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Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

Posted on: November 18, 2011 6:21 pm
Edited on: November 18, 2011 6:28 pm
 
News that the Red Sox are talking with Bobby Valentine appears to mean one of two things for the flailing Bostons, who now are the only major-league team without a manager:

1. There is a total lack of direction and the Red Sox don't even know what they want anymore.

2. Ownership has seized the steering wheel from rookie general manager Ben Cherington and now is controlling the process.

Either scenario is not good, a far cry from the well-oiled machine that won the World Series in 2004 and 2007.

The first scenario is evidenced by the dramatic contrast between Valentine and the initial group of candidates they interviewed: Dale Sveum, who was named Cubs manager Friday, Sandy Alomar Jr., Gene Lamont, Pete Mackanin and Torey Lovullo. Of that group, only Lamont has prior major-league managerial experience (Mackanin was the Pirates' interim manager in 2005 and the Reds' interim pilot in 2007). All of those guys veer toward the quiet and unassuming and, to an extent, could be controlled by management. Valentine is brash, has years of experience and is his own man.

The second scenario is evidenced by the fact that Sveum veered in the Cubs' direction in short order following a lunch with Red Sox ownership on Wednesday. He was the only candidate brought back for a second interview. Clearly things did not click between Sveum and Boston's ownership. What we don't know is whether Sveum told Boston the Cubs were his first choice or whether Red Sox ownership pulled the plug on him.

Either way, it speaks volumes.

Obviously, Cherington did not think experience was a necessity when this process started. Valentine was on the shelf, available, when Terry Francona was let go. If the Red Sox were that interested in Valentine, they could have had him in place weeks ago. Why waste time first-dating all those first-timers?

Unless ... they arrived at Valentine once ownership lost confidence in Cherington.

Now there are more questions than answers:

-- Has aggressive president Larry Lucchino been turned loose by co-owners John Henry and Tom Werner to do his thing after being kept away from baseball operations during Theo Epstein's last few years in Boston?

-- By hiring Sveum, did Theo and Co. sting the Red Sox enough that Lucchino and Co. looking to one-up the Cubs with a splashy hire?

-- With his outsized personality, how much fun would Valentine be managing the Red Sox mixing with the outsized egos of ownership, the outsized coverage of the local media and the outsized noise from the New England fans?

-- How does Cherington regain his balance after his legs were cut out from under him this week and command authority going forward? Is it even possible?

At this rate, the Red Sox may take until Valentine's Day to have a manager in place. Or maybe (Bobby) Valentine's Day will come early to Boston.
Comments

Since: Jun 16, 2011
Posted on: November 20, 2011 2:32 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

Subracting Papelbon
Adding Bobby V.
Formula for failure lol!
 



Since: Sep 17, 2007
Posted on: November 20, 2011 1:53 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

What does that have to do with baseball? What does that have to do with the Red Sox? Nice to know though pal. Appreciate the sarcastic sentiment, however misguided. I guess when you have nothing positive to say about your team it's all about deflecting attention from the issues.
What does anyone from British Colombia have to do with commenting on the Red Sox unless they're bitter about their one sports team losing to a better one? Appreicate the backlash from a groupie of the Sedin Sisters.



Since: Dec 7, 2008
Posted on: November 20, 2011 1:46 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

XFactor09,  my only problem in listening to bobby v on sunday night baseball is that he might be a little to pc for me.      Congrats to both sides for getting a cba in place, who needs basketball anyway.   55



Since: Nov 16, 2011
Posted on: November 20, 2011 1:32 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

As long as they didn't hire Sveum , I am cool with whatever they do ...Sveum



Since: Oct 9, 2011
Posted on: November 20, 2011 1:23 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

Well yeah, all our igloo country clubs serve fried chicken and beer!



Since: Mar 30, 2010
Posted on: November 20, 2011 12:34 pm
 

BoSox to cellar in 2012

The only people doing a worse job this year running an organization lost control of their whole country in NorthWest Africa... and the people living there were a whole lot more forgiving than Boston fans will be when the Sox take sole posession of the East cellar and grip it like a bat tarred up by George Brett.



Since: May 18, 2009
Posted on: November 20, 2011 12:28 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

It'll be one and done for the V. Boo hoo on the Red Sox. So you don't get what you want. Big FREAKIN' DEAL!!! If anything, this is just deserts for the Sox. Part of the deadly duo(NY/Boston), stupid ass'. Driving up prices on athletes who don't DESERVE the kind of money that is being thrown around. Have Lackey, keep Crawford. Stupid ass skids if they didn't see that trainwreck coming. When was Lackey any good anyways? So lets put him up against the Monster. HELLO!!! SO they couldn't get John Farrell from the Blue Jays...nice try idiots, should have given him the job last year when you already had an idea you weren't going to re-sign Francona. Then they try and get Toronto's assistant GM to run the Sox. He declines because he likes what Toronto is doing more than what Boston currently has. Seems like there could be a shift of power in the AL East this coming year. As long as Toronto can get their bullpen figured they will surpass the Sox this coming season. Tell me MLB pitcher's aren't gonna be sweating some having to deal with Bautista and Lawrie next year(thanks milwaukee). Suck it Boston! 



Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: November 20, 2011 12:19 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

His kick butt attitude maybe a refresher for some of these country club boys
 Beer and fried chicken is country club? What country, Canada?


he's a great baseball mind and his personality may just be what this team needs
 The former is true, the latter isn't. Valentine's personality is his downfall. He's a first class arse.



Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: November 20, 2011 12:16 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

Red Sox MIGHT be able to scrape out a third place finish in the AL East next year.......but I dont know.....Jays and Orioles could make that difficult to achieve....
 They might also win the division which they had controlled for much of the year before injuries destroyed them. Have you seen their talent? Let's take a look...

C-Saltamachia

1B- A.Gonzalez

2B- Pedroia

SS- Scutaro

3B- Youklis

LF-Crawford

CF- Ellsbury

RF- ?(Beltran)

DH- ?(Ortiz)

SP- Beckett

SP- Lester

SP-Buchholtz

SP- DiceK/Miller/SP- ?Wakefield

SP- Darvish/Capuano/Wilson?

Closer- Bard


They have All-Stars at: 1B, 2B, 3B, LF and CF. Their top 3 matches up with anyone and Bard though probably starting his first year as the closer has immense talent. That team talent-wise matches up with anyone in MLB.

You think Crawford is going to put the same paltry numbers? Odds are he'll bounce back big-time. They'll have Buchholtz back and one can argue his injury doomed the Red Sox. Ellsbury, along with Kemp are the best the best all-around CF's in baseball. He might even be the AL MVP by next week. Gonzalez is a beast. Pedroia is the most intense player in the sport and wills them to win games. Youklis is an RBI machine. Scutaro is a dependable middle-infielder and Salty is just starting to come into his own.

Odds are they'll also add a starter9or 2) which could be Darvish, Capuano or even Wilson. Odds are Carlos Beltran may be added to play RF. DH is up-in-the-air, but Ortiz is probable to return. They may even add infield depth.

The Red Sox as is are a very talented team that needs focus and direction. That's what Miller was getting at. This team as of now has the former, but lacks the latter. They have time to address the latter. How they do will determine where they finish next year.



Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: November 20, 2011 11:54 am
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

The Red Sox should sign CJ Wilson and Yu Darvish
 CJ Wilson is the left-handed AJ Burnett. I wouldn't sign him long-term. Btw, has anyone ever noticed his resemblance to Keith Stone from the Keystone Beer commercials?

Yu Darvish is an interesting pitcher. He looked good in the joke WBC, but who knows? You are taking a risk with any Japanese pitcher because the leagues are so different. However, Boston has a terrific top 3(Beckett, Lester, Buchholtz), so they can take a risk on him. Yu won't cost as much as Wilson and may have more of an upside. Btw, Yu was the creator of the Xia dynasty. ;-


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