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Oakland's Sheets re-injures troubled elbow

Posted on: July 24, 2010 1:56 pm
Edited on: July 24, 2010 2:11 pm

The July trade market -- or, at the very least, Oakland's season -- has changed significantly: Athletics right-hander Ben Sheets has re-injured his troubled elbow, has learned.

At the very least, Sheets will be placed on the 15-day disabled list. But a source close to Sheets says there is very real concern that the elbow has blown out again and that he is finished for the season.

The Athletics signed Sheets to a one-year, $10 million deal this season figuring that he either could help them contend in the AL West or, if not, he could become a valuable trade chip.

While the A's are in third place in the AL West at 48-48, currently 8 1/2 games behind first-place Texas, chatter around a Sheets trade has been increasing in recent starts.

Several scouts, notably from the Tigers and Phillies, have been in attendance at Sheets' recent outings. Though Sheets, who missed all of 2009 following elbow surgery, has not recaptured his one-time ace stuff from his Milwaukee days, he's been intriguing enough to allow contenders to imagine him helping them.

One scout who watched Sheets warm up in the bullpen before Monday's start said Sheets threw very few warm-up pitches. And scouts who have watched him recently say he has been very reluctant to throw his breaking pitches in games.

Over 20 starts in 2010, Sheets is 4-9 with a 4.53 ERA. He's worked 119 1/3 innings in 2010 and last started on Monday evening against Boston, going 6 2/3 innings and allowing the Red Sox two runs and seven hits, striking out two and walking two.

"He had no velocity but he adds and subtracts," one scout who was in attendance to see Sheets on Monday told's Danny Knobler. "He threw only five pitches over 90 [m.p.h]. He was pitching at 86-88.

"He still competes, though. You know what he is? Right now, he's Freddy Garcia."

And, sadly, right now, he's not even that.


Since: Jul 25, 2010
Posted on: July 25, 2010 9:19 am

Oakland's Sheets re-injures troubled elbow

Hilarious, Signed the guy for trade bait, now stuck with a guy who made 10 mil.

Since: Oct 30, 2006
Posted on: July 25, 2010 8:03 am

Oakland's Sheets re-injures troubled elbow

I wasn't surprised to see the A's go for Sheets, but the 10 million for a year deal blew me away. Being a Brewer fan, I've seen this act too many times to be surprised.  He's been fragile for years and I thought he'd go for a couple million until he could prove he was healthy again. The Brewers made the same blunder with Eric Gagne. The upside is that it's off the books after a year but that's a lot of coin for a huge question mark. Hope the A's can weather the loss, it's not like Ben was showing ace stuff to begin with..

Since: Jan 21, 2007
Posted on: July 25, 2010 7:40 am

Oakland's Sheets re-injures troubled elbow

This signing of Ben Sheets was bad from the start before it got worst. Now it's time to dump Eric Chavez and his contract.

Since: May 24, 2010
Posted on: July 25, 2010 3:16 am

Billy Beane...

Though it is hindsight on the Ben Sheets signing now, the comments on this story are as expected because no one who follows the game is surprised at this news.

There are just certain guys in MLB, the NBA and the NFL that you know are going down with an injury at some point during a season.

That being said has Billy Beane made a good trade in the last 5-10 years or has he signed a veteran in the past 5-10 years that has even panned out in production or bringing prospects in a trade?

I was thinking about this the other day and recently obviously you have Sheets and Coco Crisp but I was thinking that I know the Frank Thomas thing worked good for a year the first time they got him in 2006 and in 2008 when they got him back it was a little less successful but still decent relative to Crisp and Sheets.

One trade comes to mind and that was getting Brett Anderson, Chris Carter, Greg Smith and Carlos Gonzalez from Arizona for Dan Haren which would sound even better if he didn't turn Carlos Gonzalez, Huston Street and Smith into Matt Holliday which he then turned into Brett Wallace and a couple other guys which then turned into Wallace for Michael Taylor in the Roy Halladay deal so Haren netted Brett Anderson and Michael Taylor plus a couple others so that was not to bad if you really consider he turned Dan Haren, Carlos Gonzalez and Huston Street into Anderson and Taylor then I think it is pretty lopsided at this point as Gonzalez sure has turned into a really good player.

Tim Hudson back in the day was turned into Charles Thomas, Juan Cruz and Dan Meyer, nice work BB!

These are just a couple examples, oh, I forgot, Mike Piazza and Nomar were on the roster at some point as well.  I am sure A's fans can name a few more in addition to these but am I missing any good deals he has worked in the last decade?

It is easy to point out the failures and there are way more than this but the point it, Moneyball seems to have run its course as a fad because for a book being written about it, why can't this guy draft, sign or trade for anyone that can actually hit and produce as that is the premise of moneyball right.  It is about finding under valued guys to produce better than expected for what they are paid so I offer that he has lost his touch and the A's need to fire him.  I think in team sports most GM's or those making the personnel decisions have their philosophies but there comes a point where the window on success closes for most and they need to be let go and retire or they need a fresh start and a new perspective.

It is hard to win for a decade or two in a row without a lull and when you have that lull and no titles to your name then it is time to get someone new in there with new ideas.

That being said, Oakland has a good young staff but Beane just keeps striking out with his attempts at finding moneyball hitters.

Are you telling me Michael Taylor couldn't hit better than .240 like Coco is which is a huge jump from his robust .228 last year.  Or are you telling me there in no one in their farm system that can produce better than this guy.  Oh, sorry, I just checked his stats, he is down to .235.

You guys/gals get the point though, I think Beane needs to be let go after so many failures in a row.  Trades and signing are always a hindsight thing but when your team never seems to make a good move then you need better people in there from BB on down.

I guess it is too bad for them they didn't sign Freddy Garcia for the $1 million he is getting from the White Sox instead of signing Ben Sheets.

The thing I don't get, though it is hindsight is why would you not trade him in June like one poster said?  He is probably the worst pitcher on your staff and the article says teams like the Phillies and Tigers were looking at him so why not?  What, is he better than Vin Mazzarro, Dallas Braden, Gio Gonzalez, Trevor Cahill or Brett Anderson when healthy and what, the A's were going to miss him this year on their way to another 72-78 win season? 

And Ben, if you are reading this don't get to mad and throw your laptop, wouldn't want you to blow out your one good elbow, you will need it to keep signing and cashing those large checks from the A's for the rest of the season!

Next year BB should go after Kerry Wood and maybe talk Ken Griffey Jr. out of retirement since he injures quite nicely each year.

Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: July 25, 2010 2:34 am

Oakland's Sheets re-injures troubled elbow

Ya gotta feel for the guy.  Just like Kerry Wood, Erik Bedard he just cant seem to stay healthy.  Im not sure how much he would have netted for Oakland but hes strong competitor and I hope he regains his form someday.

Since: Jul 24, 2010
Posted on: July 24, 2010 7:46 pm
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Since: Feb 9, 2007
Posted on: July 24, 2010 6:59 pm

Oakland's Sheets re-injures troubled elbow

Can we now say this was a mistake by Billy Beane?  When he signed Ben Sheets I thought it was a huge risk but one that the Athletics could possibly make but it appears that is was a mistake so far.  Guess I need to add yet another player to the DL on my Fantasy Team Undecided

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: July 24, 2010 6:59 pm

Oakland's Sheets re-injures troubled elbow

BrewRock, I love your avatar.  Just like the Brewers, those guys are washed up and haven't been relevant since the '80s.

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: July 24, 2010 6:57 pm

Oakland's Sheets re-injures troubled elbow

I wonder where all those A's fans are that defended this signing.

Since: Mar 29, 2008
Posted on: July 24, 2010 3:34 pm

Oakland's Sheets re-injures troubled elbow

So,, about a month ago there was  a headline about Ben Sheets winning and striking out like 8.  My comments at the time were something along the line this really a story, he is going to get everyone's hopes up and the phantom injuries will begin again. Thank god the Brewers didn't want him back, he stinks worse than last weeks garbage and is worth about as much when he keeps being the "oft"-injured Sheets.

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