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New Marlin Bell: We can beat the Phillies

Posted on: December 5, 2011 5:30 pm
Edited on: December 6, 2011 12:39 am
 
DALLAS -- Heath Bell, done. Jose Reyes, done.

Now owner Jeffrey Loria says the Marlins can add more, and you'd better believe it. The Marlins met twice with the agent for Albert Pujols on Monday, sources said late Monday night, boosting its nine-year offer in the process and giving the slugger even more to think about.

No decision was imminent as midnight approached, and one person with knowledge of the talks said they likely will play out more before a decision is reached. The Cardinals also met with Pujols' agent, Dan Lozano, on Monday, and so did the Cubs.

But it is the Marlins who have stolen the show early in these winter meetings, and it is their efforts for Pujols that have electrified the lobby here at the Hilton Anatole.

Pujols in the same lineup with Reyes, Hanley Ramirez, Mike Stanton and others?

"That would be great," Bell told CBSSports.com Monday. "I'm telling you right now, we definitely can win the NL East, even with just Reyes."

Imagine that. Even with just Reyes.

As in, gee, even if we don't sign Pujols, we've got an embarrassment of riches.

"I think we can win the division right now," Bell continued. "The Phillies, I think we can beat 'em.

"Ryan Howard is hurt. They might not be getting Jimmy Rollins back."

It is a tilting landscape and a bizarro world. As Rollins continued to frost out on the free agent market Thursday, sources said the Phillies were discussing free agent third baseman Aramis Ramirez. Then they'd trade Placido Polanco, and maybe get a shortstop elsewhere

Whatever on the Phillies front. The Marlins are charging hard toward their new stadium and toward the top of the NL East.

Owner Jeffrey Loria would not speak directly about Pujols on Monday, but not because that's some crazy rumor.

"I don't want to talk about Albert," Loria said. "That's not the purpose of today. This is Heath's day."

Tuesday or, more likely, Wednesday will be Reyes' day, the day the Marlins introduce him formally here at the winter meetings.

Meantime, they're working hard toward another addition. The Pujols talks are serious. So are those for a starting pitcher. One person close to the Marlins suggested Monday night that free agent left-hander Mark Buehrle actually is above Pujols on the club's wish list. Loria has told people that the club's payroll, roughly $45 million last year, could zoom to the $100 million range in 2012.

When this winter started, that seemed like a bad joke.

Nobody, and I mean nobody, thinks the Marlins aren't serious now.

"I'm a serious guy," Loria said. "I don't know how many times I have to tell you guys that."

You cannot even begin to describe how different life is for the Marlins, whose executives arrived here about midday Monday. These are the guys -- Loria, president of baseball operations Larry Beinfest, general manager Michael Hill -- who sold their wares on the streets of the winter meetings in years past because they were so poor.

These are the guys who traded Miguel Cabrera to Detroit, Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell to Boston. ...

"We had a plan a few years ago," Loria said. "That's the reason why Mike Stanton is here, the reason why Logan Morrison is here, the reason why Hanley Ramirez is here."

As Beinfest says, the Marlins plan always was to compete, they just had to find extra creative ways to do so.

Now?

"It's fun," Beinfest kept saying Monday. "It's fun to come in here and sign an All-Star closer. There's nothing wrong with that."

In a perfect Marlins world, they'd leave Dallas on Thursday with Bell, Reyes and Pujols or Buehrle all done. But as quickly as they're moving, there's still some uncertainty.

"We'd love to get things done as fast as possible and achieve our goals," Beinfest said. "But we don't control everything. It takes two to tango."

Sure does. But the Marlins have entered the free agent market with swagger and are causing some folks to dance as fast as they can. Cardinals owner Bill DeWitt said earlier Monday that he remains "hopeful" of signing Pujols.

"We're making every effort" to sign him, DeWitt said.

Well if they're serious, the Cardinals had better get moving. Because the Marlins are as serious as a spring breaker hell-bent on ravaging the Fort Lauderdale nightlife.

"We want to do more," Beinfest said. "We'd like to do more. There are some things we'd like to achieve.

"We're still in conversation with free agents and with clubs."

Every door is open, including trades -- with players both going and coming. Loria mostly remained tight-lipped regarding diva superstar Hanley Ramirez, who now must shove over to third base to make room for Reyes.

"Hanley is a super-professional," Loria said. "That's all I will say. We will work with him, make everything comfortable for him."

You bet they will. They're making everything comfortable for Bell, Reyes and others as they go. Loria anticipates attendance bumping up to somewhere between 2.8 and 3 million in 2012. They drew an NL-low 1.5 million last year.

They win like Bell says they can, maybe there really, finally, will be a buzz around the Marlins.

Said Beinfest: "It's time for this organization to play October baseball."



Comments

Since: Oct 7, 2010
Posted on: December 6, 2011 11:48 am
 

New Marlin Bell: We can beat the Phillies

Like I stated last night, it's a pipe dream! A new stadium, some free agents does not buy you sucess. There was some Jag reposting comments like he is sticking up for his little brother, thats not gonna help ya to October. There are people with all the statistics in the world that can recall them in an instant, thats not gonna help ya in October. I swear Miller is writting this article to get a christmas bonus. Remeber last year when a self proclaimed King created his court on T.V. that didn't buy a championship. You have to invest in people who want to mentor and build a team. A few names only last as long as their contracts these days! Yeah the Cubs have sucked for 103 YEARS! so what I still love them and your all entitled to your own pipe dream! We just bought a front office dream team, but I live in reality and I don't see October in Chicago. So again Really December, a new stadium, Bell, and Reyes and some potentials and you see October? Stop letting these guys think you really like what they write and just love your teams and sports! make them write real stories.



Since: Nov 15, 2011
Posted on: December 6, 2011 11:44 am
 

New Marlin Bell: We can beat the Phillies

And in two years there will be another fireside sale in Miami !!!!



Since: Jan 13, 2008
Posted on: December 6, 2011 10:57 am
 

New Marlin Bell: We can beat the Phillies

Everyone just shut up no one cares about your opinions if Pujols whats to come he will come and theres nothing you can do about it.



Since: Jul 10, 2007
Posted on: December 6, 2011 10:52 am
 

New Marlin Bell: We can beat the Phillies

Press Conference...Press Conference...Press Conference

"I the Machine, have made me decision, me taking my talents to Miami"



Since: May 19, 2011
Posted on: December 6, 2011 10:51 am
 

New Marlin Bell: We can beat the Phillies

sorry for the multiple postings, my computer kept saying I wasn't connected when clearly by my repeat posts, I was.



Since: May 19, 2011
Posted on: December 6, 2011 10:50 am
 

New Marlin Bell: We can beat the Phillies

Weak, lame, old, tired...... I can go on and on about the Santa Claus argument .... that was like 20 years ago and it was a few drunk morons.  That does not define a fan base or have any relevance whatsoever.  When someone says that about Philly it can mean a couple of things..... (1) You are totally unoriginal, (2) you have absolutely no grasp on philly fans and what they are about (despite where you claim to live), (3) you are a closet philly fan (4) you are just a curmudgeon with nothing to offer to the conversation.  This is further proven by your choice to use ALL CAPS FOR YOUR WEAK WEAK POST.  And since you think you have enlightened us all with that garbage statement let me use your logic and apply it elsewhere.  I guess all LA Dodgers fans are thugs and gang members being that there has been both a stabbing murder and a father beaten into a coma within the past 5 years at the hand of Dodgers fans.  I guess also one should expect to get shot if the 49ers and raiders are playing and you are attending the game since there were two shootings at a preseason game (If I were you that previous statement also woulda been in all CAPS).  All Cleveland Brown fans also throw beer bottles at the refs everytime they lose, according to your rational.  I guess when Frank Francisco threw a chair into the stands a few years back, he was just doing what all Rangers players do ..... kinda like if you go to the Palace at Auburn Hills you are most likely going to be involved in a brawl with whatever teams are on the court.  Yo dude .... thanks for wasting everyone's time with that meaningless post.  Go back over the bridge to the armpit of America(Jersey), and since you are from New Jersey, you must be a weight-lifting, fist pumping, club going, ignorant guido (Again just using your logic) so enjoy that. 



Since: May 7, 2011
Posted on: December 6, 2011 10:44 am
 

New Marlin Bell: We can beat the Phillies

With all due respect Heath Bell, The Cardinals already did.



If I were Albert Pujols, I would stick with a team not under the threat of Federal Indictment.
Good point.  Albert sin't stupid.  He's just ramping up the contract stakes like Kevin Brown did to The Dodgers years ago.


Scott Boras Lives!



Since: May 19, 2011
Posted on: December 6, 2011 10:44 am
 

New Marlin Bell: We can beat the Phillies

Weak, lame, old, tired...... I can go on and on about the Santa Claus argument .... that was like 20 years ago and it was a few drunk morons.  That does not define a fan base or have any relevance whatsoever.  When someone says that about Philly it can mean a couple of things..... (1) You are totally unoriginal, (2) you have absolutely no grasp on philly fans and what they are about (despite where you claim to live), (3) you are a closet philly fan (4) you are just a curmudgeon with nothing to offer to the conversation.  This is further proven by your choice to use ALL CAPS FOR YOUR WEAK WEAK POST.  And since you think you have enlightened us all with that garbage statement let me use your logic and apply it elsewhere.  I guess all LA Dodgers fans are thugs and gang members being that there has been both a stabbing murder and a father beaten into a coma within the past 5 years at the hand of Dodgers fans.  I guess also one should expect to get shot if the 49ers and raiders are playing and you are attending the game since there were to shootings at a preseason game (If I were you that previous statement also woulda been in all CAPS).  All Cleveland Brown fans also throw beer bottles at the refs everytime they lose, according to your rational.  I guess when Frank Francisco threw a chair into the stands a few years back, he was just doing what all Rangers players do ..... kinda like if you go to the Palace at Auburn Hills you are most likely going to be involved in a brawl with whatever are teams are on the court.  Yo dude .... thanks for wasting everyone's time with that meaningless post.  Go back over the bridge to the armpit of America(Jersey), and since you are from New Jersey, you must be a weight-lifting, fist pumping, club going, ignorant guido (Again just using your logic) so enjoy that.




Since: May 19, 2011
Posted on: December 6, 2011 10:44 am
 

New Marlin Bell: We can beat the Phillies

Weak, lame, old, tired...... I can go on and on about the Santa Claus argument .... that was like 20 years ago and it was a few drunk morons.  That does not define a fan base or have any relevance whatsoever.  When someone says that about Philly it can mean a couple of things..... (1) You are totally unoriginal, (2) you have absolutely no grasp on philly fans and what they are about (despite where you claim to live), (3) you are a closet philly fan (4) you are just a curmudgeon with nothing to offer to the conversation.  This is further proven by your choice to use ALL CAPS FOR YOUR WEAK WEAK POST.  And since you think you have enlightened us all with that garbage statement let me use your logic and apply it elsewhere.  I guess all LA Dodgers fans are thugs and gang members being that there has been both a stabbing murder and a father beaten into a coma within the past 5 years at the hand of Dodgers fans.  I guess also one should expect to get shot if the 49ers and raiders are playing and you are attending the game since there were to shootings at a preseason game (If I were you that previous statement also woulda been in all CAPS).  All Cleveland Brown fans also throw beer bottles at the refs everytime they lose, according to your rational.  I guess when Frank Francisco threw a chair into the stands a few years back, he was just doing what all Rangers players do ..... kinda like if you go to the Palace at Auburn Hills you are most likely going to be involved in a brawl with whatever are teams are on the court.  Yo dude .... thanks for wasting everyone's time with that meaningless post.  Go back over the bridge to the armpit of America(Jersey), and since you are from New Jersey, you must be a weight-lifting, fist pumping, club going, ignorant guido (Again just using your logic) so enjoy that. 



Since: Jun 8, 2010
Posted on: December 6, 2011 10:32 am
 

New Marlin Bell: We can beat the Phillies

So when the Feds finish their bribery and racketeering investigation on the payoffs to get the Citizens to pay for 75% of the Miami Marlins Stadium, who get's custody of the team?


If I were Albert Pujols, I would stick with a team not under the threat of Federal Indictment.   Would the Marlins crash and burn like the Dodgers last season?  I'll bet Matt Kemp would have been MVP if he wasn't wearing Dodger Blue last season.


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