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Farewell to the classy Mr. Glavine

Posted on: June 3, 2009 6:45 pm
Edited on: June 3, 2009 9:02 pm

And so it ends not with a bang, but with a whimper for Atlanta icon Tom Glavine.

Six scoreless innings in a minor-league injury-rehabilitation start Tuesday night, his velocity back up into the low-to-mid-80s and, poof. Released.

John Smoltz and now Glavine in the same year.

Thanks for the memories, fellas.

Business is cold, and the game moves on, and that's life.  What rudely interrupted Glavine's homecoming in Atlanta is the fact the Braves' offense remains sluggish and the rotation has come together very well. Probably better than they hoped, given the progress of rookie Kris Medlen and given the fact that phenom Tommy Hanson is waiting in the wings.

The Braves' staff ERA of 4.08 ranks tied for fifth in the National League. Jair Jurrjens, having an All-Star season, currently ranks sixth in the NL with a 2.59 ERA. Javier Vazquez ranks third in the NL with 86 strikeouts. Derek Lowe has six wins. Kenshin Kawakami looks like he can help. Medlen held Arizona to one run over six innings in Atlanta's 9-3 win Sunday.

This isn't to say that Atlanta's pitching is flawless. But it's been pretty darned good. And when Hanson arrives, it'll be better.

There simply is no longer room in Atlanta for a 43-year-old, rehabbing lefty who, by his own admission, is well past his peak. Especially given what the Braves really need, and now we'll see whether Nate McLouth, the speedy outfielder acquired from Pittsburgh can give it to them.

Sad, given that there is nobody more classy than Glavine in the game. But true.

If he wants to hang around, there are plenty of clubs looking for pitching. Philadelphia, the New York Mets (look out for the cab rides, Tommy!), the Chicago White Sox. ...

And if he doesn't, well, think about this: Now he and Greg Maddux will be in the same Hall of Fame class, eligible for induction together.

That would be pretty cool.


Since: Aug 2, 2007
Posted on: June 13, 2009 1:09 am

Farewell to the classy Mr. Glavine

Being a teenager in the 90'S I will always remember being mesmerized by Tom Glavine he will always be one of the best pitchers 2 ever play the game in my book.

The dominance of Atlantas 3 statrers Maddux Smoltz and Glavine would give any team nightmares.

I do still think he has another year in his arm at least 2 be a 4th or 5th starter and I wish him well.

Glavine has always been a class act just like Maddux and Smoltz and I am happy I had the pleasure 2 watch those guys in their prime.

Good luck Tom and Thanks 4 all the great memories.

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: June 4, 2009 11:16 am

Farewell to the classy Mr. Glavine

swiftbosox - I agree with you that the player reps need to be held accountable for their roles in the labor disputes.  Not only for the 1994 debacle, but for the stonewalling on PED's.  They did not stand up to Don Fehr when it counted.  A lot of them seem to take the "dumb jock" mode when it comes to that matter, but Tom Glavine - pretty intelligent guy from what I can see - is not one who has that excuse.

Since: Feb 18, 2008
Posted on: June 4, 2009 9:21 am

Farewell to the classy Mr. Glavine

I wil admit that the sudden release of Glavine stings a lot, but as you have pointed out there really was no place for Tommy in the Braves rotation.  hanson has more than proved he is ready, and with Tim Hudson now looking more and more likely for August all Tommy would have done is fill a rotation spot that Hanson will fill with much better results.

Thank you Tommy for all the years of greatness, but it is time to walk away.  I know the taste in your mouth is bitter at the moment, but please reconsider the Braves offer to hold a retirement ceremony.  Don't tarnish your image by getting knocked around in a few futile starts for another club.  You pitched back to back shut outs in your rehab starts and can walk away with your head held high, not with your tail between your legs.

Since: Jul 23, 2007
Posted on: June 4, 2009 8:40 am

An Un-Maddux Ending

The 2007 season-ending shellacking Tommy G endured at Shea against the essentially ended his career. He tried to endure and extinguish that lasting memory. It didn't work, although he managed to squeeze out a few more millions out of the . It is unfortunate that they wasted their time. He certainly didn't have any hesitation signing with the in 2003 and thumbing his nose to Atlanta.305 wins.203 losses.3.54ERA...12 post seasons! First Ballot Hall of Famer, no doubt!.........but. A big but : Maddux had a classy way about him besides being a superior pitcher, hitter and fielder. Glavine, it seems to me is a creep...not a Barry Bonds sort of a creep but a self absorbed creep none the less. He won't be the Brett Favre "drama queen" when he hangs it up, but I hope, please, he just goes away quietly.

My lasting memory of Glavine is: (NL rep) 1994 and his arrogant self righteous attack on Dec. 14, 1994 – in the negotiations with federal mediator Bill Usery . The World Series has survived World Wars, the Great Depression, and racial riots, but could not survive the greed of Executive Director Donald Fehr and the MLPA. Glavine's snide remarks and stance during this time played an integral part in depriving the fans from having a World Series in 1994.  Some things will never leave fans memories, and Glavine's success will forever be coupled with his role in wiping out the 1994 World Series. He has earned both memories.

Since: Aug 23, 2006
Posted on: June 4, 2009 12:57 am

Farewell to the classy Mr. Glavine

First of all, you have to let go of the "nothing left to prove" aphorism. Once you have nothing left to prove, you are DEAD.

I think that you meant to say that there is no shame in either Glavine or Smoltz walking away, heads held high, rather than risk tarnishing their respective legacies at this point. And that is true; however, the Red Sox front office, arguably one of the most astute in the game, has determined that John Smoltz has value. Whether they are correct is uncertain, but the fact that they have invested time and (probably more importantly) money tells me that John Smoltz is not "done."  You do, however, have first rights to figuratively spit on Mr. Smoltz if in fact his tenure in Boston is fraught with disappointment; I suspect you will not have the opportunity to do so.

Glavine is another matter. At this point, I am ashamed of Frank Wren, who could have cut ties with Glavine in spring training, and in retrospect should have done so. The insult to Braves fans and to Glavine is palpable. I don't think John Schuerholz would have handled manners this poorly.  Now Wren may be right, in that Glavine is not going to be as effective as Tommy Hanson. My reaction today is one of disgust, simply because Glavine did everything right, strictly in line with what the club wanted, only to be jettisoned in this manner because the pitching has been better than expected (Kawakami/Vazquez/Jurrjens/Lowe were all unknown quantities at the start of the season). Moreso, and if I am wrong I am certain I will be corrected, but waiting until June 1 on Hanson is another "Super 2/arbitration" cost-cutting move; once it got to May 10th or so, and the four above-mentioned starters were effectively pitching, wouldn't have been appropriate to cut ties with Glavine then, rather than waiting another 3 weeks? Yeah, Frank Wren is an ass hole.

So you have a 40+ lefty pitching in the mid-80s, healthy and stretched out to pitch in the majors. This isn't Steve Carlton desperately trying to prolong a career by embarrasing himself in Chicago and Minnesota, yet. This could be a guy who can mentor a young staff (Milwaukee, anyone?), eat some innings and play one more season after doing all the work to get himself ready to do so. Given some of the marginal talent at the bottom of several rotations, he should get a shot at the very least, and then retire on his own terms.

Since: Feb 9, 2007
Posted on: June 4, 2009 12:45 am

Farewell to the classy Mr. Glavine

I remember watching Nolan Ryan pitch well into his 40's and still be effective, but that guy was still throwing some pretty good heat. According to this article, Glavine had gotten his velocity "back up" to the mid-80's. I'm not saying you have to throw darts to win in the majors (look at Jamie Moyer), but I just don't think the Braves were ready to pay $1 million to add Glavine to their major league roster, and then possibly have to drop him if he couldn't pitch at that level. They have a younger arm (Hanson) in the system, and it makes sense to bring him up and see if they can't still salvage this season. With the additional offense they will get from McLouth that they just picked up from the Pirates, if Hanson can win some games, the Braves still have a good shot to win their division. Having said that, I would not be surprised to see Glavine picked up by another team willing to take the risk.

Since: Feb 11, 2009
Posted on: June 4, 2009 12:29 am

Farewell to the classy Mr. Glavine

Thank you Mr. Glavine for a great career. Chicks dig the long ball!!!

Since: Oct 21, 2006
Posted on: June 4, 2009 12:11 am

Farewell to the classy Mr. Glavine

I don't think that he has nothing left in his tank. 15-7 and 13-11 are decent numbers for guys half his age. If we were talking about a 25 year old here we wouldn't say he has nothing left, we would say he needs to live up to his potential or something like that just because he is as old as he is doesn't mean he can't still pitch. Does the name Nolan Ryan ring a bell? He threw a no hitter in his late thirties early 40's

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: June 4, 2009 12:01 am

Farewell to the classy Mr. Glavine

He should have just retired. Him and Smoltz both are done and need to just let it go. They have nothing left to prove and nothing left in the take. Great careers by both guys, but just let it go already. Walk away from the game with some dignity already.

Since: Dec 26, 2006
Posted on: June 3, 2009 10:28 pm

Farewell to the classy Mr. Glavine

Had some great years. He left a few years ago, and it was business. It's just business now. He's no longer needed. Great Hall of Fame Pitcher, but, like many ball players, he's been way overpaid. Can't blame Tom. It's free enterprise. But....
The golden era of fans footing the bill for athletes and entertainers should take at least a small downward spiral.

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