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Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

Posted on: November 18, 2011 6:21 pm
Edited on: November 18, 2011 6:28 pm
 
News that the Red Sox are talking with Bobby Valentine appears to mean one of two things for the flailing Bostons, who now are the only major-league team without a manager:

1. There is a total lack of direction and the Red Sox don't even know what they want anymore.

2. Ownership has seized the steering wheel from rookie general manager Ben Cherington and now is controlling the process.

Either scenario is not good, a far cry from the well-oiled machine that won the World Series in 2004 and 2007.

The first scenario is evidenced by the dramatic contrast between Valentine and the initial group of candidates they interviewed: Dale Sveum, who was named Cubs manager Friday, Sandy Alomar Jr., Gene Lamont, Pete Mackanin and Torey Lovullo. Of that group, only Lamont has prior major-league managerial experience (Mackanin was the Pirates' interim manager in 2005 and the Reds' interim pilot in 2007). All of those guys veer toward the quiet and unassuming and, to an extent, could be controlled by management. Valentine is brash, has years of experience and is his own man.

The second scenario is evidenced by the fact that Sveum veered in the Cubs' direction in short order following a lunch with Red Sox ownership on Wednesday. He was the only candidate brought back for a second interview. Clearly things did not click between Sveum and Boston's ownership. What we don't know is whether Sveum told Boston the Cubs were his first choice or whether Red Sox ownership pulled the plug on him.

Either way, it speaks volumes.

Obviously, Cherington did not think experience was a necessity when this process started. Valentine was on the shelf, available, when Terry Francona was let go. If the Red Sox were that interested in Valentine, they could have had him in place weeks ago. Why waste time first-dating all those first-timers?

Unless ... they arrived at Valentine once ownership lost confidence in Cherington.

Now there are more questions than answers:

-- Has aggressive president Larry Lucchino been turned loose by co-owners John Henry and Tom Werner to do his thing after being kept away from baseball operations during Theo Epstein's last few years in Boston?

-- By hiring Sveum, did Theo and Co. sting the Red Sox enough that Lucchino and Co. looking to one-up the Cubs with a splashy hire?

-- With his outsized personality, how much fun would Valentine be managing the Red Sox mixing with the outsized egos of ownership, the outsized coverage of the local media and the outsized noise from the New England fans?

-- How does Cherington regain his balance after his legs were cut out from under him this week and command authority going forward? Is it even possible?

At this rate, the Red Sox may take until Valentine's Day to have a manager in place. Or maybe (Bobby) Valentine's Day will come early to Boston.
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Since: Apr 6, 2008
Posted on: November 20, 2011 11:31 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

Anybody but Valentine, that useless piece of human refuse that I used to watch in the mid 80's as the Mets third base coach.  He'd wander over to the stands as he assumed his position while the visiting team would take their infield practice prior to each inning.  Any underage teenage girl that payed him any mind would get the ridiculous, **it eating, ear to ear, grin as he would engage them while doffing his cap and running his hand through his much older than (lied about) head of hair.  His personality is completely phony and a turnoff as he's nothing more than a wolf in sheeps clothing.  Whom ever is fortunate enough to become the Sawwwwx next manager will be stepping into a situation where the team is talent-laden and primed for success along with being extra motivated after their embarassing self-implosion that garnered Joe Maddon the AL manager of the year.......another joke.  Obviously those that vote don't actually watch Joe Maddon manage games on a daily basis.  Bobby Valentine does not in any way shape or form deserve the opportunity that will come along with being named the manager of the Sawwwwx.  I'll be happy to interview and can assure that the Sawwwwx will finish no worse that they did in '10.  One person in America was calling for Terry Francona's head in April (me) ....and that person was right.......I am starting the crusade............."Me before Bobby V."

LOVE, YAZ


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Since: Mar 22, 2008
Posted on: November 20, 2011 10:37 pm
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Since: Dec 25, 2006
Posted on: November 20, 2011 8:40 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

The guy I would like the Red Sox to look at is Dodgers bench coach Trey Hillman. The guy was a former manager in Kansas City before being fired. the guy had success managing in Japan before going to Kansas City. There was a lot positive pub about this guy before he got that job. And lets face it Kansa city hasn't done anything the last 25 years. It's not like he had much to work with outside of Zack Greinke. I say let's see what the guy could do with a talented team at his disposal which are the Red Sox.



Since: Feb 14, 2011
Posted on: November 20, 2011 7:48 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

You'll love how he handles the game, but hate everything else.

That is well said and succinct, starblazer.  I agree with it completely.  His personality is all wrong for the Red Sox.  Wrong for other teams too, but especially bad for the Red Sox.

I can't even stand him as an announcer.  His 'know it all' attitude gets more and more grating the longer he rattles on.  He never shuts up.  He's annoying as hell.  Someone needs to throw a pie in his face.




Since: Jun 26, 2007
Posted on: November 20, 2011 7:12 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

I think Sveum was Ben's choice. He had to get approval but it didn't come in time or wasn't granted.



Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: November 20, 2011 6:13 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

I would love to see Willie Randolph manage the Sox.  



Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: November 20, 2011 5:28 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

So all these Bobby Valentine haters come from the idiots of CBS who post without logic or common sense,
bringing back my original statement that people who play in free fantasy leagues shouldn't be allowed to comment on anything because they have no clue what they are talking about. .
So playing in a pay league makes you smart? Whose is the illogical one here? That's one of the silliest sentences, I've ever read anywhere.

Have you ever watched Bobby V? As a Mets fan, I've seen him and heard him as a player and a manager. So unlike you, I actually have experience here and a point of reference. Get a clue.

. The Red Sox need an experienced manager to get those players egos in check
Geez, you simply don't get it do you? His ego is far greater than the palyers. Beckett and the veterans have done something Valentine never has and that's win. In fact, Beckett won world series with 2 different teams.

Their a bunch of clueless idiots who want to try and sound smart
Someone who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones.



Since: Dec 1, 2008
Posted on: November 20, 2011 4:48 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

Throw it against the wall and see if it sticks.

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Order all 3 for only $35 Mil. a savings of $3.7 Mil. 

 



Since: Jul 29, 2009
Posted on: November 20, 2011 3:51 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

This next season will be Can't miss TV in Boston with Bobby V. stiiring anger and hatred throughout the Red Sox clubhouse. The dude grates on people and it won't take long for the ex-ballroom dancer to get on the nerves of several Red Sox players with his self-serving act.



Since: Sep 27, 2006
Posted on: November 20, 2011 3:16 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

I love the idiots on here. They think the Cubs stole their manager from the Red Sox. They don't understand the Red Sox never offered him a contract. So without offering a contract it's hard to say the Red Sox lost out. What more than likely happened is management decided they needed a guy with actual experience as manager.

But these idiots saying the Red Sox will fail if they get Bobby Valentine are just that, idiots. They don't think at all and it's doubtful they're capable of using any form of logic or common sense.

Well here is logic and common sense. The Red Sox need an experienced manager to get those players egos in check. A guy with very little coaching experience is not gonna get those egos under control because a new manager without any true managerial experience is not gonna put his new job on the line thus is not gonna rock the boat. If they weren't listening to Terry Francona in the end they sure aren't gonna listen to a manager with limited managerial experience.

So all these Bobby Valentine haters come from the idiots of CBS who post without logic or common sense, bringing back my original statement that people who play in free fantasy leagues shouldn't be allowed to comment on anything because they have no clue what they are talking about. Their a bunch of clueless idiots who want to try and sound smart.


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