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Angels: No go on Pedro

Posted on: April 22, 2009 9:26 pm

With four starting pitchers on the disabled list, the Los Angeles Angels remain determined to patch their holes from within and will promote right-hander Matt Palmer from Triple-A Salt Lake to start Thursday night's game against Detroit.

Which means, for now, you can forget about the few scraps still out there on the free agent market such as Pedro Martinez. And behind him, neither Paul Byrd nor Mark Mulder should be waiting by their telephones.

"There are obvious free agents out there," Angels general manager Tony Reagins says. "Pedro's representative (Fern Cuza) reached out to me a couple of weeks ago. Since then, there hasn't been any contact."

Nor, Reagins said, are the Angels anywhere close to signing a free agent despite the fact that ace John Lackey, Ervin Santana, Dustin Moseley and Kelvim Escobar are on the DL. The Angels also are still recovering from the death of starter Nick Adenhart, who opened the season in the rotation, in a tragic traffic accident two weeks ago.

"There is nothing imminent," Reagins said when asked if there are plans to go outside the organization for help. "We're confident in the players we have in house. I want to be clear on that.

"Right now, we're not playing as good as we can. We can play much better. We're trying to re-set our bullpen. Our starting pitching has been fine.

"We're 13 games in. We're not pushing any panic buttons. We have some talented players. We're very confident."

The Angels gave a spot start to reliever Darren Oliver on Saturday in Minnesota. But manager Mike Scioscia said before Wednesday's game against Detroit that Oliver was "still a little stiff" from that start and that the club did not want to push him any harder with another start.

Besides, despite so many starting pitchers out, the Angels cannot afford to dip into their bullpen for spot starters because they need all hands on deck there. Los Angeles' 7.85 bullpen ERA is the worst in baseball.

As for Palmer, who will face the Tigers' Edwin Jackson at Angels Stadium on Thursday, the Angels signed him in January as a minor-league free agent from the Giants' organization.

Originally selected by San Francisco in the 31st round of the 2002 draft, Palmer has three big league starts on his resume, all last year. He went 0-2 with an 8.53 ERA for the Giants in 2008. In 12 2/3 innings, opponents batted .333 against Palmer last year. He walked 13 and struck out three.




Since: Jul 2, 2007
Posted on: April 23, 2009 5:46 pm

Angels: No go on Pedro

For the amount of money Pedro is asking for (around 5-8 million guaranateed) he is not going to have many if any suitors, unless

1) He can come down from his financial demands

2) Teams get desparate

Since it's only April roughly 15 games in, teams aren't desperate yet, nor should they be. The Angels play in a weak division and are scheduled to get most of their pitchers back in 2 weeks to a month, so it's probably not worth it signing a guy who is probably going to need two weeks to get ready anyway.

If one of Kelvin Escobar, Ervin Santana, or John Lackey suffers a major setback in their rehab then it will probably be worth looking into, but right now I think the Angels are fine and they are still my pick to win the division.

Since: Apr 21, 2009
Posted on: April 23, 2009 5:14 pm

Angels: No go on Pedro

Forget the Angels, it looks like the Mets should have resigned Pedro after all.....

Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: April 23, 2009 3:25 pm

Angels: No go on Pedro

 u are normally an angels fan? but u are giving up? haha that is the stupidest thing ive ever heard... i hope u dont have kids... god forbid what they are learning from you... you know what son it just doesnt look good right now better just give up! 


Since: Sep 5, 2008
Posted on: April 23, 2009 11:49 am

Angels: No go on Pedro

Stick with the players you ahve and use your farm system, that is what it's for.  Getting a high priced Martinez for the few good starts he'll provide won't help anything.  They are in a weak division to start with, if one of the other teams make a break out in the beginning of the year the ANgels are talented enough to run them down the last third of the year.  Don't even think of getting another pitcher. 

Since: Sep 5, 2008
Posted on: April 23, 2009 11:45 am

Angels: No go on Pedro

He'll produce one, maybe two good starts, then will be on the disabled list.  His high cost wouldn't be worth it for a part time fix.  They are in teh weak division.  Wait out the pitchers, there is plenty of time to catch any early run away.  Down the stretch they will be better off if they stick with the home grown boys and NOT go out and get a "quick fix" highpriced figure. 

Since: Apr 14, 2008
Posted on: April 23, 2009 10:29 am

Angels: No go on Pedro

I'm normally an Angels fan, but I'm on the edge of giving up.  They have lost an entire pitching staff at this point.  It isn't one, or two starters out, it is 5 (Lackey, Escobar, Adenhardt, Mosely,  Santana).  This is obscene.  I know injuries can hurt, but they are playing with their triple A pitchers against all bigs.  Even in a weak west, that isn't going to get it done.

If Boston were to get down to only 2 or 3 quality starters, they would be in the market and get a bat.  When the wanted Manny out, they found a completely reliable replacement for him.  The Angels have screwed up most their signings, with Vlad being the only one that has really came through.  The others (Matthews mainly, but Escobar, Garland as well, Rivera) have not produced at the money.  They have a bunch of nice players, but not a lot of must have guys.

If you put this team in a real division, they get killed.  It is only due to the Rangers and A's that the Angels stay afloat.


Since: Dec 14, 2007
Posted on: April 23, 2009 10:02 am

Angels: No go on Pedro

He was throwing 90 in the wbc.  Go ahead angels rely on the young players.  Theres always next year.  genius! 

Since: Oct 2, 2008
Posted on: April 23, 2009 7:59 am

Angels: No go on Pedro

I have to agree, Pedro doesn't want 5th starter money, he wants the ace $. Basically, by signing him, you'll get a 5 inning, soft tossing, all about me player. I say ride the youth all the way. Even at this early junction of the season, the Halos are only 3.5 back, considerding we're only in month numero uno, things will be okay.

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: April 23, 2009 7:14 am

Angels: No go on Pedro

I just do not see the Angels signing Pedro. He throws the ball about 85 mph, pitches about 5 innings and is hurt half of the time. I am not sure what type of clubhouse leader that he is since the Mets never had any leaders on their team. I expect the Angels to be ok until first Lackey then the rest of the hurt players come back.  If Santana is ok, then the Angels will win by 10 games again in the weak weak West. 


Since: May 22, 2007
Posted on: April 23, 2009 6:45 am

Angels: No go on Pedro

Well, I don't know about Paul Byrd or Mark Mulder, but Pedro Martinez is certainly worth a look. What's the worst that can happen? He doesn't work out and that's the end of it...have to agree the Angels are not being smart about this. I can see if they only lost 1 guy, but to be down 4 starting pitchers and bring up all these guys from AAA.

The only thing I can think of is that maybe Pedro wants too much money, or they think they can hang on in their division until all their pitchers return. I know the Rangers and Athletics don't seem to be a threat, but the Mariners have a pretty decent ball club, right now.  

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