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Cubs out of Jake Peavy talks

Posted on: December 11, 2008 1:00 pm
Edited on: December 11, 2008 1:56 pm

LAS VEGAS -- The Chicago Cubs are out of the Jake Peavy talks.

Cubs general manager Jim Hendry told Padres GM Kevin Towers on Thursday morning that the Cubs have decided to do other things. Their first priority is adding a left-handed bat. Among those they're interested in on the free-agent market are Milton Bradley and Raul Ibanez. They also are investigating the possibility of adding free agent lefty pitcher Randy Johnson.

Whatever they do, it won't be Peavy.

"It was the Cubs' decision," Towers said. "They ruled it out this morning."

The Padres had constructed an elaborate deal with the Cubs that would have involved three or four teams, most likely Baltimore and Philadelphia. Other teams became involved in the talks when it became apparent that the Cubs were thinking of including infielder Mark DeRosa in the deal. Minnesota, for example, called and inquired about DeRosa -- the Twins wanted to play him at third base.

The Padres were attempting to arrange a four-, five-, or six-player package for Peavy and, among other scenarios, were talking about the possibility of acquiring Cubs third base prospect Josh Vitters, right-hander Kevin Hart, Baltimore pitcher Garret Olson and Philadelphia pitcher J.A. Happ, among others.

The Cubs were going to have to move pitcher Jason Marquis and his $9.875 million salary, and because they couldn't find another taker, he was going to go to the Padres -- but the Cubs were going to have to pick up a significant portion.

A Cubs source said that they ultimately decided it was simply too many prospects and too much money for them. The Phillies are described as being very disappointed because they were hoping to obtain infielder Mark DeRosa from the Cubs in the deal. They still could engage the Cubs in those talks, though Chicago doesn't really want to trade DeRosa.

Talks regarding Peavy have been dragging on for eight weeks or more, and the Padres have gone from being close with Atlanta to close with the Cubs to, now, apparently, being forced to huddle back in San Diego next week and discuss their alternatives.

"We'll regroup next week and figure out what we're going to do," Towers said.

There is one thing the GM is sure of.

"We need to start moving forward," Towers said. "We can't keep doing this deep into the winter."

The Padres have been searching for trade partners because they're attempting to shed payroll, and Peavy is owed $63 million over the next four years. Owner John Moores is in the middle of an ugly divorce that sources say will strap him for cash, the team lost 99 games in 2008 and attendance dropped almost 13 percent.

The long and laborious talks with Peavy have undergone several bizarre twists, most recently when the pitcher was reported to have been in a Las Vegas bar the other night singing "Go Cubs Go" after attending a Brooks and Dunn concert with his buddy, Houston pitcher Roy Oswalt. The only part of that story that I've confirmed is that Peavy indeed was in Las Vegas this week. Among other things, he attended Greg Maddux's retirement press conference.

One alternative now, he said, is to release a statement that the club will keep Peavy.

But that doesn't change the fact that the Padres need to shave payroll.

While Towers said he didn't sense from Hendry that the deal could be resurrected with the Cubs, the domino effect of what else happens on the market this winter still could take this thing in a different direction.

Atlanta on Thursday remained deep in negotiations attempting to land free agent pitcher A.J. Burnett. If he goes to the New York Yankees, though, the Braves will be forced to readjust and conceivably could re-engage the Padres.

Also, as reported several weeks ago, the Los Angeles Angels held brief conversations with the Padres about Peavy several weeks ago, and sources with knowledge of the Angels' thinking say the club very well might turn its attention back to Peavy if the Angels whiff on Mark Teixeira and CC Sabathia. With Sabathia having been delivered to the Yankees, the Angels so far are 0-for-1.

They could potentially satisfy the Padres with a package built around right-hander Jered Weaver, one of two infielders -- Erick Aybar or Maicer Izturis -- and a couple of prospects.

Further complicating the situation, though, is that Peavy has no-trade powers and so far has used them to attempt to steer himself toward Chicago. Several people close to the talks believe Peavy is not enamored with going to Atlanta. It is believed he may approve a deal to the Angels, though he could ask for contractual concessions. His preference is to stay in the National League.

Towers said he would probably talk to Barry Axelrod, Peavy's agent, and tell him it's not going to work with the Cubs and they'll have to move on to other alternatives.

"Even if he wants to go somewhere else, I think we need to sit down as an organization and say, 'Do we want to go through this process again?'" Towers said. "It's difficult on the fans."

Not to mention difficult on the Padres, and everyone they're dealing with.

"We're asking a lot," Towers said. "To move Jake Peavy, we would plan on getting a lot. We knew going into the winter there were no guarantees."



Since: Nov 7, 2008
Posted on: December 11, 2008 2:21 pm

Cubs out of Jake Peavy talks

Thank God!.

I did not want to see him to go the Cubs. He doesnt want to go to they suck. The Yanks could do it...but they have too much else going on right I dont think that they will get him...but I wouldnt rule it out.

The only other logical place for him to go to is Anaheim or Los Angeles.

Jesus...I dont know what the Angels are doing...but Reagins...get your thumb or Arte's thumb out of your butt and go get this guy.

Stop waiting on what TEX is gonna do...if he signs, he signs...(and all that speculation that the Angels havent made an offer to him is B.S., they have, they just have an agreement with Boros to not announce it because the Angels do not discuss team decisions in the media)...but if Tex saw that you went out and got cant tell me that that wont improve your chances of him deciding on coming to Anaheim.

If Tex doesnt sign...then get Peavy anyways, then sign Dunn for 2 or 3 years for under 30 million, then wait till next year to maybe get Holliday. Matt not Doc.

Since: Nov 17, 2008
Posted on: December 11, 2008 2:19 pm

Cubs out of Jake Peavy talks

Droping out of the Jake Peavy talks is a good move.  The Cubs starting rotation is already solid.  Peavy would have been a nice addition, but to loose a valuable player such as Mark DeRosa who can play several positions at a high level was too much to give up for the Cubs.  Now the Cubs can focus on what caused them to loose in the playoffs, that is lack of hitting in particular left handed hitting.  Brian Roberts appears to be a real option and well as Milton Bradely in the outfield.  Quality left handed hitting will help the Cubs make it to the next level.

Since: Aug 26, 2006
Posted on: December 11, 2008 2:17 pm

Cubs out of Jake Peavy talks

As a Braves fan who has been through all these rumors myself, let me first of all say I know how you Cubs fans feel.

Second, I hope Towers gets stuck with Peavy and his salary. The Braves had a heck of a package together for him and Towers didn't take it. Serves him right if he can't move Peavy.

Since: Nov 29, 2006
Posted on: December 11, 2008 2:14 pm

Bradley A Cubbie?

Milton Bradley, despite his numbers, would be a very poor fit in Chicago. He can wear the uniform, but he just isn't Cub material. He is a "Gary Sheffield" type of problem player, who is more interested in keeping it real, than playing baseball. It's hard to see Piniella and Bradley co-existing in the same dugout. This is a bad move for the Cubs.

Since: Dec 11, 2008
Posted on: December 11, 2008 2:07 pm

Cubs out of Jake Peavy talks

Havent we heard the Cubs were out of this before? then back in to a near deal, now done again ? I think not, pushing down the price maybe, maybe get the Phils or another team  to pick-up part of the tab as well. Peavy wants to be a Cub, the Cubs would like him if the price is right.... Gamesmenship here thats all.

Since: Nov 7, 2006
Posted on: December 11, 2008 1:59 pm

Cubs out of Jake Peavy talks

Are you honestly calling out the Yankees for spending money and winning 26 World Championships while your Cubs, who also spend tons of money, can't win a playoff game let alone a World Series.  Please.  The Cubs have tons of money to spend, probably were the best team last year and still can't get things right.  Try taking a look at the roster for the Yankees in 1996-2001.  The only guys they threw money at during that time was there own home grown talent - Jeter, Williams, Mo, Pettitte, etc.  Sure they brought it talent via trades - Cone, Wells, Clemens, etc, but their teams were built from within.  Nobody thought Paul O'Neill was a stud, until he went to the Yankees.  Ditto for Brosius, Martinez, etc. 

People look at the Yankees having A-Rod and they forget that the Yankees traded one of their home grown superstars in Soriano to get him. 

Try looking in the mirror, first, before you call a team out when they spend money on a player.  The Cubs have probably spent the most money over the course of the years of a team that has not won the World Series!!!!

Since: Dec 11, 2008
Posted on: December 11, 2008 1:56 pm

Cubs out of Jake Peavy talks

Why don't the mets step up and make a deal for Jake the Snake!!!   Forget signing all these scrubs!!!!

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: December 11, 2008 1:51 pm

Cubs out of Jake Peavy talks

The Angels would match up perfectly if Peavy would waive his no trade clause. If the Padres wanted to expand the deal to include Kevin Kouzmanoff I'm certain the Angels would sweeten their offer. Something like Reggie Willits, Erick Aybar, Jered Weaver, a minor league arm and catching prospect might get it done. The Angels can absorb the salaries, they had $54 million to spend based upon FA losses and the budget they had for 2008.

Since: Oct 2, 2008
Posted on: December 11, 2008 1:43 pm

Cubs out of Jake Peavy talks

Peavy is a great player and individual. He hasn't burned his bridges with the Padres. He's never asked to be traded. The Padres are dumping salary and they want the best in return. Peavy is useless to a team like the Padres that will win around 60 games next year. If the Cubs think they don't need Peavy, they're wrong.

Since: Mar 29, 2007
Posted on: December 11, 2008 1:37 pm

Cubs out of Jake Peavy talks

Can't win the World Series without hitting. Peavy would not made the difference in winning the Series.

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