the Pads with Garvey knocked them out.

God that was great. But they got waxed by the Gibson led Tigers...I dont think anyone would have stopped that Detroit team that year...

Since: Nov 30, 2008
Posted on: December 11, 2008 2:32 pm

Cubs out of Jake Peavy talks

Sorry dude, but Soriano was far from "homegrown".  He was signed as a FA from Japan after he found the same loophole Nomo did by retiring from his contract there.  However, I will agree with you that the yankees from 1996-2001 won with guys like brosius, o'neill and tino, I say that all the time.  I commend those teams and try to use that as an example of winning teams.  A solid mix of role players and super-stars.  They haven't won a WS title since they've gone away from that model and I think that's where people get this idea of "buying" WS.  All they have done is buy WS talks and hopes while leaving their fans disappointed.  Same with the Cubs.  It wasn't until Lou came on that they actually started spending the money.  So no, they haven't spent the most money over the course of time...did you happen to see any of those teams of the 90s?!  Rey Sanchez, Steve Buechele, Scott Servais, Manny Alexander, turds.  We had Sandberg, Grace, and Sosa...and a pitching staff headlined by Steve Trachsel, Mark Clark, Kevin Tapani (though I did like Tap), Jim Bullinger, Frank Castillo...again, seriously?  No money there, total crap ball team.  Even in 03 that team wasn't full of superstars with high salaries.  Think about that team for a second...Eric Karros,  Damien Miller!!!, Grudz, Aramis (late year trade, I believe it was Jose Hernandez before him), Alex Gonzalez (hate to see that name), and two great corner outfielders in Alou and Sosa with a piece of garbage in C. Pat in CF.  No money there...our staff was solid in Woody and Pryor, but followed up by a bad zambrano, matt clement (who got 0 run support), and yes...Shawn Estes.  04-06 aren't worth mentioning either...not many upgrades or really any money spent.  It wasn't until they spent money that they have won in the past 2 years.  03 to me was a magical to tragical (made up word I think) season...certainly wasn't like the Yankees of 02-08 that were really expected to win each year because of their roster on paper and the paper they spent for those guys...

Since: Dec 11, 2008
Posted on: December 11, 2008 2:31 pm

Cubs out of Jake Peavy talks

Towers is wanting too much for Peavy. I do not blame the Cubs for pulling out of negotiations with the Padres. Towers already turned down an exceptional offer from the Braves and now have turned down offers from the Cubs, and both times wanting more than they should get. I see Towers going back to the Braves to try and get something done if he really wants to move Peavy, but who knows, with the way Towers is acting he might try to sign Peavy to an extension.

Since: Apr 10, 2008
Posted on: December 11, 2008 2:25 pm

Cubs out of Jake Peavy talks

I think Hendrey did the right thing.  As much as i agree that Peavy would be a great addition i think the cubs would be giving up to much.  I would really hate to lose Mark DeRosa.  He is a true professional.  Sign as a journeyman his entire career, sign with the cubs as a 2nd basement and because of injuries has played 6 different positions without complaining.  Go Cubs

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