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Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

Posted on: November 18, 2011 6:21 pm
Edited on: November 18, 2011 6:28 pm
 
News that the Red Sox are talking with Bobby Valentine appears to mean one of two things for the flailing Bostons, who now are the only major-league team without a manager:

1. There is a total lack of direction and the Red Sox don't even know what they want anymore.

2. Ownership has seized the steering wheel from rookie general manager Ben Cherington and now is controlling the process.

Either scenario is not good, a far cry from the well-oiled machine that won the World Series in 2004 and 2007.

The first scenario is evidenced by the dramatic contrast between Valentine and the initial group of candidates they interviewed: Dale Sveum, who was named Cubs manager Friday, Sandy Alomar Jr., Gene Lamont, Pete Mackanin and Torey Lovullo. Of that group, only Lamont has prior major-league managerial experience (Mackanin was the Pirates' interim manager in 2005 and the Reds' interim pilot in 2007). All of those guys veer toward the quiet and unassuming and, to an extent, could be controlled by management. Valentine is brash, has years of experience and is his own man.

The second scenario is evidenced by the fact that Sveum veered in the Cubs' direction in short order following a lunch with Red Sox ownership on Wednesday. He was the only candidate brought back for a second interview. Clearly things did not click between Sveum and Boston's ownership. What we don't know is whether Sveum told Boston the Cubs were his first choice or whether Red Sox ownership pulled the plug on him.

Either way, it speaks volumes.

Obviously, Cherington did not think experience was a necessity when this process started. Valentine was on the shelf, available, when Terry Francona was let go. If the Red Sox were that interested in Valentine, they could have had him in place weeks ago. Why waste time first-dating all those first-timers?

Unless ... they arrived at Valentine once ownership lost confidence in Cherington.

Now there are more questions than answers:

-- Has aggressive president Larry Lucchino been turned loose by co-owners John Henry and Tom Werner to do his thing after being kept away from baseball operations during Theo Epstein's last few years in Boston?

-- By hiring Sveum, did Theo and Co. sting the Red Sox enough that Lucchino and Co. looking to one-up the Cubs with a splashy hire?

-- With his outsized personality, how much fun would Valentine be managing the Red Sox mixing with the outsized egos of ownership, the outsized coverage of the local media and the outsized noise from the New England fans?

-- How does Cherington regain his balance after his legs were cut out from under him this week and command authority going forward? Is it even possible?

At this rate, the Red Sox may take until Valentine's Day to have a manager in place. Or maybe (Bobby) Valentine's Day will come early to Boston.
Comments

Since: Apr 15, 2008
Posted on: November 20, 2011 6:26 am
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

oo bad about what happened in Vancouver last June. My heart bleeds. :-(
What does that have to do with baseball? What does that have to do with the Red Sox? Nice to know though pal. Appreciate the sarcastic sentiment, however misguided. I guess when you have nothing positive to say about your team it's all about deflecting attention from the issues. 

 Noles .. ur team is the Jays .. aka the forever 4th place team ... SHHHHHHHHHH
Your team had one of the most epic & hilarious collapses in the history of sports. They drank beer, ate chicken wings, played some videos games, grabbed big paychecks off over priced Fenway seats , all the while they were failing & didn't seem to care. Like one commenter said "Occupy Fenway!!". 



Since: Jan 7, 2009
Posted on: November 20, 2011 12:29 am
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

Flailing Boston? The only thing wrong with the Red Sox, is keeping their starters healthy and now finding a closer. That offense will put up big numbers like they always do, they need to be just a little more consistant. No more 4 game series, where they score 12 runs the first two games, and then score 2 and 1 in the next two.
If they can get Lester and Bucholtz healthy for the year, they might need a #3 or #4 starter. Getting a first rate Closer might be more difficult, but not impossible. The one change I might make is getting a right handed power bat. It seems that they are a little too left-handed.
They have a deep, talented farm system. Getting and keeping players should not be a problem.



Since: Sep 17, 2007
Posted on: November 19, 2011 11:05 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

LOL.. I take satisfaction in seeing these Sox fans whine , cry and b!tch like little girls. How didn't firing the manager, getting rid of the GM who brought you success not make it clue in to your heads your franchise is in trouble?
Too bad about what happened in Vancouver last June. My heart bleeds. :-(



Since: Feb 10, 2007
Posted on: November 19, 2011 10:14 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

Noles .. ur team is the Jays .. aka the forever 4th place team ... SHHHHHHHHHH



Since: Feb 10, 2007
Posted on: November 19, 2011 10:11 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

A monkey could manage the Red Sox ... oh wait, Francoma already did.   Cherington is a joke .. taking this long to install an obvious stop-gap 1 YEAR manager is ridiculous.  Get on with it and start adding depth to PITCHING before all the decent arms get snatched up already. 



Since: Oct 3, 2011
Posted on: November 19, 2011 9:38 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

Anything that gets Bobby V off the air is good.  He makes Joe Morgan seem refereshing.  Good luck gettig the job in Beantown Bobby.  A match made in heaven, or hell - you be the judge.



Since: Apr 15, 2008
Posted on: November 19, 2011 9:23 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

LOL.. I take satisfaction in seeing these Sox fans whine , cry and b!tch like little girls. How didn't firing the manager, getting rid of the GM who brought you success not make it clue in to your heads your franchise is in trouble? Sox fans are like we will sign this guy, we will sign this guy... what are you going to do? win every game 12-11? Sign Curt Schilling? Pedro Martinez?

That's right, it's not 2004. Good run, but it is over. Even with a successful season, no chance you win a world series anytime soon. 



Since: Jun 24, 2008
Posted on: November 19, 2011 8:08 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

Directionless?  Give me a break.  They interviewed their first wave of candidates and they didn't like any of them. Good for them for not panicking just to please the likes of you.  They hired Francona in December.  They're on the same timetable here.  And, Valentine, btw, would be perfect for this veteran team that can win now.  And what gives you the idea that Lucchino is some kind of noodlehead?  They guy's had success after success.  And didn't you notice that when the Sox gave Theo MORE control of the organization they started making a lot more mistakes?

Get a clue.



Since: Jan 5, 2010
Posted on: November 19, 2011 7:38 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

Ya. We are always dreaming. We should be looking to our old players for leadership. I think Bill Buckner would make a great manager for the Boston RedSox. He was an awesome player and knows the game. Or how about Jim Rice for manager.



Since: Dec 15, 2010
Posted on: November 19, 2011 7:05 pm
 

Red Sox look directionless in talking Bobby V

Whats up Boston? Yall still lost? Even the Cubbies found a new manager.Yall cant even agree on compensation for Theo.An old song by Zeepp comes to mind when I think of yall, the title anyway...DAZED AND CONFUSED.


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