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Blyleven on K list: "Clemens did it illegally"

Posted on: July 23, 2011 2:59 pm

COOPERSTOWN, N.Y. -- One of the big reasons I've cast an annual Hall of Fame vote for Bert Blyleven for the past decade is because, until a few years ago, the Dutchman ranked third all-time on baseball's strikeouts list and ninth all-time on shutouts.

Chew on that one for awhile. It is beyond impressive.

Anyway, while Blyleven is still ninth in shutouts, he's now fifth in strikeouts after both Roger Clemens and Randy Johnson went around him.

"I look at Johnson, Johnson did it for real," Blyleven told me when we talked recently. "Clemens did it illegally, I think. It is what it is, kind of like Hank Aaron. It's a completely different thing but, you talk about Barry Bonds, to me, Hank Aaron is still the Home Run King. And I think good baseball fans, good baseball people, know that.

"They don't need an asterisk in Cooperstown. People know."

With the piles of circumstantial evidence surrounding Clemens regarding performance-enhancing drugs, and given the trial that was aborted earlier this month and is set to resume this fall, does it anger Blyleven to see Clemens' name now ahead of his on the all-time strikeout list?

"No," Blyleven says. "He had a great career, but it was at the point where Boston was letting him go. To be honest with you, if somebody told me in '92 when I went through my shoulder surgery, if someone told me they could inject something in there to make me continue my career, I may have tried it. Who knows?

"Who knows what an individual goes through? I personally never knew of anybody, even though it was around. You could see it in Mark McGwire and Jose Canseco in the late '80s. They hit all the home runs, the Bash Brothers ... you could see they were getting bigger and stronger, but I never imagined that it could ever help me. I didn't know anything about it.

"But that's also when weights were coming in. Oakland was the first club to put a weight room in their park. We never had weights. We had little five-pound dumbbells."

Likes: The last 10 days leading up to the July 31 trade deadline are always fun, but they're also so out of control. The ratio of bad rumors to stuff that really will happen is somewhere around 50 to 1. And I may be badly underestimating that. ... Hot summer days, but the 100-degree temperatures blanketing the country are out of control. Drink plenty of water, and stay safe.

Dislikes: Border's Books closing for good. I remember spending hours on Saturday afternoons at the original Border's location in Ann Arbor with my family. One of my mom and dad's favorite things to do back in the 1970s, and what a magical place it was. Books everywhere, from floor to ceiling.



Since: Oct 11, 2007
Posted on: July 24, 2011 4:17 pm

Blyleven on K list: "Clemens did it illegally"

 pot doesn't give you a performance advantage unless your in a pie eating competition.

Since: Dec 1, 2006
Posted on: July 24, 2011 4:12 pm

Blyleven on K list: "Clemens did it illegally"

6 replies??  what a doofus.  Clemens is a butthole

Since: Sep 16, 2006
Posted on: July 24, 2011 3:54 pm

Blyleven on K list: "Clemens did it illegally"

Bert does belong in the hall btw, he has stats better than quite a few that are allreay there, heck just the fact he played 23 years gives credabilty to look at him for the HOF. His other stats just solidify his qualifications. BUT, there is no call for Bert to be talkin trash about any player, that puts him closer to a Canseco than a HOF member.

Since: Sep 16, 2006
Posted on: July 24, 2011 3:50 pm

Blyleven on K list: "Clemens did it illegally"

uradufuss .... I agree totally Rose has a place in the HOF.  This HOF is not just for MLB players. This HOF is for all baseball and just because he violated a rule of MLB does not mean he violated a rule of baseball in general.

Since: Sep 16, 2006
Posted on: July 24, 2011 3:46 pm

Blyleven on K list: "Clemens did it illegally"

Avengers, ya might as well let it sink in, She was found not guilty, people decided she was guilty just as so many have in Clemens case, and the jury did the right thing and found her Not Guilty.  But lets please remember this is a sports site and keep garbage like that for you Nancy Grace blogs instead of CBS Sportsline.  Thanks

Since: Nov 25, 2007
Posted on: July 24, 2011 3:43 pm

Back to the Pete Rose thing...

Rose: That is one guy who needs to be in the hall.  I still can't understand how you can wipe-out a players career for something that he did as a manager?  That's nuts.  I never liked the guy, but that doesn't matter; he still belongs there, as a player.

Since: Sep 27, 2006
Posted on: July 24, 2011 3:38 pm

Blyleven on K list: "Clemens did it illegally"

>>>OMG Bert, this is a he said he said thing, no one has proven Roger did anything, your innocent untill proven guilty in the USA.

Tell that to Casey Anthony.

Since: Sep 16, 2006
Posted on: July 24, 2011 3:25 pm

Blyleven on K list: "Clemens did it illegally"

Hey Bert ya ever smoke a joint? Just as illegal as steriods. Hey Bert, ya ever take any white crosses or some crystal to keep ya going?  Hey Bert since ya running ya mouth about illegal stuff I am havin a friend investigate you alot closer, he really does not need much pushing he wants fame for something and all I gotta do is push him in the right direction.

Since: Sep 16, 2006
Posted on: July 24, 2011 3:21 pm

Blyleven on K list: "Clemens did it illegally"

OMG Bert, this is a he said he said thing, no one has proven Roger did anything, your innocent untill proven guilty in the USA. From what I have seen and read about all of this if I was on a jury Roger would walk out not guilty of steriod use, Thats IF he was being tried for steriod use.  As for the case the Gov is bringing against him, I doubt this goes anywhere, I would find him not guilty in it too. I am sorry but anyone who would keep syringes and cotten for 7 years had plenty of time and ways to fabricate whatever they wanted. Its not like it can be proven that the syringe and cotton were even really ever used on Clemens, McNamee had plent of access to his DNA and blood tot aint the evidence. He is scum, a known rapist, and could easily have fabricated the whole thing, remember he is also a known and admitted liar.  I find it strange that the only "evidence" he kept was Clemens, why not all the other players too? How about because he knew Clemens had the money he would try to extort from him. He never expected Clemens to tell him to go to hell, he expected to get payed.  And think about it, his azz was in a sling, he was going to be headed to prison for many years if he did not give the mitchell people exactly what they wanted, a huge name.

Since: Sep 3, 2007
Posted on: July 24, 2011 3:07 pm

Blyleven on K list: "Clemens did it illegally"

And its funny how im bringing up the reasons why he should make it, statistically and you counter with numbers why he shouldnt like all star appearances. he made it in and rightfully so, the voters know plenty more about baseball than you and i and many watched him. retiring second all time in strikeouts and having almost three hundred wins for some bad teams is deserving imo. im a twins fan that didnt get to watch him because im younger, but if you look at the numbers, hes borderline hof to me and i dont see it as any shock he got it and i wouldve been bummed he missed out, but wouldve understood it.

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