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The Jones-Cox Show comes to premature end

Posted on: August 12, 2010 5:47 pm
Edited on: August 12, 2010 8:21 pm

It is one of the great modern manager-player runs going, Chipper Jones and Bobby Cox, together in Atlanta, 17 seasons strong.

Now, with news that Jones has blown out his left knee and is finished for the season, the Braves' last gasp under the retiring Cox is guaranteed to have a bittersweet ending no matter how it finishes.

Jones' wrecked knee wrecks Atlanta's playoff hopes? Awww.

Braves overcome Jones injury to make the playoffs while Jones forced to watch? Awww.

Braves win World Series to send Cox out with another ring while Jones helpless to help? Awww.

Sentimental as some stories become, the game has a way of stripping sentiment in favor of cold reality, and that's what the Braves are dealing with now. Fighting for their lives to fend off two-time NL champion Philadelphia -- dealing with a significant injury of its own with Chase Utley sidelined -- life now becomes much more difficult for the Braves.

Jones, 38, was hitting .265 with 10 homers and 46 RBI in 95 games with the Braves this season, but that doesn't tell the whole story. Struggling so badly earlier this year that he spoke of retiring at season's end, Jones over his past 11 games was hitting .368 with three homers, five RBI and eight runs scored.

Short-term, Jones' loss vastly increases the degree of difficulty for the Braves, who now will plug Omar Infante and Brooks Conrad into third base in place of Jones while searching the waiver wires for a spare-part match.

Long-term, this injury means we very well might have seen the last of Jones. If he does decide to retire -- a very real possibility, given the normal six-month recovery from this type of injury and his advanced age -- the next time Jones' name comes up in earnest in baseball circles very well might be in Hall of Fame discussions.

He's not a slam-dunk first-ballot guy, but his 436 career homers (37th all-time), 1,491 RBI (52nd all-time) and .941 OPS (30th all-time) certainly put the six-time All-Star -- and 1999 NL MVP -- onto the front porch of Cooperstown.

It's just a shame that if the Braves do make the playoffs this fall, Jones won't be at Cox's side as a couple of Atlanta icons swinging for one more shot at glory.

Likes: Tell you what, glad there were no serious injuries in the Cardinals-Reds brawl, and this might not be the most mature or politically correct reaction, but I love the emotions that were injected into that rivalry this week. Baseball, in the free agent era, has gone corporate and too many players are way too friendly with each other. The result is, it takes the edge off of too many rivalries. No worry about that down the stretch in St. Louis and Cincinnati now. ... The Kids Are All Right. Great cast, great acting. Next up: The Other Guys. Gotta see Derek Jeter's acting debut. And I hear WIll Ferrell is actually funny again. ... Finally catching up with Pat Conroy's Beach Music, a long ago best seller, and man Conroy can write. Enjoying the book, but the plot goes a little too far in the back half of the book in some areas. ... Wrote off Mad Men a couple of years ago, decided to give it another chance this year and I'm glad I did. Finally, belatedly, enjoying it. ... Hard to go wrong with any Apple products in my book. My iTouch went bad after just a year-and-a-half, turned out the battery malfunctioned and they replaced the entire unit with a new one. ... Look, the former drummer for the Greg Kihn Band now ... cleans carpet? It's true. But don't ask him about pet hair in the carpet.

Dislikes: The fact that Manny Ramirez is earning $20 million and can't be bothered to rehab his calf strain, or whatever he's calling it, with the Dodgers is a joke. Of course, nobody's surprised, are they, that Manny's off on his own? And the Dodgers were the suckers who gambled with him.

Rock 'N' Roll Lyric of the Day:

"You could lie on a riverbank
"Or paint your name on a water tank
"Miscount all the beers you drank
"Back where I come from
"Back where I come from
"Where I'll be when it's said and done
"Well I'm proud as anyone
"That's where I come from
"We learned in a Sunday school
"Who made the sun shine through.
"I know who made the moonshine, too
"Back where I come from.
"Blue eyes on a Saturday night
"Ttan legs in the broad daylight
"TV’s, they were black and white
"Back where I come from"

-- Mac McAnally, Back Where I Come From


Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: August 13, 2010 4:06 pm

The Jones-Cox Show comes to premature end

The phillies don't have enough pitching.

Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: August 13, 2010 4:04 pm

The Jones-Cox Show comes to premature end

The Phillies are going down. Money mouth    Bring that old azz Oswalt and the rest of that week pitching staff on dawg.

Since: Sep 15, 2006
Posted on: August 13, 2010 2:35 pm

The Jones-Cox Show comes to premature end

steroids?  really? because he got hurt?

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: August 13, 2010 1:02 pm

The Jones-Cox Show comes to premature end

I really don't see how Chipper gets left out of the Hall.  According to a thing called the Hall of Fame Monitor, created by Bill James, which awards points based on statistical achievement....Chipper scored 164.  Anyone scoring over 130 is a virtual lock unless there are extenuating circumstances (PED's, lifetime ban from the game, etc).  I don't think Chipper is going to be punished for PED's as I believe he is clean...he may have experimented (I think most players at least do that) but I don't think he used enough to benefit.  Some similarity scores on show the 10 most similar players based on a scoring system....out of the 10, half are in the Hall of Fame (Duke Snider, Billy Williams, Eddie Mathews, Jim Rice and Mickey Mantle) and the other half could have a good argument made for them (Jeff Bagwell, Larry Walker, Vlad Guerrero, Dwight Evans and Bernie Williams).

To me though, the Hall of Fame is about more than just statistics.  It is a very subjective matter.  If I were to have a vote in the process, I would look at stats obviously but I would also go with the "knee jerk" reaction.  Look at the name and before you look at anything else, I would just look at the name and ask "does he deserve to be mentioned among the top players of all time?  was he a top player in his era?  will people be talking about him for years due to how well he played?"

Chipper passes the knee jerk test (IMHO)....he passes the statistical tests.  If this is the end of his career (and most likely it is), it is a shame that he will not make 3000 hits (2490) or 500 homers (436) or 1500 RBI (1491).  It's been a great career....I hated seeing him step to the plate against the Cardinals.

Since: Apr 22, 2009
Posted on: August 13, 2010 12:52 pm

The Jones-Cox Show comes to premature end

Amen foratlanta

Since: Mar 20, 2008
Posted on: August 13, 2010 12:12 pm

The Jones-Cox Show comes to premature end

I hate to see any player have a season end like this.  I've always rooted for Chipper, but the truth is, his play this year is just average.  His leadership will be missed, but the Braves will be just fine with Prado at third when he gets back from the thumb injury.  I do get tired of seeing all these writers enlighten us with their comments on how desperate the Braves are to be holding off the oh so mighty Phillies.  Yes, the Phillies are the defending NL champs, but that was last year.  The Braves are in front and are not in any desperate situation.  I remember all of the talk at the trade deadline on just how wonderful Oswalt was and how he was surely going to lift the Phillies past the Braves.  When that trade went down, sports writers and TV analysts were all annointing the Phillies the champions with half a season to play.  Well, what has Oswalt done since joining the Phillies?  I believe he has three poor outings to my knowledge.  I have to laugh.  Dont get me wrong, the Phillies are a good team and the NL East race is going to be fun to watch.  To all those writers out there that keep insisting the Phillies are the team to beat and the Braves are a team out of the league, I will borrow a phrase from "Stripes" and say "Lighten up Francis!" and lets see how the games are played out.

Since: Aug 13, 2010
Posted on: August 13, 2010 10:42 am

The Jones-Cox Show comes to premature end

Actually, he was vying for a spot and injured his knee in 1994.  In 1995, he was runner up to Nomo for the ROY award on the Braves way to the World Series.

I'm 23 years old so basically my entire "Baseball Fan lifetime" has been spent watching the Braves and Chipper through the 90's.  In a way, watching him show signs of age and wear through the backend of his career has continued to be a tough act to watch for it only shows what life has in store for all of us.  If my childhood hero can't do the things that once was so effortless, what can a normal person like me lose the ability to do. (ok ok no so serious for I am not a professional athlete)

I guess what I am trying to say is, Chipper has always played the game RIGHT.  To the man who wrote this original post, how can you even link Chipper Jones to steroid use?!  His latest injury was the same on as in 1994.  His body must have been deteriorating then as well from the juice.  Or maybe slipping on a wet track in San Fran or severe bunions are also a byproduct.  I'm honestly insulted that you would say an outlandish comment like that.  Furthermore, please explain what a marriage has to do with baseball?

Chipper has been a model teammate and the cornerstone of this franchise for the last decade and a half.  Its not about the paychecks and endorsements.  It’s about pride and winning.  His career has been littered with decisions that have been made with the ATLANTA BRAVES as the #1 beneficiary (i.e less salary, position changes, and restructured deals). 

Ultimately, Chipper knows when time is up.  He has shown lately he is still a key component to this Atlanta Lineup.  When he feels he has nothing left and can only embarrass himself, no one will have to show him the door.  The great ones never overstay their welcome. 

Since: Aug 27, 2007
Posted on: August 13, 2010 10:35 am

The Jones-Cox Show comes to premature end

Chipper Jones contributation to Braves was not just his stats, which should definately get him into HOF, considering some names i have been hearing, but his leadership on field and in clubhouse. I have been Braves fan since 1947, and remember all the greats and all the not-so-greats. have been to both parks in Atlanta and saw Braves at Coors field in Denver. Chipper is not my alltime favprite but is definately in top 5. Philly fan cry about their injuries this year and they have had more than their share, but not have or will have as much effect as Chipper's loss to Braves. But, we have some players on team that can and will step up and try to fill the void. see you on sidelines, Chipper and enjoy future!!!LaughingGO BRAVES 

Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: August 13, 2010 9:33 am

The Jones-Cox Show comes to premature end

Just have to say something.
The mention of steroids was a disservice to a GREAT baseball player.
he played the last 6-7 seasons banged up, This guy played 3B through numerous inj, hehada taped up joint somewhere halfof most of those seasons and still hit .300 , won a batting title, hit with power. jammed wrists, oblique inj so he could only swing one way, sprained ankle, knee brace, jammed shoulder and still played . He is the old time ball player, he played not to let his team mates down. h didn't whine about inj, sit for weeks and get all healed up.
This is the guy you want on your team, the All Star that sets the example of  how to be good at your profession. The only question I would have with Chipper is , how good would he have been if he had used steroids to heal up ?
No the roids accusation was just dumb. He was one of the best 3b, switch hitters of all time. MVP, Gold Gloves,Batting Title, Silver Slugger Awards, WS ring and a big cog in the Braves domination in the NL for 12 seasons.
I have never been a Braves fan, but this guy was pure All Star baseball player and should be in the HOF.

Since: Oct 9, 2008
Posted on: August 13, 2010 9:12 am

The Jones-Cox Show comes to premature end

I'm happy that you are an avid Braves fan, but your years are wrong.  Chipper got hurt in 1994 and was the starter in 1995, which is also when they won the World Series vs. the Indians.  They also played against the Yankees in the 1996 World Series, but lost that one.  I hope Chipper recovers.  He has been my favorite player to watch for over 15 years.

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