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Beltre agrees to deal with Red Sox

Posted on: January 4, 2010 8:09 pm
Edited on: January 4, 2010 9:15 pm
 

The Red Sox are on the verge of adding a new third baseman, agreeing to the framework of a one-year deal with Adrian Beltre for roughly $9 million, CBSSports.com has confirmed.

The deal, contingent on Beltre passing a physical examination and with a vesting option for a second year that is believed to be worth $5 million, is another move toward general manager Theo Epstein's goal of improving Boston's defense without taking away from run production. Beltre is a two-time Gold Glove winner who batted .265 with eight homers and 44 RBI last season in Seattle.

Boston clearly was headed in a different direction at third base for 2010, and the failed Mike Lowell trade to Texas didn't deter the Sox.

At 30, Beltre is five years younger than Lowell. And though Beltre long since has lost his 48-homer power (his career-high came in 2004, his last season with the Dodgers), the thinking is his offensive numbers should improve in Fenway Park as opposed to Seattle's pitcher-friendly Safeco Field. Until he was slowed by a groin injury that limited him to 111 games last summer, Beltre had hit 25, 26 and 25 home runs over the previous three seasons.

Spring training in Fort Myers could be awkward if the Red Sox are unable to trade Lowell before he theoretically proves this spring that his surgically repaired thumb is healthy. The trade with Texas -- which still could be renewed -- was nixed by the Rangers when physicians determined that Lowell was in need of surgery.

Lowell underwent thumb surgery last week, and recovery time is expected to be six-to-eight weeks. It is still expected that the Red Sox will trade him, it's just a question of whether it happens before or during spring training.

Comments

Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: January 5, 2010 10:35 pm
 

Beltre agrees to deal with Red Sox

Fair enough, Monnguse. Thanks for your sensible post. You're right about the Sox home grown guys being younger than the Yankee home grown guys, for the most part, although I disagree with your assessment of Hughes, who was a big force in the bullpen in the second half the of the season for the Yanks as the set-up man for Mo (comparable to Delcarmen), although his arm was tired by the time they reached the postseason. And while middle relief doesn't share the same stage as everyday players like Ellsbury or Cano, for example, guys like Coke played a pretty vital role for the Yankees last year (comparable to Lowrie). Indeed, the difference in age and experience between guys like Posada, Jeter and Rivera account for a significant part of the payroll disparity between the two teams, since the Sox home grown stars are still young and haven't yet had their big paydays. And, of course, you're right not to include guys like Matsui, Dice-K and Okajima because they were, in effect, free agents and spent no time in the minor league systems of the teams. I was simply responding to the post stating that the two teams weren't even close in terms of home grown guys on the team when, in fact, in pure numbers, more of the Yankee roster was home grown than the Sox roster when you factor in the bullpen guys. I wasn't speaking as to quality of one versus the other, but the poster made it sound like the Sox were mostly home grown and the Yankees were all bought, which just wasn't the case.



Since: Jan 5, 2010
Posted on: January 5, 2010 8:50 pm
 

Beltre deal w/ Red Sox - Salary CAP for MLB

You guys are just now complaining about not having a salary CAP in MLB? Are you kidding me? 27 World Championships by the Yankees and your just now saying it? I have been saying it since the mid 90's. I am a REDSOX fan. Do you think that George Steinbrenner was good for baseball? He is the person that ruined baseball. Then the Commissioner did nothing. Then the strikes. Then the signing of A-ROD and so on...

Your just NOW saying that there needs to be a salary CAP?

What does it take for you to stand up and shout?

Where have you been?

NOW THE REAL QUESTION IS... WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT????????????????




Since: Jan 5, 2010
Posted on: January 5, 2010 6:20 pm
 

Beltre agrees to deal with Red Sox

I agree with most of what you said. With one exception. The courts would not and could not throw out a salary cap, because it is NOT an open system. Thought it is part of our great system of free enterprise it is more like a closed club. You can play by our rules or you can go play some place else. Bassball will never have a salary cap because it would cost the big wigs to much money.

Pats for the Win.



RLTW



Since: Jul 2, 2007
Posted on: January 5, 2010 5:19 pm
 

Beltre agrees to deal with Red Sox

It's not even close? Ummm ... you're quite wrong. It's almost exactly the same. In fact, the Yanks had a few more than the Sox. How many home grown guys did the Sox have in their normal lineup (and starting staff and bullpen and bench) last year and how many did the Yanks have? Since your premise is so flawed, please show your work.

Merger Boy, I'm going to take a stab at this from a Red Sox perspective.  It is an under appreciated fact that out of the 25 man roster for the Yankees, they have a higher percentage of home grown players than anyone else.  That's a fact and i'll give it to you.  That having been said for the most part the homegrown talent is older guys (Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada, and Andy Pettite) the younger guys who are homegrown are for the most part disappointments (Phil Hughes), bit players, and enigmas (Joba Chamberlain).  I will give you Robinson Cano and Melky Cabrera as solid young starters, and Joba obviously has some skills, but he is not without his issues at this point.

Now take a look at the Red Sox, In the older player category they only have Jason Varitek.  Foryoung players you have the  Bit players where you have Manny Delcarmen and Jed Lowrie.  In the enigmas category i'll put Clay Bucholtz and Daniel Bard, Bucholtz because of his past difficulties and Bard because he hasn't proven he can perform consistently.  The big difference is in the solid starters category.  There the Red Sox have the young talent of Jon Lester, Jonathan Papelbon, Jacoby Ellsbury, Kevin Youkilis, Dustin Pedroia.  Those guys are undeniably solid starters who all bring a lot to this team.  Pedroia was rookie of the year and then MVP the next year.  I'll grant you that the Yankees have homegrown stars in Jeter, Rivera, Posada, and Petitte, but when it comes to young stars the Sox destroy the yankees. 

Now granted I know a lot more about the Sox farm system and players than the yankee's so i'd welcome you input, but that's my attempt at throwing myself in that discussion.  Please note I did not include every yankees homegrown player.  I also did not include Hideki Matsu, Diasuke Matsuzaka, or Hideki Okajima because I consider them more of free agent aquisitions.



Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: January 5, 2010 4:55 pm
 

Beltre agrees to deal with Red Sox

Huh?  How is this anything like adding CC, AJ, and Tex?  The Yanks far outspend everybody including the Sox.  The Sox aren't even second in spending.



Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: January 5, 2010 4:54 pm
 

Beltre agrees to deal with Red Sox

I do not care how the yankees spend there money, they earn it, they can spend it how they want. I know that every year the Yankees will enter the year with an advantage over the Red Sox but I also know that the Red Sox will enter the year with an advantage over most everyone else.

I would be pissed if the Red Sox did not do everything they could to compete every year. All those people complaining that the Red Sox spend too much what would you have them do cut there payroll and just accept that they can only finish second, i do not think the Red sox would keep making money if they took that attitude. Even  with the difference in Payroll now it is tough to compete with the Yankees.

The Red Sox started making alot more money because they competed and now  the owners would like to continue making so they can also try and compete with the Yankees in the Future.
Well said, Patriot. Can't fault the Sox for investing in their team to compete and win. That's what every fan should want and expect from their team. I doubt that MLB will ever adopt a hard salary cap, but if they do, it should be coupled with a salary floor to ensure that they get rid of some of the cheap owners who are taking luxury tax dollars and pocketing them instead of spending them to improve their team.



Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: January 5, 2010 4:43 pm
 

Beltre agrees to deal with Red Sox

Yes the Red Sox have the $$ to do more than most teams...with the exception of the Yankees, but how many homegrown players do the Yankees have as opposed to the Red Sox? It's not even close. The Red Sox spend money AND develop players for their roster OR to trade. The Yankees simply overpay when they need to, and even when they don't need to.

It's not even close? Ummm ... you're quite wrong. It's almost exactly the same. In fact, the Yanks had a few more than the Sox. How many home grown guys did the Sox have in their normal lineup (and starting staff and bullpen and bench) last year and how many did the Yanks have? Since your premise is so flawed, please show your work.



Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: January 5, 2010 2:36 pm
 

Beltre agrees to deal with Red Sox

Mike Lowell is 10 times better then this joke, but I guess as a yankee fan, I want them to start Beltre



Since: Jul 27, 2008
Posted on: January 5, 2010 2:04 pm
 

Beltre agrees to deal with Red Sox

$9 million dollars for Adrian Beltre? What are the Red Sox thinking? This guy is a bum.



Since: Jun 5, 2009
Posted on: January 5, 2010 2:02 pm
 

Beltre agrees to deal with Red Sox

I'm a huge Sox fan, but what the heck are they doing this offseason?  This team is going to be challenged offensively......When the GM says we were looking to upgrade defense and pitching what that really means is we couldn't find good enough offensive players and we got these chumps to fill our holes


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